Aetherial
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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If you get a chance to download/watch 100 Days to Victory, do so.
It is a really interesting look at the allies tactics in WW2. It is a 2 parts, a couple hours total. |
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Monkeypunk
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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My bias must be coming through with Montreal. I have seen a lot of people say that they are much improved...But I just don't see it.
Of course they have Price, so they can make the playoffs on him alone if he has a good year. - Leafs43
Ignore Josh Anderson's injury riddled 1 goal season last season, and think of the Josh Anderson who scored 27 the year before and was a physical presence. Could he be David Clarkson v2.0? Yeah, he could - but I don't think he is. For one thing he's smarter.
So they lose Domi - and I like Domi, he's fast, dynamic, skilled, and a d!ck. He has an even more punchable face than his dad, so that's a skill and a half. That said, Domi was probably good for 25g - 45a, I think - as a very optimistic number. Anderson is probably a 20g - 20a guy. He won't elevate the guys around him in the same way Domi did, but his physical presence will be much more noticeable. They also added Toffoli. I don't much care for him, but he's still a 15-20 goal guy.
They added Edmundson, which stabilizes their D. Last year they had 5 defensemen and a 6th guy who was anyone - Scandella, Fleury, Oeullette - and now they have 6 guys, and the guy they insert is capable of being a 2nd pairing guy.
Last year they had backup soup. You thought Hutchinson was bad in Toronto and Sparks, the year before, was worse? Last year the Habs had Kinkaid (.875), Lindgren (.888) and Cayden Primeau, a 20 year old, who shouldn't have been in the NHL yet. Getting Allen, even though it's at $4.3M for one year, gives Price some rest, and they're betting, gets them a better Carey Price. A better Carey Price obviously makes them a better team.
I typically don't like Bergevin that much, but I thought he had a pretty solid offseason. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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i feel like they have a "go for it" plan..but not there yet.
just get lindor, bauer and springer...whats 200 mil - senstroll
Fingers crossed.
I'd love Springer and Morton. Both high end vets and Morton is a short term deal.
They know they need to start throwing bigger money at Bichette n Vladi in 22' so that'll factor in as well. |
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GreatGigInTheSky
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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It's such a zany thought. There are 7 teams, maybe playing a 60 game season? That's 10 times against each other in a relatively short order.
I do a quick summary as:
Toronto: They are better than played last year, and got better on the back-end where they probably had the biggest weakness. Honestly, they are a weaker offensive tea, but hopefully more balanced. Assuming Andersen rebounds, they should be a top-2 team.
Edmonton: Got better forward depth which is good. Still need some more consistency in net. They still have 2 Hart trophy winners who haven't even hit their prime.
Calgary: Got Markstrom which initially I thought was great, but he wasn't substantially better than Talbot's performance. He's better, but numerically . . .it may not be enough to overcome the loss of Brodie and Hamonic with oft-injured Tanev as the replacement.
Vancouver: The young guys are getting better. Personally, I don't think that much of Holtby, so they'll go as far as Demko takes them. He might need some growing time, too.
Montreal: Probably made the best offseason moves by stabilizing the D with Edmundson, getting an actual backup, and adding some toughness up front in Anderson, and not losing TOO much offensive dynamic in doing so.
Winnipeg: Hellebuyck deserves a defense. DeMelo, Pionk and Morrissey are half of a good D. Another vezina season will help them, obviously, but if your hope is a vezina season, it's a poor strategy.
Ottawa: Matt Murray in net on a weak defensive team? What could go wrong? Who cares? This team isn't about this year. They have a lot of good young prospects who will probably start to show this year, but won't really be ready for 2-3 years. Just in time to have Matt Murray in net for 2 more years with $6.2M contract. - Monkeypunk
It's an AHL schedule. Looking a lot like the Marlies.
My guess on the order-
Calgary
Leafs
Edmonton
Winterpeg
Vancouver
Montreal
Ottawa
Could easily see the top 3 change places, though. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Ignore Josh Anderson's injury riddled 1 goal season last season, and think of the Josh Anderson who scored 27 the year before and was a physical presence. Could he be David Clarkson v2.0? Yeah, he could - but I don't think he is. For one thing he's smarter.
So they lose Domi - and I like Domi, he's fast, dynamic, skilled, and a d!ck. He has an even more punchable face than his dad, so that's a skill and a half. That said, Domi was probably good for 25g - 45a, I think - as a very optimistic number. Anderson is probably a 20g - 20a guy. He won't elevate the guys around him in the same way Domi did, but his physical presence will be much more noticeable. They also added Toffoli. I don't much care for him, but he's still a 15-20 goal guy.
They added Edmundson, which stabilizes their D. Last year they had 5 defensemen and a 6th guy who was anyone - Scandella, Fleury, Oeullette - and now they have 6 guys, and the guy they insert is capable of being a 2nd pairing guy.
Last year they had backup soup. You thought Hutchinson was bad in Toronto and Sparks, the year before, was worse? Last year the Habs had Kinkaid (.875), Lindgren (.888) and Cayden Primeau, a 20 year old, who shouldn't have been in the NHL yet. Getting Allen, even though it's at $4.3M for one year, gives Price some rest, and they're betting, gets them a better Carey Price. A better Carey Price obviously makes them a better team.
I typically don't like Bergevin that much, but I thought he had a pretty solid offseason. - Monkeypunk
I think you may be overrating Josh Anderson, I don't think he'll put up 27 goals again.. I think he could very well be the next David Clarkson as his style of play won't hold up long term
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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It's an AHL schedule. Looking a lot like the Marlies.
My guess on the order-
Calgary
Leafs
Edmonton
Winterpeg
Vancouver
Montreal
Ottawa
Could easily see the top 3 change places, though. - GreatGigInTheSky
For me it is;
Toronto
Edmonton
Calgary
Vancouver
Winnipeg
Montreal
Ottawa
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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really like the work that the jays have done, shapkins has built a good team and a good prospect pool at the same time...they got a ton of hate after AA..hard to hate on them at the moment
that 2024 team projection
https://www.baseballameri...e-jays-top-mlb-prospects/ - senstroll
Well lets see what the team looks like in april first |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Ugh working on days like this in November is a crime. |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Well lets see what the team looks like in april first - Fakepartofme
no, im sorry you have to look at the 2024 team first
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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How does Toronto fair in an all Canadian division? - Woderwick
Dominate it |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Ugh working on days like this in November is a crime. - TheMussel
Join the military. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Ugh working on days like this in November is a crime. - TheMussel
It's true
Luckily my company is closed today |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Join the military. - AdamFrench
Maybe I will
Was actually mulling over an application to CSIS for awhile |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Maybe I will
Was actually mulling over an application to CSIS for awhile - TheMussel
Finns are good soldiers. They'd love you. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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If you get a chance to download/watch 100 Days to Victory, do so.
It is a really interesting look at the allies tactics in WW2. It is a 2 parts, a couple hours total. - Aetherial
My dad fought in WW2. He was a 32 lawyer with 3 kids and he volunteered as a private. Army wanted him to stay and prosecute deserters but he was in Italy and Holland. Mum was pissed. She put the 3 girls in a convent and drove trucks from Grande Prairie to Alaska for the Americans. She was the worst driver I’ve ever known. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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I think you may be overrating Josh Anderson, I don't think he'll put up 27 goals again.. I think he could very well be the next David Clarkson as his style of play won't hold up long term - PatC80
I could be. I don't think he' s a 25+ goal guy, but I think he could certainly be in the 15-20 goal category. He was hurt for much of last year. Much of this depends on how well he recovers. If he recovers poorly, then he is David Clarkson v2.0 with an equivalently awful contract. |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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Ignore Josh Anderson's injury riddled 1 goal season last season, and think of the Josh Anderson who scored 27 the year before and was a physical presence. Could he be David Clarkson v2.0? Yeah, he could - but I don't think he is. For one thing he's smarter.
So they lose Domi - and I like Domi, he's fast, dynamic, skilled, and a d!ck. He has an even more punchable face than his dad, so that's a skill and a half. That said, Domi was probably good for 25g - 45a, I think - as a very optimistic number. Anderson is probably a 20g - 20a guy. He won't elevate the guys around him in the same way Domi did, but his physical presence will be much more noticeable. They also added Toffoli. I don't much care for him, but he's still a 15-20 goal guy.
They added Edmundson, which stabilizes their D. Last year they had 5 defensemen and a 6th guy who was anyone - Scandella, Fleury, Oeullette - and now they have 6 guys, and the guy they insert is capable of being a 2nd pairing guy.
Last year they had backup soup. You thought Hutchinson was bad in Toronto and Sparks, the year before, was worse? Last year the Habs had Kinkaid (.875), Lindgren (.888) and Cayden Primeau, a 20 year old, who shouldn't have been in the NHL yet. Getting Allen, even though it's at $4.3M for one year, gives Price some rest, and they're betting, gets them a better Carey Price. A better Carey Price obviously makes them a better team.
I typically don't like Bergevin that much, but I thought he had a pretty solid offseason. - Monkeypunk
I agree.
I just don't see a massively improved roster. I see improvements. We will see, a good year from Price could mean a 100 point pace, a bad season from Price could mean they are bottom feeders.
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I could be. I don't think he' s a 25+ goal guy, but I think he could certainly be in the 15-20 goal category. He was hurt for much of last year. Much of this depends on how well he recovers. If he recovers poorly, then he is David Clarkson v2.0 with an equivalently awful contract. - Monkeypunk
It also depends on where he plays in the lineup...Wil he play on a line with Danault or Suzuki? Or, who else do they have Jordan Weal? |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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It also depends on where he plays in the lineup...Wil he play on a line with Danault or Suzuki? Or, who else do they have Jordan Weal? - PatC80
It does. You probably have something like:
Tatar - Danault - Gallagher
Drouin - Suzuki - Anderson
Toffoli - Kotkaniemi - Armia or Lehkonen - Kotkaniemi - Toffoli and Armia moves to the 4th line.
I think Anderson is in their top 6 to start. If he bombs out, he probably ends up on the third line, swapping out with Toffoli. There are so many unknowns and everything, but if he just plays his size, he'll make room for the smaller guys like Drouin, Suzuki or Kotkaniemi to do something.
Let's face it - I'd much rather he suck salty ice balls than be good for the Habs - I just don't think he will. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I think you may be overrating Josh Anderson, I don't think he'll put up 27 goals again.. I think he could very well be the next David Clarkson as his style of play won't hold up long term - PatC80
Why though?
Do you think his injury is debilitating enough to make him bad all of a sudden? Majority of NHLers can come back from and injury. Especially at a young age. |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Ugh working on days like this in November is a crime. - TheMussel
The temp is dropping at a degree per minute right now |
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Adam French
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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The temp is dropping at a degree per minute right now - Santo_44
Thanks Joebama |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Thanks Joebama - AdamFrench
Fake news
Global warming is fake
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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The temp is dropping at a degree per minute right now - Santo_44
now is the winter of our discontent |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Why though?
Do you think his injury is debilitating enough to make him bad all of a sudden? Majority of NHLers can come back from and injury. Especially at a young age. - Santo_44
I'll be honest it's not so much about the injury, it has to do with his style of play..
I don't think he will be as effective in 3 years... Anderson is a good player that can put up 15-20 goals a season, but I don't see him as a top line winger. |
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