The strategy of shrieking "racist" constantly isn't (frank)ing working.
- Leafs43

It seems to encourage half the country

Indications from media that Biden gets Wisconsin but I can't find an official call on it yet..
- TheMussel

How many seats or whatever is Wisconsin?

How many seats or whatever is Wisconsin?
- GreatGigInTheSky

10 iirc

I see reports biden has wi also

How many seats or whatever is Wisconsin?
- GreatGigInTheSky

Winner gets a cheese hat.

Biden just needs to keep the states he leading in - Nevada, Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin. Michigan he’s going to win for sure. He’s ahead and the one area with lots to come in is Detroit and they’re using a very fair NHL lottery system.

How many seats or whatever is Wisconsin?
- GreatGigInTheSky

electoral college votes

Winner gets a cheese hat.

Biden just needs to keep the states he leading in - Nevada, Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin. Michigan he’s going to win for sure. He’s ahead and the one area with lots to come in is Detroit and they’re using a very fair NHL lottery system.
- Chunga’s Revenge

Nevada is still very much a toss up if I'm not mistaken, narrow margin, only 67% of vote reported, and no interim updates until tomorrow

Win or lose.
Almost half the people down south wanted 4 more years of this coward traitor.

That's pathetic

Nevada is still very much a toss up if I'm not mistaken, narrow margin, only 67% of vote reported, and no interim updates until tomorrow
- TheMussel

Yeah. They allow votes that are mailed yesterday but Biden is getting more mail votes especially from Vegas where I think someone said most are coming from.

Also, Oregon just decriminalized all drugs including coke, meth, heroin for personal use.

Win or lose.
Almost half the people down south wanted 4 more years of this coward traitor.

That's pathetic
- Fakepartofme

65 million Drexel’s

Win or lose.
Almost half the people down south wanted 4 more years of this coward traitor.

That's pathetic
- Fakepartofme

Agreed. Not surprising though.

Yeah. They allow votes that are mailed yesterday but Biden is getting more mail votes especially from Vegas where I think someone said most are coming from.

Also, Oregon just decriminalized all drugs including coke, meth, heroin for personal use.
- Chunga’s Revenge

Good for Oregon, though I expect a big hullabaloo about it on the Federal level

Actually I take that back... if they don't have a plan to address drug use with medical, psychiatric and counseling services then could be bad

Good for Oregon, though I expect a big hullabaloo about it on the Federal level

Actually I take that back... if they don't have a plan to address drug use with medical, psychiatric and counseling services then could be bad
- TheMussel

I imagine they do. It’s just that the criminal justice system is really badly equipped to deal with those issues

I imagine they do. It’s just that the criminal justice system is really badly equipped to deal with those issues
- Chunga’s Revenge

Curious to know how that would mesh with the idea of private medical insurance

Win or lose.
Almost half the people down south wanted 4 more years of this coward traitor.

That's pathetic
- Fakepartofme

The options moving forward are to:

1) Attempt to understand why they voted that way, and to try to change the democratic platform to alleviate the concerns that would result in someone voting for Trump.

2) Assume you already know why they voted that way - and call them racist.

I think the strategy should be option 1.

Nevada is still very much a toss up if I'm not mistaken, narrow margin, only 67% of vote reported, and no interim updates until tomorrow
- TheMussel

Ya, and Nevada accepts ballots until Nov 10th. If it stays close, and PA goes to Trump, this could drag into next week. And that's without considering the legal battles that have already begun.

Something like 265 Biden and 247 Trump at the end of the night with PA and Nevada to come ...maybe.

Nevada is still very much a toss up if I'm not mistaken, narrow margin, only 67% of vote reported, and no interim updates until tomorrow
- TheMussel

Out of over 1.1 million votes counted Bidens lead is in the 8 thousand range, with over 30% of remaining votes still to be counted. Nevada is very much a wildcard.

Indications from media that Biden gets Wisconsin but I can't find an official call on it yet..
- TheMussel

It's not looking good for Agent Orange.

Out of over 1.1 million votes counted Bidens lead is in the 8 thousand range, with over 30% of remaining votes still to be counted. Nevada is very much a wildcard.
- joel878

Except the outstanding votes are primarily mail-ins and Las Vegas...

It doesn't look good for Red.

The options moving forward are to:

1) Attempt to understand why they voted that way, and to try to change the democratic platform to alleviate the concerns that would result in someone voting for Trump.

2) Assume you already know why they voted that way - and call them racist.

I think the strategy should be option 1.
- Leafs43

Oh I'm sure they know why Trump saw increases in Miami Dade and in amongst the middle-class swing vote in 16' and 20'. Economic policies ..rightly or wrongly he's been successful at creating the 'socialist' narrative around Biden/Clinton. High taxes, cuts to big business (oil), and more green all drives fear of smaller pay cheques today. Most people don't/can't care about more than today.

He found 200k extra Cuban and Venezuelan votes in Miami to ensure FLA was won.

The same narrative locked up Ohio and if he wins PA it'll be the reason he does there as well.

The options moving forward are to:

1) Attempt to understand why they voted that way, and to try to change the democratic platform to alleviate the concerns that would result in someone voting for Trump.

2) Assume you already know why they voted that way - and call them racist.

I think the strategy should be option 1.
- Leafs43

Bottom line is that 65 million people voted for someone who spent four years implementing racist policies. Neither party has done much for them but Republicans have turned (frank)ing them over into an art. Trump just made it ok to blame a bunch of
brown and black people for those problems.

Except the outstanding votes are primarily mail-ins and Las Vegas...

It doesn't look good for Red.
- Aetherial

Yup, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada seal it for Biden and all 3 seem to be going his way.

But trump said it's over and he already won so who knows. 🤷‍♂️

The options moving forward are to:

1) Attempt to understand why they voted that way, and to try to change the democratic platform to alleviate the concerns that would result in someone voting for Trump.

2) Assume you already know why they voted that way - and call them racist.

I think the strategy should be option 1.
- Leafs43

And on the flip side if you're the REP you look at why he might lose.

Losing Arizona likely due to his comments and policy on Mexico and the Dreamers. If it goes that way does the party ask was that 50' of fence worth that loss?

And I'm less sure what the analysis might show about Wisconsin and Michigan if he loses there. Black vote? So was his stance on BLM what cost him there if it goes that way?

Bottom line is that 65 million people voted for someone who spent four years implementing racist policies. Neither party has done much for them but Republicans have turned (frank)ing them over into an art. Trump just made it ok to blame a bunch of
brown and black people for those problems.
- Chunga’s Revenge

Reality is trump made it okay to racist again and that mentality still jives with a lot of Americans.

And on the flip side if you're the REP you look at why he might lose.

Losing Arizona likely due to his comments and policy on Mexico and the Dreamers. If it goes that way does the party ask was that 50' of fence worth that loss?

And I'm less sure what the analysis might show about Wisconsin and Michigan if he loses there. Black vote? So was his stance on BLM what cost him there if it goes that way?
- The Law

Not fully cashing on his trade promises will be what gets him in Wisconsin and Michigan.

Bottom line is that 65 million people voted for someone who spent four years implementing racist policies. Neither party has done much for them but Republicans have turned (frank)ing them over into an art. Trump just made it ok to blame a bunch of
brown and black people for those problems.
- Chunga’s Revenge

So it appears you like option 2 then.

I think it's a losing strategy. But go off.