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fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 7:52 PM ET
Polls are being misrepresented to show Biden leading easily so if Trump wins they can claim he cheated. If Biden was easily winning those states he’s be in Texas. But he isn’t.
- drexel

Wow. Just, wow.
Chunga’s Revenge
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The present day composer refuses to die - Edgar Varese
Joined: 10.28.2020

Oct 30 @ 7:53 PM ET
I guess it can go down as evidence to where one gets his info and perspective, because basically everything I read right about now says trump is in for an absolute pounding.

https://projects.fivethir...m/2020-election-forecast/

Even media external to the country has as much being the case.

https://www.google.com/am...election-us-2020-53657174

Let me revise my question. Even at bare minimum if we were to look at only the numbers you just posted, what about trump dropping damn near 10% points in pivotal states like Texas and Ohio, along with other critical states he relied on in 2016 like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc etc... Has you convinced he has a layup to his next term? Because the drop in popularity across the board seems to be the only thing that's widely accepted... How does that result in confidence on your end?

- joel878


Here are all the polls released in the past few days. Bottom line, Trump has a very narrow path to win. He can’t afford to lose many of the swing states he currently behind in.


https://twitter.com/nates.../1322277811592302594?s=12
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 7:53 PM ET
Polls are being misrepresented to show Biden leading easily so if Trump wins they can claim he cheated. If Biden was easily winning those states he’s be in Texas. But he isn’t.
- drexel


Me questioning as much was genuinely informational, but I do appreciate that it has resulted in easily the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.

Yes, the media is propping up a Biden cheating agenda all across the entire world as a what... Means of countering Trump and his own laying down the basis of this election being a fraud in case he loses every single time he opens his mouth?

Of all the states, why the (frank) would anyone expect Biden to be polling favourably in Texas?
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 7:54 PM ET
Wow. Just, wow.
- fifty__missions

Also. Cancel culture makes people lie to pollsters. Cripes they want to cancel Lil Wayne.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 7:55 PM ET
Me questioning as much was genuinely informational, but I do appreciate that it has resulted in easily the stupidest thing I've read in a long time.

Yes, the media is propping up a Biden cheating agenda all across the entire world as a what... Means of countering Trump and his own laying down the basis of this election being a fraud in case he loses every single time he opens his mouth?

Of all the states, why the (frank) would anyone expect Biden to be polling favourably in Texas?

- joel878

Maybe cause Texas is apparently close. If Biden won it it’s over. But he’s more worried about Minnesota and Wisconsin. Which according to posted stats. Are locks. You really aren’t that bright
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
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Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
don’t worry 👍

it’ll be gone on November 4👍🏿

- Skalapy

Have a safe tour!
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 7:58 PM ET
But wasn't that also the case in 2016?

I don't expect or want Trump to win again, but I wouldn't be confident one way or the other.

- Leafs43


Clinton was leading nationally in 2016, but nothing close to this big of a margin.

All the swing states were polling much closer in 2016 as well. Trump is generally seeing something close to a 10% drop in swing states across the board today.

Hence my original question. How can a Trump supporter possibly be looking at this situation as a slam dunk.

Thankfully I now know, the media worldwide has teamed up to fraud the polls so when trump wins the democrats can claim he cheated.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Oct 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Wow. Just, wow.
- fifty__missions


joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Maybe cause Texas is apparently close. If Biden won it it’s over. But he’s more worried about Minnesota and Wisconsin. Which according to posted stats. Are locks. You really aren’t that bright
- drexel


Of the 10 battleground states Biden is currently polling to win, 9 of them are outside of a % point.

They're all (frank)in locks, so if we are running with your dimwitted hillbilly logic, whys he worries about any of them?

drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
Of the 10 battleground states Biden is currently polling to win, 9 of them are outside of a % point.

They're all (frank)in locks, so if we are running with your dimwitted hillbilly logic, whys he worries about any of them?

- joel878

Polls are less accurate than your medical diagnoses.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 8:06 PM ET
Polls are less accurate than your medical diagnoses.
- drexel


Thanks for getting off your sister for two seconds to provide confirmation that you are consistent in your weird ass obsessions.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Maybe cause Texas is apparently close. If Biden won it it’s over. But he’s more worried about Minnesota and Wisconsin. Which according to posted stats. Are locks. You really aren’t that bright
- drexel

Well I'm glad that if Biden does win, it won't be you crying about a "rigged election". Or will you? Because we both know that's EXACTLY what bunkerbiitch Trump has already been doing, and will keep doing.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Wow. Just, wow.
- fifty__missions



He is pretty dumb.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
Thanks for getting off your sister for two seconds to provide confirmation that you are consistent in your weird ass obsessions.
- joel878

Giving her the night off. Broken jaw and all
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Oct 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
Clinton was leading nationally in 2016, but nothing close to this big of a margin.

All the swing states were polling much closer in 2016 as well. Trump is generally seeing something close to a 10% drop in swing states across the board today.

Hence my original question. How can a Trump supporter possibly be looking at this situation as a slam dunk.

Thankfully I now know, the media worldwide has teamed up to fraud the polls so when trump wins the democrats can claim he cheated.

- joel878


I believe Clinton was given about a 90% chance of winning in 2016. Biden's chances to win are similar percentage.

We will see, but I'm just saying I have seen this movie before and would not be confident in the outcome.

drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 8:09 PM ET
Well I'm glad that if Biden does win, you won't be crying about a "rigged election". Or will you? Because we both know that's EXACTLY what bunkerfemale dog has already been doing, and will keep doing.
- fifty__missions

Well. The ballots found in storage containers and garbage cans can lead some to jump to some conclusions I guess.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
I believe Clinton was given about a 90% chance of winning in 2016. Biden's chances to win are similar percentage.

We will see, but I'm just saying I have seen this movie before and would not be confident in the outcome.

- Leafs43



4 days before the election:

2016: Clinton +2.6%

2020: Biden +7.9%
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Oct 30 @ 8:10 PM ET
Well. The ballots found in storage containers and garbage cans can lead some to jump to some conclusions I guess.
- drexel

Source??
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Oct 30 @ 8:13 PM ET
Source??
- fifty__missions


Trump said it so it must be true. If we know anything about the guy we can rely on, it's that he's an honest straight shooter who's never lied about anything ever.
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
Trump said it so it must be true. If we know anything about the guy we can rely on, it's that he's an honest straight shooter who's never lied about anything ever.
- joel878

You hold Joe and his son to the same standards? Open DOJ investigations and all.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 30 @ 8:14 PM ET
Trump said it so it must be true. If we know anything about the guy we can rely on, it's that he's an honest straight shooter who's never lied about anything ever.
- joel878



No body in history has told better truths. Beautiful truths. Believe me.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Oct 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
You hold Joe and his son to the same standards? Open DOJ investigations and all.
- drexel



lol
drexel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Harvester of Sorrow, AB
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
Source??
- fifty__missions

The interwebs
Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.16.2010

Oct 30 @ 8:15 PM ET
4 days before the election:

2016: Clinton +2.6%

2020: Biden +7.9%

- Steven_Seagull


National polls are largely irrelevant to the chance of winning though. California is going blue, it doesn't matter if 15 million votes are cast for Biden or 20 million votes are cast for Biden, electoral votes will be the same.

The oddsmakers have Clinton/Biden as having a similar percentage chance of winning.

I will say that the pollsters got (frank)ing embarrassed in 2016 and I think they have adapted to ensure it doesn't happen again. I expect a Biden big win, I'm just not confident in that expectation given what happened in 2016.



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