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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 5:28 PM ET
Podz and Hogger both have top 6 upside, may not be this upcoming season(also can't rule it out) but they definitely have it. Podz can potentially come in and be that right away, doesn't mean you ship off Pearson. If Podz comes in after KHL season expires and earns the top 6 spot, Pearson on our 3rd line makes us that much better.
- Retinalz

Podz making his return to the line up with a goal and an assist.

Hogz also scored a goal and an assist.

Zlodeyev with two assists

Prospect haters in shambles
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:29 PM ET
Good day for Canucks prospects Podz, Hogz, and Zlodz.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...PvVzRtm5YUyd0C9xhRMBiY9To

https://canucksarmy.com/2...8vVSBXMyyfII9VFYPC8uMVHz4

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:30 PM ET
Podz making his return to the line up with a goal and an assist.

Hogz also scored a goal and an assist.

Zlodeyev with two assists

Prospect haters in shambles

- manvanfan


This post doesnt qualify. No links you lazy sod...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:31 PM ET
NEW YORK – A loud and boisterous crowd of fans are demanding the NHL stop the conspiracy to steal the Stanley Cup from the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Approximately 200 fans protested outside the NHL’s New York City Headquarters in an effort to reverse previous losses, missed playoffs, and the team’s inevitable mediocre performance this season.

“This should have been our year, just like all the other years,” shouted a man wearing a Doug Gilmour jersey claiming the game has been rigged since 1968. “And we’re going to win this year, but the tyrannical NHL doesn’t want the truth that we are, hands down, the best team.”

Other passionate partisans claimed the Tampa Bay Lightning and the other 28 teams in the league were plotting against their team by dumping extra pucks into play.

“There was a second puck that slid in the net, but [Frederik] Andersen clearly stopped it,” said another fan showing a grainy video of two pucks he found on the internet on his phone.

Meanwhile, the Toronto Maple Leafs head office was suing the NHL demanding a recount of the 2019-2020 GF/GA results.

https://www.thebeaverton....steal-of-the-stanley-cup/
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 5:33 PM ET
I agree with Carol, waiting as long as you can to sign Pettersson is probably the best course of action. When things normalize I could see him coming in around 9.5 million per.
- Pacificgem

Sounds about right. Still wondering if a bridge for him or Hughes will happen. Undecided what is the best course of action.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 5:35 PM ET
This post doesnt qualify. No links you lazy sod...
- boonerbuck

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 5:36 PM ET
Matthews is one of the best goal scorers in the league, along with Draisaitl, Stamkos, Pastrnak and Ovechin, but he’s not one of the top ten players in the league.
- Pacificgem

Again I agree geez lol

No slight against Leaf fans he’s very good but there at least 10 ahead of him.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 12 @ 5:42 PM ET
Partly wishful thinking and part legitimate question related to VHG's comment about asset mgmt.

The writing was on the wall regarding Markstrom. Freidman would bring it up every time the Canucks played on HNIC. Tanev was also beyond his best before date and they would have known they'd lose him on the open market. Stetcher's name kept coming up around the trade deadline because they couldn't justify what his qualifying offer would need to be.

Like you say, those choices were made in favor of going for a playoff spot rather than trying to build a stronger team for the long term. As fun as their little run was, in hindsight, it might have been better if ownership had pushed Benning to pursue the asset management strategy.

- YeOldTimer

Aquilini has never pushed for a slow strategy. Why would he when the team was finally in a playoff spot? Fans (most), the players and ownership would have been furious if Benning tried to sell at the deadline. An interesting “what if” discussion but it was never a realistic option
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 5:43 PM ET
Valid point from Harman.

"Benning and the Canucks will face the same cap challenges next offseason as they did this year. As a result, Vancouver faces an uphill climb in its endeavour to emerge as a Western Conference powerhouse within the next two years."

- VanHockeyGuy

This is where what Petey & Hughes decide to do will dictate this. I think winning will be more important to both not immediate greed. One or both might see it that way to allow JB some flexibility. Luv to be in the room when young stars discuss the future if with JB if they sign bridge deals & how the team goes forward. Still leaves one season of the prospects to impact the next round of negotiations. If they do well it will help immensely.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 5:44 PM ET
Again I agree geez lol

No slight against Leaf fans he’s very good but there at least 10 ahead of him.

- Nighthawk

Every leaf fan believed that he was a top 10 player in the NHL.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:53 PM ET
Every leaf fan believed that he was a top 10 player in the NHL.
- manvanfan


Generational. Over and over Leafs fans called him generational. Many claimed they had 2 generational players when they picked up JT.

The team has been so starved for star power for so long that any top line player is generational in their eyes.
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Nov 12 @ 5:53 PM ET
Aquilini has never pushed for a slow strategy. Why would he when the team was finally in a playoff spot? Fans (most), the players and ownership would have been furious if Benning tried to sell at the deadline. An interesting “what if” discussion but it was never a realistic option
- CanuckDon


Obviously. Might be worthy of a pin on the team's timeline of futility. We'll have to wait and see.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 12 @ 5:56 PM ET
Generational. Over and over Leafs fans called him generational. Many claimed they had 2 generational players when they picked up JT.

The team has been so starved for star power for so long that any top line player is generational in their eyes.

- boonerbuck

Very good NHL talent.

He is only 23 years old though.

Leafs fan say the media is very hard on the club to though.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 6:10 PM ET
EP and QH will get 2-3 year deals due to Flat Cap. I doubt teams will hand out long term, high value contracts until things return to normal and cap starts going back up.
- Retinalz

Hoping in the 8m & 7.5m range.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 6:12 PM ET
Here's the problem I have with Benning, asset management

Trade the fuking guy for ? instead of letting him walk.

- VanHockeyGuy

Are you pinning that on Hoglander &/or others step up? The big question is do FA & JB put winning ahead of asset management?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 6:13 PM ET
I don't either. Do you think that's the general consensus here?
- VanHockeyGuy

Petey & Matthews both top 20 C’s imo.
Both will be top 10 soon enough.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 12 @ 6:19 PM ET
Good day for Canucks prospects Podz, Hogz, and Zlodz.

https://canucksarmy.com/2...PvVzRtm5YUyd0C9xhRMBiY9To

https://canucksarmy.com/2...8vVSBXMyyfII9VFYPC8uMVHz4

- boonerbuck



All part of the peaks and valleys of development. The way things are going with the NHL all we'll have to talk about is prospects in Euro leagues.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 6:42 PM ET
Leafs blog already complaining that the Canadian division will put them at a disadvantage. The NHL is so unfair to them.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Nov 12 @ 6:59 PM ET
Leafs blog already complaining that the Canadian division will put them at a disadvantage. The NHL is so unfair to them.
- boonerbuck


lol and some in here were rating them #1 to finish in that division. The greed to have game attendance in the USA for NHL games will slant the vote away from hybrid bubble.

Stupid places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee etc will allow fans no matter how bad things are with Covid. I'd rather they go to a hybrid bubble with all 4 divisions in Canada instead of a Canadian division.

But in the end don't care. Just want hockey, and if that means pounding Leaf ass once a week instead of twice a year; so be it.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 7:13 PM ET
lol and some in here were rating them #1 to finish in that division. The greed to have game attendance in the USA for NHL games will slant the vote away from hybrid bubble.

Stupid places like Florida, Texas, Tennessee etc will allow fans no matter how bad things are with Covid. I'd rather they go to a hybrid bubble with all 4 divisions in Canada instead of a Canadian division.

But in the end don't care. Just want hockey, and if that means pounding Leaf ass once a week instead of twice a year; so be it.

- NuckUp


Last time they met in the playoffs was 94 and Canucks beat them in the conference final. Would that ever be a fun match up. I had a blast during that series with so many friends from TO around me.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 12 @ 7:24 PM ET
Thanks Carol

5th best center in the NHL?

I'd question whether he's top 10.

Funny, I was in the Toronto thread and I asked them who the top 10 players in the league are.

Who do you think are the 10 best players in the league right now?

- manvanfan


I think there was an nhl.com article last week, I'll try and fail to find it and won't post it to back up my theory.... might have been western conference only....

McDavid
Dr. Dre
McKinnon
Pettersson
I forgot the fifth one, probably Sutter.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Nov 12 @ 7:32 PM ET
Petey & Matthews both top 20 C’s imo.
Both will be top 10 soon enough.

- Nighthawk


Split it east and west

Think Pettersson could be called a top 5 center in the west, so many great centers in the east though with Stamos, Crosby, Malkin, etc...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 12 @ 7:38 PM ET
Split it east and west

Think Pettersson could be called a top 5 center in the west, so many great centers in the east though with Stamos, Crosby, Malkin, etc...

- Pres.cup


No top 5 center has his winger taking his faceoffs for him. In all honesty, EP is learning how to be a center right now. He came out of the SHL a winger... he needs to get competent with the faceoffs. He has to take more of them to do that...
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 7:40 PM ET
No but he should have the foresight to fill all the holes once the shyte contracts expire.
And not with exclusive AHL talent. All you fanboys are pumping Pod and Hog as top 6 players, so if that's the case trade Pearson while you can get something for him instead of letting him walk for SFA like TT. Sound reasonable or does JB just circle back to him at the bottom of the 9th?

- VanHockeyGuy

Nobody has said Hog is top 6. On Pod it’s been said his skill set will eventually have him up & down the top 9 in various roles.

Much has yet to play out before deciding on any TDL moves. I don’t see any current roster traded out til something makes sense. No moves will be a step backwards in theory.

We are currently still in draft/develop mode with prospects having spots to earn or in the least on D to develop on the go or platoon as I hope. ELC’s will be in the line up.

The next 1-2yrs will see vets out & prospects moving in on merit. Subsequent trades will maybe happen as the picture clears more.

Next season is going to be a transition year.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Nov 12 @ 7:56 PM ET
Every leaf fan believed that he was a top 10 player in the NHL.
- manvanfan

No doubt if talking non PO teams 😂
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