there's variables that mean it's not an identical comparison, but it's still indicative of exceptional performance

the likes of which I'm not used to getting from the 5th defenseman taken in the draft. I think Philly got lucky with what other teams ahead of them in the draft chose to go after when they passed on York
- Coburns_Nose

Don't get me wrong, I'm excited about York too.

He could end up being the Thomas Chabot of that draft. We'll see.

dont put me down for anything Peter dikk.
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Relax Debbie. I didn’t but sounds like you’re a little insecure.

Is beer, wine, whiskey or whatever your adult beverage of choice is considered an essential? Asking for friend.
- MJL

Weed most definitely is

Of all the US collegiate hockey conferences in the NCAA I level, which one is the strongest (in terms of producing the most NHL players)?

And how does the level of play compare to the Canadian juniors?

I was just wondering what determines a players choice to go to one place or the other. I assume most collegiate players are American, so nationality has something to do with it. But a guy like Makar chose to come to UMass, surely he could have played for any junior team he wanted?

Relax Debbie. I didn’t but sounds like you’re a little insecure.
- Peter Richards

ok peter dikk. Very insecure

Of all the US collegiate hockey conferences in the NCAA I level, which one is the strongest (in terms of producing the most NHL players)?

And how does the level of play compare to the Canadian juniors?

I was just wondering what determines a players choice to go to one place or the other. I assume most collegiate players are American, so nationality has something to do with it. But a guy like Makar chose to come to UMass, surely he could have played for any junior team he wanted?
- PT21

NCAA has been improving for years. Hard que at ion to answer over why some choose one over the other. A lot of players on good programs in college are from other countries and a lot do not start until they are 20.

I guess it depends on the individual and what they want. College plays a different schedule (less games) than a lot of other programs. But recent years more univ have been expanding their programs as hockey is becoming more popular and offered in more areas than say 20 years ago even.

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Of all the US collegiate hockey conferences in the NCAA I level, which one is the strongest (in terms of producing the most NHL players)?

And how does the level of play compare to the Canadian juniors?

I was just wondering what determines a players choice to go to one place or the other. I assume most collegiate players are American, so nationality has something to do with it. But a guy like Makar chose to come to UMass, surely he could have played for any junior team he wanted?
- PT21

i would assume the ones near Minnesota and the northeast would be the best

Of all the US collegiate hockey conferences in the NCAA I level, which one is the strongest (in terms of producing the most NHL players)?

And how does the level of play compare to the Canadian juniors?

I was just wondering what determines a players choice to go to one place or the other. I assume most collegiate players are American, so nationality has something to do with it. But a guy like Makar chose to come to UMass, surely he could have played for any junior team he wanted?
- PT21

Being a scholar you should know this answer.

Thanks for the verification deb
- Peter Richards

my man peter dikk.

Of all the US collegiate hockey conferences in the NCAA I level, which one is the strongest (in terms of producing the most NHL players)?

And how does the level of play compare to the Canadian juniors?

I was just wondering what determines a players choice to go to one place or the other. I assume most collegiate players are American, so nationality has something to do with it. But a guy like Makar chose to come to UMass, surely he could have played for any junior team he wanted?
- PT21

Hockey East and Big Ten seem to churn out the most NHL'ers. UND too.

Listened to a lot of player interviews (Spittin' Chiclets) and the main draw (whether a player is Canadian or American) is the education component of the NCAA. Those guys want to be able to either finish their degree or have the option to go back and quickly finish it after they're done playing. There's also kids who grew up steeped in regional NCAA hockey fandom, and that will influence their decision as well.

For kids who go the major junior route, the main draw is having the quickest, most visible, most direct route to the pros. And... getting paid to play hockey right away. They'll play a more pro schedule and pro environment than NCAA players, which some feel prepares them better for the transition to the next level.

There are guys like Duncan Keith who started out on the college route, then pulled a u-turn when they realized that the college experience (aka classes, lol) wasn't for them.

Being a scholar you should know this answer.
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And what does this have to do with being a scholar?

And what does this have to do with being a scholar?
- PT21

you're supposed to know everything or act like you know everything like mjl

And what does this have to do with being a scholar?
- PT21

You would know the answer to such a trivial question.

Hockey East and Big Ten seem to churn out the most NHL'ers. UND too.

Listened to a lot of player interviews (Spittin' Chiclets) and the main draw (whether a player is Canadian or American) is the education component of the NCAA. Those guys want to be able to either finish their degree or have the option to go back and quickly finish it after they're done playing. There's also kids who grew up steeped in regional NCAA hockey fandom, and that will influence their decision as well.

For kids who go the major junior route, the main draw is having the quickest, most visible, most direct route to the pros. And... getting paid to play hockey right away. They'll play a more pro schedule and pro environment than NCAA players, which some feel prepares them better for the transition to the next level.

There are guys like Duncan Keith who started out on the college route, then pulled a u-turn when they realized that the college experience (aka classes, lol) wasn't for them.
- Tomahawk

Thanks.

Not just Duncan Keith. J Roenick apparently left for the Q after he attended the first day of classes and the teacher assigned a binder worth of readings or something like that.

I am comparing it to the development route for NFL players, where no one thinks about the quality of education (the College factor is a given, of course), and so is generally the scholarship. Its all about the role you have been promised and the nature of the program.

I would have thought top players would care about one thing only: what maximizes their chances to be showcased for NHL. That's going to be their career after all.

You would know the answer to such a trivial question.
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Get lost and go back to insulting people's wives and girlfriends over PM.

(frank)ing moron.

Thanks.

Not just Duncan Keith. J Roenick apparently left for the Q after he attended the first day of classes and the teacher assigned a binder worth of readings or something like that.

I am comparing it to the development route for NFL players, where no one thinks about the quality of education (the College factor is a given, of course), and so is generally the scholarship. Its all about the role you have been promised and the nature of the program.

I would have thought top players would care about one thing only: what maximizes their chances to be showcased for NHL. That's going to be their career after all.
- PT21

Based on what exactly? As I can tell you that is 100% false.

Thanks.

Not just Duncan Keith. J Roenick apparently left for the Q after he attended the first day of classes and the teacher assigned a binder worth of readings or something like that.

I am comparing it to the development route for NFL players, where no one thinks about the quality of education (the College factor is a given, of course), and so is generally the scholarship. Its all about the role you have been promised and the nature of the program.

I would have thought top players would care about one thing only: what maximizes their chances to be showcased for NHL. That's going to be their career after all.
- PT21

There are just so many different routes you can take to get the NHL that there just isn't a single best way to showcase yourself. Being an international game with so many different feeder systems makes it hard to compare against the NFL.

There are just so many different routes you can take to get the NHL that there just isn't a single best way to showcase yourself. Being an international game with so many different feeder systems makes it hard to compare against the NFL.
- Tomahawk

Yes, that's what I thought. The feeder systems are a lot less high profile and lot less well developed than the NFL/NBA.

Based on what exactly? As I can tell you that is 100% false.
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There are lots of academically average football powerhouses that churn out NFL players. Oklahoma, Clemson, Miss, Auburn, etc.

There are plenty of very good academic institutions that have decent football programs but not elite: UCLA, UC Berkeley, UT Austin, and so on.

Its true that technically you have to have higher academic records to get in to the latter category, those are usually relaxed - with a wink wink. Happens in the Ivy League too. I can tell you twenty horror stories of the top of my head. Though legacy admissions are far worse.

Anyway, you don't hear too many NFL blue chip recruits turning down 'Bama to go to Berkeley, do you?

Does big 10 network usually show big 10 hockey games? Michigan in particular?
- SMS4016

Where I live Michigan hockey is on the Fox Sports Network. They are on against Wisconsin tonight 7:00.

Love the hextall shout out. I think he also holds the team record for most playoff wins as well and of course most goals as a tender. .
- Hextall271

Does Hexy hold the team record for most PIMs and fighting majors for a goalie?

There are lots of academically average football powerhouses that churn out NFL players. Oklahoma, Clemson, Miss, Auburn, etc.

There are plenty of very good academic institutions that have decent football programs but not elite: UCLA, UC Berkeley, UT Austin, and so on.

Its true that technically you have to have higher academic records to get in to the latter category, those are usually relaxed - with a wink wink. Happens in the Ivy League too. I can tell you twenty horror stories of the top of my head. Though legacy admissions are far worse.

Anyway, you don't hear too many NFL blue chip recruits turning down 'Bama to go to Berkeley, do you?
- PT21

wasn't what you said though.

Yes, that's what I thought. The feeder systems are a lot less high profile and lot less well developed than the NFL/NBA.
- PT21

Nah. It's just that all the various paths are actually viable. USHL/Junior A -> NCAA -> NHL is just as viable as Major Junior. European club team systems are just as viable as NA junior/college, etc. Auston Matthews went over to Switzerland before the draft, instead of playing college or WHL, and that was fine too.

There's really only one best path to the NFL. Not many players could avoid playing college ball. NBA is a bit more international, but still not as many options as hockey.