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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
No its not a trade when Canucks own the rights to all and are paying for all. Plus I used the word "loan" you cut off later in your quote.
- NuckUp

I'll take transfer for $200, please.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 18 @ 4:12 PM ET
He's been playing wing all season. I don't think he will be an NHL centermen.

IMO Karlsson is ahead of Focht on Canucks player ranking. Maybe by a single spot but he's better than Focht.

- manvanfan

I don't think either projects as an NHLer
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:13 PM ET
To those of you who like to post links to CanucksArmy, could you please stop.
Those twits will argue with you then delete your comments, when you prove them wrong, then quickly produce a new article with the correct information that you have provided.
A complete waste of time reading.

- Reubenkincade

Thank you, I would have posted this but I'd be labeled a troll.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:15 PM ET
Going from MTAs to inter-league trades.... Nice! You put the real in surreal. 👍
- RealityChecker

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:16 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2...-wild-card-training-camp/

Kid sounds motivated & smart. If nothing else he’ll push the competition. 👍
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:16 PM ET
Right behind Trevor Linden


- Pacificgem

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
He's been playing wing all season. I don't think he will be an NHL centermen.

IMO Karlsson is ahead of Focht on Canucks player ranking. Maybe by a single spot but he's better than Focht.

- manvanfan


Okay well that might get him more ice time. I have Focht as a center. So for Canucks who are really short there I put him above. But who knows, both of them are far from ever making the NHL. With no Comets and Taxi squads likely for Canucks next season prospects will be out of reach for a while.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
I'll take transfer for $200, please.
- Marwood

😂
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 18 @ 4:17 PM ET
I just don't think you're thinking out of the box enough!

I like your proposition so let me counter:
Louie Eriksson to the SEL. SEL team sends a player to SKA who send pod to Canucks. Easy peasy.

Next trade.
Sutter to Acme Ranch in Alberta. It's not a hockey team but Sutter gets traded there on a consultancy contract with Canucks picking up his salary. Acme ranch agrees to provide the Tampa Bay lightning with free Alberta beef for 2 years. TB sends Cernak to the Canucks.

- RealityChecker

RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 18 @ 4:18 PM ET
No its not a trade when Canucks own the rights to all and are paying for all. Plus I clarified in next sentence as in on "loan" but you neglected that to have a lark.
- NuckUp

So.... If it is a loan, can SKA accept the players and say no to giving pod? If no, it is a trade. If yes, you're just asking for his release irrespective of the loaned players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2020/11/18/jack-rathbone-going-wild-card-training-camp/

Kid sounds motivated & smart. If nothing else he’ll push the competition. 👍

- Nighthawk

https://canucksarmy.com/2...defencemen-nhl-readiness/

What about the most NHL ready D.

Faber is so sour on OJ. Faber needs to just admit he was wrong about the guy and get over it.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 18 @ 4:29 PM ET
Okay well that might get him more ice time. I have Focht as a center. So for Canucks who are really short there I put him above. But who knows, both of them are far from ever making the NHL. With no Comets and Taxi squads likely for Canucks next season prospects will be out of reach for a while.
- NuckUp

AHL has said if NHL is going so are they.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 4:30 PM ET
So.... If it is a loan, can SKA accept the players and say no to giving pod? If no, it is a trade. If yes, you're just asking for his release irrespective of the loaned players.
- RealityChecker


Its predicated on asking for Podz release. Like Burke has said SKA is really stingy with that. Usually money talks. But in this case perhaps, in addition to that, a free player loan will be seen as a win for them to fill in his support role. It certainly would be for Canucks who are on the hook for those 2 waived NHL contracts.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 4:41 PM ET
AHL has said if NHL is going so are they.
- manvanfan


Yeah they say that and keep moving their dates further back. I don't see the NHL starting up without hybrid bubbles. Things are getting out of control in the States. That would make AHL use problematic.

But here's the thing with Canucks the border will be closed so Utica would be useless to them. They would prefer Taxi squads over relocating AHL team to Canada. Which is another hard to get going option with no revenue streams, TV, or otherwise.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 18 @ 4:44 PM ET
I don't think either projects as an NHLer
- NorthNuck

The chances are pretty slim.

It is a "second tier" but it's not the same as most "second tier" leagues. Teams can be promoted and demoted. Teams can win promotion and be playing in SHL next season.

The Allsvenskan is probably around NCAA in terms of quality. So think of it as a ppg NCAA 21 year old.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 5:08 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2020/11/18/ranking-top-five-canucks-young-defencemen-nhl-readiness/

What about the most NHL ready D.

Faber is so sour on OJ. Faber needs to just admit he was wrong about the guy and get over it.

- manvanfan

Too often injury set backs are ignored. He isn’t objective at all. Hit & miss articles anyone can pen. The Bobfather could teach a few ppl on how to do things.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 5:11 PM ET
Its predicated on asking for Podz release. Like Burke has said SKA is really stingy with that. Usually money talks. But in this case perhaps, in addition to that, a free player loan will be seen as a win for them to fill in his support role. It certainly would be for Canucks who are on the hook for those 2 waived NHL contracts.
- NuckUp

You miss the main point. The KHL isn’t in bed with the NHL. Nice gestures don’t happen. They want control & oppose the NHL trying to compete against them.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 18 @ 5:25 PM ET
Yeah they say that and keep moving their dates further back. I don't see the NHL starting up without hybrid bubbles. Things are getting out of control in the States. That would make AHL use problematic.

But here's the thing with Canucks the border will be closed so Utica would be useless to them. They would prefer Taxi squads over relocating AHL team to Canada. Which is another hard to get going option with no revenue streams, TV, or otherwise.

- NuckUp

Don't forget that the TV contracts are already paid, but require a minimum amount of games back. If they don't play, they could be on the hook to pay back some money to the TV networks.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 18 @ 5:28 PM ET
To those of you who like to post links to CanucksArmy, could you please stop.
Those twits will argue with you then delete your comments, when you prove them wrong, then quickly produce a new article with the correct information that you have provided.
A complete waste of time reading.

- Reubenkincade


Kind of the wrong time to be complaining about any Canuck material at all being posted in here regardless of them not treating you fair there. Your reaction to them censoring you is to protest and ask for people to stop here?

What else is going on here besides watching a group of people make the thread about them every day as they follow one poster around antagonizing him?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 18 @ 5:38 PM ET
Kind of the wrong time to be complaining about any Canuck material at all being posted in here regardless of them not treating you fair there. Your reaction to them censoring you is to protest and ask for people to stop here?

What else is going on here besides watching a group of people make the thread about them every day as they follow one poster around antagonizing him?

- boonerbuck

It's against the C.O.C. in here. No outside links. Reuby made a great point but we can still call you Zoro for watching over the vulnerable.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 18 @ 5:48 PM ET
I just don't think you're thinking out of the box enough!

I like your proposition so let me counter:
Louie Eriksson to the SEL. SEL team sends a player to SKA who send pod to Canucks. Easy peasy.

Next trade.
Sutter to Acme Ranch in Alberta. It's not a hockey team but Sutter gets traded there on a consultancy contract with Canucks picking up his salary. Acme ranch agrees to provide the Tampa Bay lightning with free Alberta beef for 2 years. TB sends Cernak to the Canucks.

- RealityChecker

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Nov 18 @ 5:53 PM ET
Kind of the wrong time to be complaining about any Canuck material at all being posted in here regardless of them not treating you fair there. Your reaction to them censoring you is to protest and ask for people to stop here?

What else is going on here besides watching a group of people make the thread about them every day as they follow one poster around antagonizing him?

- boonerbuck


First off, I am sure everyone here knows how to get access to the garbage material from that site.
Secondly, it is against #4 of the COC
4. Respect HockeyBuzz
We welcome links to hockey news or commentary that will generate discussion at HockeyBuzz. Please do not post links to other hockey forums, rumor sites, or fantasy hockey sites, which obviously are our direct competitors. Also, do not use HockeyBuzz to promote products or unrelated websites
3rd, I couldn't give rats ass if people read that crap, asking people to not post garbage in here isn't complainining, it is expressing an opinion, which, if anyone on here should ne able to relate to, it should be you, as you tend to express your opinion quite regularly and lengthy.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 18 @ 5:53 PM ET
Kind of the wrong time to be complaining about any Canuck material at all being posted in here regardless of them not treating you fair there. Your reaction to them censoring you is to protest and ask for people to stop here?

What else is going on here besides watching a group of people make the thread about them every day as they follow one poster around antagonizing him?

- boonerbuck


I don't know which one poster you're speaking of. However, if it's any poster that has ridiculous takes and defends them to their bitter end than I'd say they've brought that upon themselves.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 18 @ 6:05 PM ET
Don't forget that the TV contracts are already paid, but require a minimum amount of games back. If they don't play, they could be on the hook to pay back some money to the TV networks.
- Retinalz


Yes that goes for the NHL ones. But there is no Canadian TV contract for AHL games, at least those involving Comets.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 18 @ 6:12 PM ET
I’m pretty bad at posting outside links maybe the worst even. I’ll refrain & not drum up discussion. I’ll keep it in house.
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