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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 2:33 PM ET
In hindsight I find it weird people refer to Lindros being whiny about his head injuries. He ended up being completely right.
- hereticpride


It was awful. I feel culpable being pissed about it. He should have never came back in the 2000 season.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 2:49 PM ET
It was awful. I feel culpable being pissed about it. He should have never came back in the 2000 season.
- DrMidnite


Makes you wonder how many times Lindros played when he was in a complete fog.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
Lindros was ruined by the rules back then.

All things being equal, and you put a 23 year old Lindros and Forsberg in the league now? I don't think Forsberg can do what Lindros was capable of.

I'm am NOT saying Peter was bad in any way, but Lindros was a freak.

He could honestly be a positionless player on the ice.

Put him anywhere with that shot, speed, size and IQ.

Edit: before you say Forsberg played in the same period? There were rules for Lindros, then everyone else. Just like Shaq, you could have called a penalty on the opposition almost every time he was out there.

- DrMidnite


#88 today would see a lot of stuff like he faced in the 97 Finals. LOD was stymied by clockwork defensive support and stick checks. Size doesn't confer the same kind of advantages that it used to when play was a lot more 1v1 and you could physically impede and interfere in the ozone.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Nov 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
Not that there is a big difference but #21 was not better than #88 here, sorry.
- MJL


Talking overall career-wise. Foppa was great in so many ways... one of the most physical, skilled, intelligent and dominant competitors of all time.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 3:02 PM ET
#88 today would see a lot of stuff like he faced in the 97 Finals. LOD was stymied by clockwork defensive support and stick checks. Size doesn't confer the same kind of advantages that it used to when play was a lot more 1v1 and you could physically impede and interfere in the ozone.
- Tomahawk


No, the lack of obstruction rules just exacerbated the 'scheme' to stop him, which was to interfere in any way possible.

Clutching/holding/interfering was ok back then, now it is not. You make it sound like clockwork defense was performed by a team of all-stars. Gretzky & Lemieux has their rules because they were 'gentlemen' Lindros was a brash, dominant, physical and skillful prodigy.

He was just born 20 years too early.
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 3:05 PM ET
And just FYI to the Forsberg faction.

That CO team was LOADED. And he may not have even been the best player on their title team.

And they won 1 with him.

EDIT my mistake, it was 2 chips.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Nov 3 @ 3:11 PM ET
Talking overall career-wise. Foppa was great in so many ways... one of the most physical, skilled, intelligent and dominant competitors of all time.
- Tomahawk


Both at their peak were fantastic players. It's a matter of personal judgement who was better.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 3:18 PM ET
Talking overall career-wise. Foppa was great in so many ways... one of the most physical, skilled, intelligent and dominant competitors of all time.
- Tomahawk


Yes to intelligence, especially to how good a reader of the game he was. In my opinion, the best player I have seen in the past 25 years in orange and black.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Nov 3 @ 3:26 PM ET
Hey, Wayne Stephenson can say that he was in goal when they beat the Soviet Red Team and carried the main share of the goal tending during the 75-76 season - another Cup run. Of course he isn't as flashy as a bunch of other names on that list, but it is fun being nostalgic.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 3 @ 3:31 PM ET
Just stopping in to say that Trump is garbage and his supporters are no better than Nazi Collaborators and that Hockeybuzz is too cowardly to stand up for what is right because it makes almost all its money selling ads to mid-40s right wing losers who haven't got laid since the 90s.
- James_Tanner

(frank) you tanner
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Nov 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
#88 today would see a lot of stuff like he faced in the 97 Finals. LOD was stymied by clockwork defensive support and stick checks. Size doesn't confer the same kind of advantages that it used to when play was a lot more 1v1 and you could physically impede and interfere in the ozone.
- Tomahawk


Lindros would ride roughshod over this league today. He would draw hooking and slashing penalties that dwarf the (un)intentional walk numbers Barry Bonds got in his juicing heyday
DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Nov 3 @ 3:48 PM ET
Lindros would ride roughshod over this league today. He would draw hooking and slashing penalties that dwarf the (un)intentional walk numbers Barry Bonds got in his juicing heyday
- KINGKENZO


Yep. People forget his physical presence. Dude was tall, but not necessarily the tallest, but just thick, and fast, and talented.

Have not seen anyone like him since. Maybe never will

therabbi
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Joined: 10.14.2020

Nov 3 @ 3:51 PM ET
Flyer fan since Broadstreet Bullies all the way through, and I still think Peter Forsberg belongs with Clarke and Lindros in the top centers options (and is their equal). Certainly belongs in the options way above Richards and (hilariously) Carter.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 4:02 PM ET
Which player playing now is the closest in style to Lindros?

For me, Getzlaf (size, physicality,skating, though less skill I would say) and Malkin (size, skill, hands, though not the key trait of physicality of course) come to mind.




SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Nov 3 @ 4:13 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Election Day: Choose Your All-Time Flyers Starting Lineup
- bmeltzer


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Timonen-Pronger
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 4:23 PM ET
Both at their peak were fantastic players. It's a matter of personal judgement who was better.
- Letterkenney

Lindros was more fun to watch.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 3 @ 4:25 PM ET
Which player playing now is the closest in style to Lindros?

For me, Getzlaf (size, physicality,skating, though less skill I would say) and Malkin (size, skill, hands, though not the key trait of physicality of course) come to mind.

- PT21

Lindros punished people.

Neither of those guys does that.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Nov 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
Just stopping in to say that Trump is garbage and his supporters are no better than Nazi Collaborators and that Hockeybuzz is too cowardly to stand up for what is right because it makes almost all its money selling ads to mid-40s right wing losers who haven't got laid since the 90s.
- James_Tanner

He who screams the loudest. Keep banging drugs , it’ll be ok.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Nov 3 @ 4:26 PM ET
Which player playing now is the closest in style to Lindros?

For me, Getzlaf (size, physicality,skating, though less skill I would say) and Malkin (size, skill, hands, though not the key trait of physicality of course) come to mind.

- PT21

Jamie benn, a couple of years ago
Dak prescott's ankle
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.16.2020

Nov 3 @ 4:31 PM ET
One of them is a 3-time league MVP and a 2-time Stanley Cup champion (of which he was captain), the other while great, isn’t.
- RealBige

That is true, but that early to mid 79a flyers hockey team was stacked so cumulatively it was a group effort. We ran into a red wings dynasty the year we got so close.
Regardless, lindros was dominant and would still be dominant in the league today if he wa young again. Dude was a hoss
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 4:32 PM ET
Lindros punished people.

Neither of those guys does that.

- Atomic Wedgie


I said closest, which can still be far away.

You gotta vote today, Wedgie.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Nov 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
Jamie benn, a couple of years ago
- ClaudeFather


Ok forgot him. Didnt see much physicality from him this playoffs though.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Nov 3 @ 4:33 PM ET
What a loser Tanner is haha! Well done everyone
- ClaudeFather

If you haven’t , check out jimmy on his blog about the Leafs. Google James Tanner Toronto. He literally is absolutely hated. Usually 300 people just crushing him. Must suck to be hated in 2 countries
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Nov 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
Rioters are no more representative of Joe's supporters than the mouth-breathing Proud Boys are of Trump.

Are you comfortable with that comparison?

Right, I didnt think so.

Political discussion doesn't have to devolve to buffoons trading insults.

- PT21

Never saw a red hat burning, assaulting, looting, etc
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Nov 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
Which player playing now is the closest in style to Lindros?

For me, Getzlaf (size, physicality,skating, though less skill I would say) and Malkin (size, skill, hands, though not the key trait of physicality of course) come to mind.

- PT21

Man that’s tough to say. No one just dominates that way anymore. Thornton in his prime maybe played a bit similar. I really can’t think of anyone current.

Eric Staal in his prime comes to mind as well.
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