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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:29 PM ET
Oh we know absolutely what he did. There is irrefutable proof including documents, emails and audio recordings.
- MJL


Great! Post your evidentiary links, or disappear forever you loser troll.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
Great! Post your evidentiary links, or disappear forever you loser troll.
- DrMidnite


It's in the public record with emails and documents generated by the Bidens. There is a very credible witness who is a democrat who was a business partner of the Bidens. He has dates, times, down to every detail. Including a tape of Biden's lawyer begging him to not go public because it will ruin the Biden's.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 4 @ 7:36 PM ET
Great! Post your evidentiary links, or disappear forever you loser troll.
- DrMidnite


Seriously, you haven’t heard of this?? It was one the larger campaign stories leading up to the election. The NY Post has been the lead on covering this. Here’s one of the first articles: https://nypost.com/2020/1...ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
It's in the public record with emails and documents generated by the Bidens. There is a very credible witness who is a democrat who was a business partner of the Bidens. He has dates, times, down to every detail. Including a tape of Biden's lawyer begging him to not go public because it will ruin the Biden's.
- MJL


Awesome! Then the election results should be overturned immediately!

Your credibility and Trump's presidency have nothing to worry about!
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 7:42 PM ET
Seriously, you haven’t heard of this?? It was one the larger campaign stories leading up to the election. The NY Post has been the lead on covering this. Here’s one of the first articles: https://nypost.com/2020/1...ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/
- Sublime55


Yes, the Post!

The bastion of everything that is unsullied and truthful.

Please, encourage loved ones to cite them in any academic paper, since I'm assuming you are no longer in school.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 4 @ 7:47 PM ET
Yes, the Post!

The bastion of everything that is unsullied and truthful.

Please, encourage loved ones to cite them in any academic paper, since I'm assuming you are no longer in school.

- DrMidnite


Lol. It’s a lost cause. Can’t argue with cult members and this is a tiny corner on the internet. Not worth it.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 4 @ 7:54 PM ET
Yes, the Post!

The bastion of everything that is unsullied and truthful.

Please, encourage loved ones to cite them in any academic paper, since I'm assuming you are no longer in school.

- DrMidnite


It’s a credible publication, in fact the oldest in the country. Trying to attack the messenger does not diminish the legitimacy of the story .
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Nov 4 @ 7:57 PM ET
Lol. It’s a lost cause. Can’t argue with cult members and this is a tiny corner on the internet. Not worth it.
- StepfordSam


So now the Hunter Biden laptop story that is being actively investigated by the FBI and has not been discredited by the Biden’s is now a story of cult members. Good grief...partisanship is a heck of a drug.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 4 @ 8:02 PM ET
Lmao the conspiracy theory crew is here
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:04 PM ET
So now the Hunter Biden laptop story that is being actively investigated by the FBI and has not been discredited by the Biden’s is now a story of cult members. Good grief...partisanship is a heck of a drug.
- Sublime55


Hahahaha.

It has! And was dismissed! However, your boy's legal troubles are just beginning.

Let's start with some civil suits! Then move on to any criminal aspects of his regime.

It's a good thing he never instructed the FBI to halt investigations into his own dealings.....or appointed a family member to a public position.....or has extended his personal ine of credit further than Britain in WWI (hint, that was really, really big)
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:10 PM ET
It’s a credible publication, in fact the oldest in the country. Trying to attack the messenger does not diminish the legitimacy of the story .
- Sublime55


Actually, that's exactly what it does.

I'm guessing you ate the Onion more than once.
VilleLeinoShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.21.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:26 PM ET
Lol. It’s a lost cause. Can’t argue with cult members and this is a tiny corner on the internet. Not worth it.
- StepfordSam

mainstream boot lickers are the true cult. ORANGE MAN BAD!!!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 4 @ 8:29 PM ET
Seriously, you haven’t heard of this?? It was one the larger campaign stories leading up to the election. The NY Post has been the lead on covering this. Here’s one of the first articles: https://nypost.com/2020/1...ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/
- Sublime55


Ok lets look at this logically.

1. Source: You then surely know that the Post is a tabloid, that the person who wrote the story had never written a story before, and was assigned to it because even this tabloid's journalists refused to put their name on it, and that this first time writer was a staffer for Hannity before, and two primary sources for the story were those great unbiased folks: Stephen Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.

You have to admit, this is a bad start.

But lets say this is story is indeed true, and is strong, and the media is ignoring it, and the public is callous. Not every story has to gain media attention to lead to justice. The story alleges bribery in exchange of influencing US foreign policy (removal of prosecutor)

2. There is nothing stopping someone like Giuliani, who has direct access to pretty much everybody, to request the Attorney General to investigate the bribery. Bribery is a federal crime. The Statute of Limitations is 5 years. The punishment can be prison. The incident occurred in 2016. Trump has been calling Barr to investigate forever. Yet Barr, who has hardly been shy to heed Trump's call, did not do so.

What does that tell you?

3. But lets say there was not enough provable evidence for a criminal inquiry. In today's partisan times, there is nothing preventing a Senator asking for an inquiry in the R dominated senate, and ensuring that a Senate committee looks at the issue again. Remember it already has without any charges or indictment or grand jury. This ensures that the story stays in the limelight at a critical time at worst and possibly leads to a damning conclusion later.

That didn't happen either!

4. So you now have to asks, who benefits from this story never sinking into oblivion, yet never rising to the level of official investigation by government agencies, civil or criminal?

Then you might have the answers you seek.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
Ok lets look at this logically.

1. Source: You then surely know that the Post is a tabloid, that the person who wrote the story had never written a story before, and was assigned to it because even this tabloid's journalists refused to put their name on it, and that this first time writer was a staffer for Hannity before, and two primary sources for the story were those great unbiased folks: Stephen Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.

You have to admit, this is a bad start.

But lets say this is story is indeed true, and is strong, and the media is ignoring it, and the public is callous. Not every story has to gain media attention to lead to justice. The story alleges bribery in exchange of influencing US foreign policy (removal of prosecutor)

2. There is nothing stopping someone like Giuliani, who has direct access to pretty much everybody, to request the Attorney General to investigate the bribery. Bribery is a federal crime. The Statute of Limitations is 5 years. The punishment can be prison. The incident occurred in 2016. Trump has been calling Barr to investigate forever. Yet Barr, who has hardly been shy to heed Trump's call, did not do so.

What does that tell you?

3. But lets say there was not enough provable evidence for a criminal inquiry. In today's partisan times, there is nothing preventing a Senator asking for an inquiry in the R dominated senate, and ensuring that a Senate committee looks at the issue again. Remember it already has without any charges or indictment or grand jury. This ensures that the story stays in the limelight at a critical time at worst and possibly leads to a damning conclusion later.

That didn't happen either!

4. So you now have to asks, who benefits from this story never sinking into oblivion, yet never rising to the level of official investigation by government agencies, civil or criminal?

Then you might have the answers you seek.

- PT21



Great argument....who’s the bigger crook ? The Biden fiasco is probably not illegal but really points to the moral superiority he ran on. There has been no denial or explanation. Had it been a Trump kid doing this it probably would have led to an impeachment trial. Oh and is it official enough the FBI is looking at the situation that the drug addicted son of the soon to be president has gotten himself in to .....never mind CNN doesn’t give you these updates...
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
Hahahaha.

It has! And was dismissed! However, your boy's legal troubles are just beginning.

Let's start with some civil suits! Then move on to any criminal aspects of his regime.

It's a good thing he never instructed the FBI to halt investigations into his own dealings.....or appointed a family member to a public position.....or has extended his personal ine of credit further than Britain in WWI (hint, that was really, really big)

- DrMidnite


No it hasn't been dismissed. There is an open FBI investigation.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 4 @ 8:56 PM ET
Great argument....who’s the bigger crook ? The Biden fiasco is probably not illegal but really points to the moral superiority he ran on. There has been no denial or explanation. Had it been a Trump kid doing this it probably would have led to an impeachment trial. Oh and is it official enough the FBI is looking at the situation that the drug addicted son of the soon to be president has gotten himself in to .....never mind CNN doesn’t give you these updates...

- landros 2


Joking and sarcasm aside, since there is an FBI investigation, why not wait for it to run its course?

And about the Trump kids. They run the Trump organization, which owns property where foreign visitors stay when meeting with Trump. Trump has no day to day control now but can just as easily go back to it and resume operation and benefit from any money spent and accrued there.

All it would take is a single act of policy by the entire US administration that impacts the dignitary country shortly after such a visit to validate a similar charge of bribery then?

EDIT: Btw, nice mimicry.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 8:57 PM ET
No it hasn't been dismissed. There is an open FBI investigation.
- MJL


Do you know what Hunter Bidens Incriminating laptop, Santa Clause & the Easter Bunny have in common?

If you don't? Kick rocks. You are a fool or a liar. Whatever you want.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 4 @ 9:02 PM ET
Ok lets look at this logically.

1. Source: You then surely know that the Post is a tabloid, that the person who wrote the story had never written a story before, and was assigned to it because even this tabloid's journalists refused to put their name on it, and that this first time writer was a staffer for Hannity before, and two primary sources for the story were those great unbiased folks: Stephen Bannon and Rudy Giuliani.

You have to admit, this is a bad start.


- PT21


You're talking like a fool. The Post is not a tabloid, it is a legitimate newspaper. Everything written in the story was supported by an eyewitness who has documentation and evidence of everything. Including emails not generated by him but generated by the Bidens and their associates. The evidence is irrefutable.



But lets say this is story is indeed true, and is strong, and the media is ignoring it, and the public is callous. Not every story has to gain media attention to lead to justice. The story alleges bribery in exchange of influencing US foreign policy (removal of prosecutor)


- PT21


Not let's not say the media is ignoring it, they are. Facebook and Twitter were just called to testify on Capital Hill on why they blocked a legitimate new story. You're also showing how you are uninformed. This is not about the removal of the prosecutor in the Ukraine. This is about a sitting VP, his brother and his son selling access to the VP of the United States for millions of dollars. Including being in bed with the members of the communist Chinese party.


2. There is nothing stopping someone like Giuliani, who has direct access to pretty much everybody, to request the Attorney General to investigate the bribery. Bribery is a federal crime. The Statute of Limitations is 5 years. The punishment can be prison. The incident occurred in 2016. Trump has been calling Barr to investigate forever. Yet Barr, who has hardly been shy to heed Trump's call, did not do so.


- PT21


There is an open FBI investigation on this matter.



What does that tell you?


- PT21


It tells me that you don't have a clue.



3. But lets say there was not enough provable evidence for a criminal inquiry. In today's partisan times, there is nothing preventing a Senator asking for an inquiry in the R dominated senate, and ensuring that a Senate committee looks at the issue again. Remember it already has without any charges or indictment or grand jury. This ensures that the story stays in the limelight at a critical time at worst and possibly leads to a damning conclusion later.



That didn't happen either!


- PT21


Again, you're uninformed. Numerous senators including Ron Johnson, Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee has called for a special counsel to look into the Biden dealings.



4. So you now have to asks, who benefits from this story never sinking into oblivion, yet never rising to the level of official investigation by government agencies, civil or criminal?

Then you might have the answers you seek.

- PT21


It has risen to the level that you say it hasn't. You are ridiculously uninformed.

When are you going to start looking at it logically. How can somebody who is obviously living under a rock with blinders on say that while being so wrong to make himself look like a complete imbecile.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 4 @ 9:04 PM ET
Do you know what Hunter Bidens Incriminating laptop, Santa Clause & the Easter Bunny have in common?

If you don't? Kick rocks. You are a fool or a liar. Whatever you want.

- DrMidnite


You have the thought process of a 2 year old. That imaginary laptop is in the possession of the FBI. A number of others, also have a copy of the hard drive from it.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 9:11 PM ET
You have the thought process of a 2 year old. That imaginary laptop is in the possession of the FBI. A number of others, also have a copy of the hard drive from it.
- MJL


Oh, of course.

They are biding their time just waiting to pounce on the existential threat of a Father/Pedophile/child-trafficking/ President-Elect

For the opportune moment. Of course.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 4 @ 9:13 PM ET
Oh, of course.

They are biding their time just waiting to pounce on the existential threat of a Father/Pedophile/child-trafficking/ President-Elect

For the opportune moment. Of course.

- DrMidnite


Ah the good old Post.

landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 4 @ 9:15 PM ET
Joking and sarcasm aside, since there is an FBI investigation, why not wait for it to run its course?

And about the Trump kids. They run the Trump organization, which owns property where foreign visitors stay when meeting with Trump. Trump has no day to day control now but can just as easily go back to it and resume operation and benefit from any money spent and accrued there.

All it would take is a single act of policy by the entire US administration that impacts the dignitary country shortly after such a visit to validate a similar charge of bribery then?

EDIT: Btw, nice mimicry.

- PT21


Again , pointing to one indiscretion from one doesn’t give acceptance for another. The media’s continued ignoring of this situation really showed that there really isn’t real journalism left ....you know when someone reports the news instead of giving me their personal spin....the best part of the Biden victory for me is I can again watch CNN. I couldn’t watch Fox when Obama was president and I couldn’t watch CNN the last 4 years either....the negativity is draining. Not being American I always kinda cheer for your president (republican or democrat) and hope he does a good job, because to me it’s a world issue ....that he does a good job.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 4 @ 9:16 PM ET
Ah the good old Post.


- PT21


They were 99th runner up for every pulitzer since their inception.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Nov 4 @ 9:17 PM ET
Ah the good old Post.


- PT21



If I was the richest guy in the world I’d show my pecker too.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 4 @ 9:21 PM ET
Again , pointing to one indiscretion from one doesn’t give acceptance for another. The media’s continued ignoring of this situation really showed that there really isn’t real journalism left ....you know when someone reports the news instead of giving me their personal spin....the best part of the Biden victory for me is I can again watch CNN. I couldn’t watch Fox when Obama was president and I couldn’t watch CNN the last 4 years either....the negativity is draining. Not being American I always kinda cheer for your president (republican or democrat) and hope he does a good job, because to me it’s a world issue ....that he does a good job.
- landros 2


So, why don't we wait for these official processes to conclude before we decide to impart our judgment rather than the other way around? I just don't see the point of engaging in these wildly speculative enterprises beforehand. Aren't there other issues we should be judging the merits of a candidate about?

Do you remember Steve Forbes? Who actually ran during the Republican primary? When the party was more mainstream?

Here is what Forbes, his paper, hardly a left wing mouthpiece, had to say about the non-coverage:

https://www.forbes.com/si...not-bias/?sh=222b64559c41
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