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NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 8:21 PM ET
I may see it?! You literally talked about it as the most likely outcome for weeks while we all told you it was very unlikely. I can abide by a lot of things, but not being accountable is not one of them. All the best to you
- neem55


It was and still is more viable then trade cap dumps that's all I am accountable on. I have long recognized for weeks that it wasn't going to happen. Though moving on and adapting to changing circumstances doesn't seem to satisfy your judgement.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 8:30 PM ET
Somebody asked, what I’m sure they felt was, an important question. Myse signed his deal one year ago. He’s only been a Canuck one year. He has what, five more years to go? My point is, Schmitty is now in the same spot as Myers one year ago, so how long until knuckleheads want to start buying him out?

Also, Northy, not calling you a knucklehead, I never wanted to sign Myers in the first place, but I wouldn’t waste $ buying him out.

- 1970vintage

8yrs is the big reason why it’s not remotely happening
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 8:36 PM ET
Why's that? We can assume they weren't allowed to hold onto salary. I didn't push it for months either, I suggested it and moved on. Something you aren't capable of.
- golfingsince



Fair enough. I don't begrudge you that but I too have moved on from then as well. Perhaps you are confused by some others that love to dwell on it.

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:37 PM ET
Thanks Carol. Would your contact know if SKA is apt to take on transfer agreements? Like would they part with Podz, post WJC, for a couple waived vets? As in on loan all paid for by the Canucks?
- NuckUp



That would be awesome, they probably wouldn't want Erikson though
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 8:44 PM ET
I have taken this from another rumor site, I approve of the content in this article, hopefully other will enjoy it as well.

Larry Brooks of the NY Post: The NHL is hoping to have the players defer 13 percent of their 2020-21 salary according to multiple sources. The players agreed to a 10 percent deferral back when they agreed on the six-year CBA extension back in July. Escrow is capped at 20 percent.


The 10 percent deferral is to be paid back without interest in October of 2022, 2023, and 2024.

Prorating salaries can’t happen according to the CBA Memo of Understanding but it does state: “The parties also agree to continue discussions regarding the possibility of allowing Players and Clubs to negotiate additional deferrals on a case-by-case basis.”

If the players agreed, their pay would be 61.6 percent guaranteed for next season with 23 percent eventually paid back.

The league is still hoping to start the season on January 1st, with 14 days of training camp and playing between 48 and 60 games. Teams that didn’t make the RTP get some extra time for camp

Puck Pedia: “With the 10% salary deferral agreed to for 20-21, 8 players cannot defer 10% of comp even if 100% of their base salary is deferred, due to large signing bonuses already received: Matthews, Marner, Josi, McDavid, Aho, Panarin, Tavares, Muzzin


Total deferral shortfall is $3.56M”

- Reubenkincade


So the pro rating salary reports are misleading. The addition to the retention agreement, of the summer CBA, is deferring more salary to later years. Seems legit to accept given revenue streams will go down ad playing costs up. Probably more so by needing hybrid bubbles to start.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 18 @ 8:50 PM ET
Pretty nice trophy case

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:52 PM ET
I don't know which one poster you're speaking of. However, if it's any poster that has ridiculous takes and defends them to their bitter end than I'd say they've brought that upon themselves.
- golfingsince




It's either that or everyone ignored that poster and that would also hurt my feelings.

I don't mind you guys following me around, hounding my ridiculous takes!

Like this one, BC is now in a two week lockdown from the Wuhan flu because of boomers and millennials, as an X'r I'm tired of following the rules while those older and younger then me continue to have coffee and ruin the world for me...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 8:57 PM ET
If the league implemented compliance buyouts to help navigate the flat cap but each team could only have 1, would you buy out Eriksson or Myers?
- NorthNuck


Is this even a real question? Buy out green just to appease Makita...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:05 PM ET
I have taken this from another rumor site, I approve of the content in this article, hopefully other will enjoy it as well.

Larry Brooks of the NY Post: The NHL is hoping to have the players defer 13 percent of their 2020-21 salary according to multiple sources. The players agreed to a 10 percent deferral back when they agreed on the six-year CBA extension back in July. Escrow is capped at 20 percent.


The 10 percent deferral is to be paid back without interest in October of 2022, 2023, and 2024.

Prorating salaries can’t happen according to the CBA Memo of Understanding but it does state: “The parties also agree to continue discussions regarding the possibility of allowing Players and Clubs to negotiate additional deferrals on a case-by-case basis.”

If the players agreed, their pay would be 61.6 percent guaranteed for next season with 23 percent eventually paid back.

The league is still hoping to start the season on January 1st, with 14 days of training camp and playing between 48 and 60 games. Teams that didn’t make the RTP get some extra time for camp

Puck Pedia: “With the 10% salary deferral agreed to for 20-21, 8 players cannot defer 10% of comp even if 100% of their base salary is deferred, due to large signing bonuses already received: Matthews, Marner, Josi, McDavid, Aho, Panarin, Tavares, Muzzin


Total deferral shortfall is $3.56M”

- Reubenkincade


Instead of posting links, just copy and paste different takes as your own.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:07 PM ET
It was and still is more viable then trade cap dumps that's all I am accountable on. I have long recognized for weeks that it wasn't going to happen. Though moving on and adapting to changing circumstances doesn't seem to satisfy your judgement.
- NuckUp



So.... are you finally admitting you're wrong about them forcing Erikson and Sven to MTA? I mean, it's a month to late, but like a period to end a life sentence, better a month late then never.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 9:14 PM ET
mic drop

- dbot

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 18 @ 9:22 PM ET

- NuckUp


NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 9:23 PM ET

So.... are you finally admitting you're wrong about them forcing Erikson and Sven to MTA? I mean, it's a month to late, but like a period to end a life sentence, better a month late then never.


- Pres.cup



I'm going to give you a chance because I think you are a victim of drinking Marwood's koolaide. Sven was never mentioned. LE MTA, only POSSIBLE, if we had normal times with a working Utica. Again, it was a counter to trade dump speculation. Which at the time looked more improbable because of the flat cap. JB has no leverage now and have been saying it for several weeks. All he can do is waive LE to be compliant. Is what it is though we might call him Taxi squad Louie hopefully soon.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 18 @ 9:23 PM ET
Fkn Gong Show.



Hope this doesnt break the COC....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 18 @ 9:24 PM ET
I ain't afraid to admit it. I love watching christmas hallmark movies.

Granted I don't know how much I watch, they mostly play in the background but they play!
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 18 @ 9:27 PM ET
Without fans in the seats, I just don't see how the NHL can have a season with very little revenue.
The league has an existing deal in the US, that was for 2 billion for 10 years, so let's say 200 million per, the sports net deal is 300-500million per season, so say 400 million this year, that makes TV deals worth 600 million, with some small regional TV deals
I would think some advertising dollars are available so say another 100 million, that makes 700 million in revenue coming in.
If that is divided by the 31 teams, that is less than 23 million per team, which is 3x less than the cap floor.
Ya, I just don't see how a viable season can take place.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 18 @ 9:33 PM ET
Fkn Gong Show.



Hope this doesnt break the COC....

- boonerbuck


I approve, 😁
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 18 @ 10:08 PM ET
I approve, 😁
- Reubenkincade

Okay, you asked for it.


1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:10 PM ET


It's either that or everyone ignored that poster and that would also hurt my feelings.

I don't mind you guys following me around, hounding my ridiculous takes!

Like this one, BC is now in a two week lockdown from the Wuhan flu because of boomers and millennials, as an X'r I'm tired of following the rules while those older and younger then me continue to have coffee and ruin the world for me...

- Pres.cup


I know some X’ers who are just as bad as the Millennials and Z’s
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:12 PM ET
I ain't afraid to admit it. I love watching christmas hallmark movies.

Granted I don't know how much I watch, they mostly play in the background but they play!

- manvanfan


I just threw up in my mouth. Thanks for ruining an otherwise wonderful dinner.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
Okay, you asked for it.



- A_SteamingLombardi





Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 18 @ 10:14 PM ET
Okay, you asked for it.



- A_SteamingLombardi


👍
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Nov 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
Okay, you asked for it.



- A_SteamingLombardi


1. At least this was hockey related (the stick in his hand)
2. Man, I used to love that show!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
I just threw up in my mouth. Thanks for ruining an otherwise wonderful dinner.
- 1970vintage


If dinner was so wonderful you shouldn't have a problem tasting it twice.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 18 @ 10:15 PM ET
1. At least this was hockey related (the stick in his hand)
2. Man, I used to love that show!

- 1970vintage


He even wears his shirt like a out of control coke head.
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