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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
If you haven’t , check out jimmy on his blog about the Leafs. Google James Tanner Toronto. He literally is absolutely hated. Usually 300 people just crushing him. Must suck to be hated in 2 countries
- Angus4444

I don’t understand how posting a chart and saying player A is bad because of this chart is considered journalism. By all means use stats and whatnot but there’s got to be some substance to your writing.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Nov 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
Yep. People forget his physical presence. Dude was tall, but not necessarily the tallest, but just thick, and fast, and talented.

Have not seen anyone like him since. Maybe never will

- DrMidnite

I always look at the YouTube vids of 88. Just a freak of nature. I also couldn’t believe the number of people he beat the snot out of
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
I said closest, which can still be far away.

You gotta vote today, Wedgie.

- PT21

I'm ineligible to vote in Hockeybuzz polls due to my numerous criminal convictions.

Lindros was unique - nobody I've watched play has ever had that much physicality to go with that much skill (I only remember G. Howe as a Whaler).

You might find some comparables as defencemen - Pronger, Robinson, Stevens.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
Lindros was more fun to watch.
- Atomic Wedgie


I think I lean that way, as well. It's a really tough call, though.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Nov 3 @ 4:46 PM ET
I don’t understand how posting a chart and saying player A is bad because of this chart is considered journalism. By all means use stats and whatnot but there’s got to be some substance to your writing.
- ClaudeFather

Reading his crap is exhausting. He just regurgitating old articles and people constantly call him out. There is always a few commentators who’s comments are better than the actual article.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:48 PM ET
I'm ineligible to vote in Hockeybuzz polls due to my numerous criminal convictions.

Lindros was unique - nobody I've watched play has ever had that much physicality to go with that much skill (I only remember G. Howe as a Whaler).

You might find some comparables as defencemen - Pronger, Robinson, Stevens.

- Atomic Wedgie




Hockeybuzz does have to maintain its standards! But if you were in many states in the US, they now allow felons to vote. Why not? Dead people vote here all the time.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
Reading his crap is exhausting. He just regurgitating old articles and people constantly call him out. There is always a few commentators who’s comments are better than the actual article.
- Angus4444


I see the name and scroll right on by. Not worth the pixels he uses to type.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 4:53 PM ET
Never saw a red hat burning, assaulting, looting, etc
- Angus4444


No, just trying to kidnap/murder the governor of MI.

Or surrounding and terrorizing opposing campaign bus.

But yeah, the limited rioters were the entire left.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
Never saw a red hat burning, assaulting, looting, etc
- Angus4444


There is a very long history of right wing wacko (including Waco) violence in this country. Tim McVeigh alone killed more people than all anarchists in the past 30 years. More recently, remember the woman who was run over at Charlottesville?

And those guys who loot/burn etc are no more representative of leftists than Al Qaeda is of Islam. Usually they are just criminal low life that use protests as a fig leaf, or anarchists, who actually dont vote at all.

Switch off Fox News, grow a brain, and then tell me who comes closest to Lindros today.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
I always look at the YouTube vids of 88. Just a freak of nature. I also couldn’t believe the number of people he beat the snot out of
- Angus4444


My dad took me to his first Flyers preseason game (against Quebec!) And regular season against Devils.

Closest thing I can compare seeing him in perspective with everyone else was Shaq.

Embiid more recently to a lesser extent.

He was just HUGE. And he had skill. It was really inspiring and sad in retrospect.

Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
No, just trying to kidnap/murder the governor of MI.

Or surrounding and terrorizing opposing campaign bus.

But yeah, the limited rioters were the entire left.

- DrMidnite


The so-called MI governor kidnappers were leftist anarchists and Trump haters. Look it up.

The TX Trump supporters were escorting the Biden bus on it's way out of the state. No one was hurt. No violence threatened or happened. Just a friendly escort.

Enough of the politics. Stop spreading falsehoods. I think most of us are sick of it at this point. Happy to debate hockey stuff.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
My dad took me to his first Flyers preseason game (against Quebec!) And regular season against Devils.

Closest thing I can compare seeing him in perspective with everyone else was Shaq.

Embiid more recently to a lesser extent.

He was just HUGE. And he had skill. It was really inspiring and sad in retrospect.

- DrMidnite


First Flyers game I went to I saw Gretzky play. He wasn't big or fast, but he was just waaayyyy smarter than everyone else on the ice and it showed. I think he had 3 points that game.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 5:01 PM ET


Hockeybuzz does have to maintain its standards! But if you were in many states in the US, they now allow felons to vote. Why not? Dead people vote here all the time.

- Letterkenney


Why shouldn't felons be allowed to vote?

And give it a rest about the dead people voting theory, will ya? Study after study has shown it is rare, and also bipartisan. Does it happen? Sure. There should be greater safety mechanisms which take care to not make people feel deterred.

But there is almost no evidence it is a large factor in determining outcomes.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 5:02 PM ET
The so-called MI governor kidnappers were leftist anarchists and Trump haters. Look it up.

The TX Trump supporters were escorting the Biden bus on it's way out of the state. No one was hurt. No violence threatened or happened. Just a friendly escort.

Enough of the politics. Stop spreading falsehoods. I think most of us are sick of it at this point. Happy to debate hockey stuff.

- Letterkenney


Excuse me, 'Boogaloos' arent leftists.

Nice try.

And sure, an unsolicited escort where they were shouting profanities.

You are a fool and a liar. I don't want to dialog with you. So back off.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Nov 3 @ 5:07 PM ET
Excuse me, 'Boogaloos' arent leftists.

Nice try.

And sure, an unsolicited escort where they were shouting profanities.

You are a fool and a liar. I don't want to dialog with you. So back off.

- DrMidnite


Best to just ignore it. Especially on a day like today.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
The so-called MI governor kidnappers were leftist anarchists and Trump haters. Look it up.

The TX Trump supporters were escorting the Biden bus on it's way out of the state. No one was hurt. No violence threatened or happened. Just a friendly escort.

Enough of the politics. Stop spreading falsehoods. I think most of us are sick of it at this point. Happy to debate hockey stuff.

- Letterkenney

I'm hoping this is a joke, because otherwise, wow.



Please tell me you are joking.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 5:18 PM ET
The so-called MI governor kidnappers were leftist anarchists and Trump haters. Look it up.

The TX Trump supporters were escorting the Biden bus on it's way out of the state. No one was hurt. No violence threatened or happened. Just a friendly escort.

Enough of the politics. Stop spreading falsehoods. I think most of us are sick of it at this point. Happy to debate hockey stuff.

- Letterkenney


The Michigan were Boogaloo anti-lockdown nutjobs some of whom were worried about the US becoming a communist state, deep state, loss of 2nd amendment rights and so on. There are 100 places that document this. The text messages and videos of them are everywhere. Some leftists, huh?

Nobody asked the Biden bus to be escorted. If they did, vigilantes would not be the ones asked. And if they were serving as an escort, there would be no need to bump cars from one lane to another, as happened.

And of course, there would be no need for the "law and order" President to praise them.

You sir, are a clown.



hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
The so-called MI governor kidnappers were leftist anarchists and Trump haters. Look it up.

The TX Trump supporters were escorting the Biden bus on it's way out of the state. No one was hurt. No violence threatened or happened. Just a friendly escort.

Enough of the politics. Stop spreading falsehoods. I think most of us are sick of it at this point. Happy to debate hockey stuff.

- Letterkenney

Jesus, dude.
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:45 PM ET
G-Clarke-Kerr (Big E and Johnny LeClair were close 2nds)
Pronger-Desjardin (and Mark Howe was right behind Pronger)
Pelle (took him over Bernie cuz I chose Clarke at #1C )
section32
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Raleigh, NC
Joined: 02.15.2007

Nov 3 @ 5:50 PM ET
Shelley/Daigle/Zherdev
R. Jones/A, Lilja
Bryzgalov

- PLindbergh31

Money.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 3 @ 5:58 PM ET
Best to just ignore it. Especially on a day like today.
- StepfordSam



I still think you're more likely to be Bill's alter ego account, not MJL.

Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Nov 3 @ 5:58 PM ET
Jesus, dude.
- hereticpride

Here, let me you a hand:

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Nov 3 @ 6:20 PM ET
There is a very long history of right wing wacko (including Waco) violence in this country. Tim McVeigh alone killed more people than all anarchists in the past 30 years. More recently, remember the woman who was run over at Charlottesville?

And those guys who loot/burn etc are no more representative of leftists than Al Qaeda is of Islam. Usually they are just criminal low life that use protests as a fig leaf, or anarchists, who actually dont vote at all.

Switch off Fox News, grow a brain, and then tell me who comes closest to Lindros today.

- PT21


Seriously. Everyone sucks so bad that the level of holier than thou ignorance on the hardliners of each side has long since surpassed nauseating. Team asteroid all of the way because it’s what is deserved at this point.

The Malkin suggestion has some merit. Malkin has the body to blend the size with over the top skill, but the mentality is completely different. Malkin can go after and engage when Hes pissy. Lindros indiscriminately punished simply because you were there. Ovechkin brings some of that, but with less overall skill/center ability, obviously
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Nov 3 @ 6:22 PM ET
Never saw a red hat burning, assaulting, looting, etc
- Angus4444



They were too busy being racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and xenophobic to burn, assault, and loot.
Shrike
Joined: 05.20.2016

Nov 3 @ 6:33 PM ET
I understand how great Lindros was and how loved he was. I loved that guy too. But Bobby Clarke IS the Flyers. If you, as a flyers fan, imagine your perfect hockey player, Bobby Clarke would be better. Eric Lindros was the basically a bigger faster more talented Bobby Clarke but Clarke is still better than big E. Voting for anyone but Clarke is the surest indicator that the voter didn’t get to watch the 70’s to early 80’s Flyers.
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