Why is it either/or? Of course, the impacts on people suffering from mental health issues in isolation are huge. Zoom doesn’t cut it, but the fact remains that failing to take focussed action now just means we are going to be facing more drastic problems later.
- Canada Cup

You ignored a lot of what I said.

If you can take anything from this it’s to have compassion for everyone and that we aren’t pushing enough to curb this virus. Like I said the media hasn’t pushed health and wellness at all and it’s key in curbing the virus. Just as much as it is to social distance and to wear masks. We haven’t seen it though and it’s frustrating.

We’ve been ignoring it as a society for decades though. Over a million deaths a year in the US alone are in result of poor health and wellness. It’s as important as ever and it’s not being pushed or educated.

[quote=winsix]

A lot of funding into a vaccine eh?

But nothing on improving and strengthening the one thing we as human beings biologically have for defending such a virus.

Strange. We haven’t been listening for decades so why start now right?

[quote=Santo_44]

Do you honestly believe that if we built up our immune system significatly that the 53.7 million world wide cases and 1.31 million deaths would somehow miraculously have been avoided? The most highly contageous and damaging virus in our lifetime and we should have eaten more Vitamin D and goji berries which would have stopped it in its tracks. The vaccine this early is a pure blessing.

[quote=winsix]
Do you honestly believe that if we closed down restaurants and limited contact significatly that the 53.7 million world wide cases and 1.31 million deaths would somehow miraculously have been avoided?

Do you realize where I am getting at? It’s not about making this thing disappear. It’s about limiting infections and death.

Yes. Strengthening our immune systems and improving our mental wellness would bring down Covid numbers significantly. Our poor knowledge and execution on our health and wellness has killed millions and millions a year of people in North America alone BEFORE this pandemic.

We’ve ignored the death toll for decades and now we are still ignoring and undereducating our health in a crucial time.

I never ever once said we don’t need to use our distancing methods. We need to combine the two and we’ve been severely lacking in our health and wellness. We literally have control in strengthening a function in our bodies that fight diseases. We’ve been abusing it all these years which has caused a decent chunk of the population to become even more vulnerable to such a disease.

And yes vitamin D is crucial, absolutely crucial for our immune function. Again there’s this stubborn mindset people have that education about your health is people trying to explain to you that it’s a magic bean that makes you invincible. It’s not, it improves your bodily function to help prevent death and illness...JUST like what we are doing with social distancing measures. It’s not a magic bean but it helps flatten the curb.

And they should be listened to and their recommendations should be considered in conjunction with other factors.

There is balance to all of this.

What price would you pay if there was a lockdown? What would you lose? How would your life change?

My guess? You would lose nothing and your life wouldn't change at all. You are fine with other people paying the price of course.
- Leafs43

Well said.

Half of Canadians have a vitamin D deficiency(projected to be more) in the winter months.

Vitamin D is vital for immune function.

But hey, the most push I have read online about this is from Zezel on HB.
- Santo_44

It's pretty crazy. Vitamin D can be quite hard to get enough of in winter without supplementation. It's not in very many food sources. Dr. Fauci takes massive doses of it. Deficiency is strongly linked to severe cases of Covid. I take a multi and get sun and eat a lot of salmon and sardines and I've started taking an extra D supplement as the days have gotten short and I'm cycling in the dark more.

It's pretty crazy. Vitamin D can be quite hard to get enough of in winter without supplementation. It's not in very many food sources. Dr. Fauci takes massive doses of it. Deficiency is strongly linked to severe cases of Covid. I take a multi and get sun and eat a lot of salmon and sardines and I've started taking an extra D supplement as the days have gotten short and I'm cycling in the dark more.
- Zezel

Yup, its extremely important in any winter season. Especially this one.

People should 1000-2000 IU per day. More if you are larger than the average person.

When treating the flu they will use 50000 IU a DAY. Its insane how we aren't seeing a push on this in the mainstream media.

Word of mouth only goes so far.

A huge reason why the flu is so prevalent in winter months....but hey who gives a f right? It doesn't help because its not in some poll or on the 7 pm news.

Yup, its extremely important in any winter season. Especially this one.

People should 1000-2000 IU per day. More if you are larger than the average person.

When treating the flu they will use 50000 IU a DAY. Its insane how we aren't seeing a push on this in the mainstream media.

Word of mouth only goes so far.

A huge reason why the flu is so prevalent in winter months....but hey who gives a f right? It doesn't help because its not in some poll or on the 7 pm news.
- Santo_44

People stockpiled years of worth of toilet paper in their basements based on a stampede effect that had no basis in reality (there never was going to be any toilet paper shortage). But nobody knows that half of us are vitamin D deficient and it can save you from Covid.

[quote=Santo_44]

I’m not sure it’s a question if just improving your mental health and building up your immune system.

The people who are suffering the most severe Covid symptoms are those who have pre-existing issues that they can’t do anything about:

* they’re old, they’re cancer survivors, they have diabetes or blood disorders or heart disease.

* they work in areas where they are more at risk.

Young, healthy people are getting infected by the thousands and because they’re young and healthy they may never show any symptoms and may infect lots of others who are vulnerable.

People stockpiled years of worth of toilet paper in their basements based on a stampede effect that had no basis in reality (there never was going to be any toilet paper shortage). But nobody knows that half of us are vitamin D deficient and it can save you from Covid.
- Zezel

I am happy we are working on a vaccine and drilling it into peoples heads to wear masks and wash their hands....but there are some seriously good resources readily available to us that can help us curb this thing and the government or the media just dont give a (frank).

The vaccine is all they (frank)ing care about right now...dont get me wrong it is important too but lets have some balance here. DRs and health experts have been giving us knowledge and information about our health for years and they still cant make the (frank)ing news

Yup, its extremely important in any winter season. Especially this one.

People should 1000-2000 IU per day. More if you are larger than the average person.

When treating the flu they will use 50000 IU a DAY. Its insane how we aren't seeing a push on this in the mainstream media.

Word of mouth only goes so far.

A huge reason why the flu is so prevalent in winter months....but hey who gives a f right? It doesn't help because its not in some poll or on the 7 pm news.
- Santo_44

I take 80 µg, that should be 3200 IU, a day 7 months a year and half of that in the summer months. Done it for 10 years. Hardly ever sick

[quote=Canada Cup]

I am well aware that some health problems are due to genetics.

But many many many health problems are due to our poor health standards. millions of diseases from poor health standards are caused every year, and yes those people with diseases from poor health are vulnerable to covid right now.

And even for those who have problems at no fault of their own...there are ways to strengthen your body, regardless of what state of health you were given.

I am happy we are working on a vaccine and drilling it into peoples heads to wear masks and wash their hands....but there are some seriously good resources readily available to us that can help us curb this thing and the government or the media just dont give a (frank).

The vaccine is all they (frank)ing care about right now...dont get me wrong it is important too but lets have some balance here. DRs and health experts have been giving us knowledge and information about our health for years and they still cant make the (frank)ing news
- Santo_44

We can all agree that being healthy is good.

But being healthy doesn’t stop you from spreading the virus. Healthy asymptotic people spread the virus, particularly since they don’t know they’re infected.

I take 80 µg, that should be 3200 IU, a day 7 months a year and half of that in the summer months. Done it for 10 years. Hardly ever sick
- 21peter

I get sick once every couple years, shows you just how bad we need it.

Seasonal depression is linked to the deficiency as well.

We can all agree that being healthy is good.

But being healthy doesn’t stop you from spreading the virus. Healthy asymptotic people spread the virus, particularly since they don’t know they’re infected.
- Canada Cup

First of all, yes it does. I really shouldn't have to explain that to you. Healthier people=Less deaths, less people getting sick. Less people in Emerge for health related illnesses.

Second of all we are trying to save lives here. However we are ignoring a really easy way to save (frank)ing lives.

People stockpiled years of worth of toilet paper in their basements based on a stampede effect that had no basis in reality (there never was going to be any toilet paper shortage). But nobody knows that half of us are vitamin D deficient and it can save you from Covid.
- Zezel

It cant save you from it, but help protect against it

Seems like a sh!tshow in here

It cant save you from it, but help protect against it

Seems like a sh!tshow in here
- Fakepartofme

Yeah.

Kinda what we are trying to do here....

First of all, yes it does. I really shouldn't have to explain that to you. Healthier people=Less deaths, less people getting sick. Less people in Emerge for health related illnesses.

Second of all we are trying to save lives here. However we are ignoring a really easy way to save (frank)ing lives.
- Santo_44

Oh ffs.
Healthy people can spread the virus..get sick and die.

Yeah.

Kinda what we are trying to do here....
- Santo_44

Ya it MAY lower your chance of the virus having a real negative impact on your system.
But you can still catch it and spread it

It cant save you from it, but help protect against it

Seems like a sh!tshow in here
- Fakepartofme

New Zealand is known as the land of Vitamin D. New Zealand has eradicated Covid. Coincidence or did they throw it into the fires of Mordor?

Oh ffs.
Healthy people can spread the virus..get sick and die.
- Fakepartofme

When did I say healthy people can’t get sick or die from an illness?

Just like wearing a mask and social distancing, education on health will help curb the virus.

Like I said earlier, when people talk about educating ourselves about health we get accused of saying it’s a magical bean that will make you live forever.

It’s simply a tool to help fight infection disease...like COVID.

Ya it MAY lower your chance of the virus having a real negative impact on your system.
But you can still catch it and spread it
- Fakepartofme

Of course you can.

Lesser symptoms=less ways to spread the virus

Less coughing. Less sneezing.

And you know, less chance of dying...kinda what we are trying to prevent here.

New Zealand is known as the land of Vitamin D. New Zealand has eradicated Covid. Coincidence or did they throw it into the fires of Mordor?
- Canada Cup

They had low cases to begin with, locked down right away, quarantined the country for 14 days, shut its borders down to all non citizens.

They didnt fack around
Unlike almost every other country.

But yes, sure mordor it was

They had low cases to begin with, locked down right away, quarantined the country for 14 days, shut its borders down to all non citizens.

They didnt fack around
Unlike almost every other country.

But yes, sure mordor it was
- Fakepartofme

No, I think its because they don't have restaurants or gyms.

Of course you can.

Lesser symptoms=less ways to spread the virus

Less coughing. Less sneezing.

And you know, less chance of dying...kinda what we are trying to prevent here.
- Santo_44

40-50% of the spread comes from people without symptoms - healthy people.