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Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 29 @ 11:38 PM ET
Montour heading west coast potentially
- Beezer33


That’s kinda surprising that they would sign and trade him. Not hating it. Just find it interesting
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:50 PM ET
You still living in Vegas and what are they gonna do to get cap compliant
- Buff36

I'm here but I don't know about the Knights, that's a clown organization. I'll be coming home to Buffalo soon for a vacation.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 29 @ 11:54 PM ET
I'm here but I don't know about the Knights, that's a clown organization. I'll be coming home to Buffalo soon for a vacation.
- SABRES 89

Flying or Driving. Weather has been kinda poopty, supposed to be really bad for the game Sunday.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 29 @ 11:55 PM ET
Looks like the Bill's are about to sign Darron Lee if he passes his physical.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 29 @ 11:59 PM ET
Flying or Driving. Weather has been kinda poopty, supposed to be really bad for the game Sunday.
- Buff36

Flying but it won't be right now.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 30 @ 12:04 AM ET
Flying but it won't be right now.
- SABRES 89

You hear anything on this Calgary stuff.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 30 @ 12:07 AM ET
The Sabres embedded episode about hall was interesting. Pretty good stuff

The most interesting part was terry saying if we sign hall. We are trying to win a cup and all In sort of.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 30 @ 12:22 AM ET
You hear anything on this Calgary stuff.
- Buff36

No, just what I heard about Monahan,
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Oct 30 @ 12:35 AM ET
Atlanta Falcons piles of crap, kick/trip Bridgewater to the knee and then torpedo his neck both in the same play.
Wyohomeboy
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 11.18.2018

Oct 30 @ 12:39 AM ET
kaleta had 5 points in 12 playoff games


go figure the guy with no talent outproduced staff by a mile with a fraction of the ice time

- homiedclown

Rules change in the off season, but it continues to mistify management...since Drury and Briere, neither could handle opposing big centers when the whistles were put away.. and that was our best chance ever...should learn that you can't win the stanley with small fast speedy guys and no backbone
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 12:50 AM ET
Anyone for a goalie or LHD ?
- Wyohomeboy


One would assume those are on the checklist
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 12:52 AM ET
Trade Middlestadt, Hutton and a 6th for MAF ($2M retained)
- HenryHockey


Horrible idea
I wouldn’t take Fleury for free
He’s been declining for years now
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Oct 30 @ 1:00 AM ET
Horrible idea
I wouldn’t take Fleury for free
He’s been declining for years now

- jdfitz77


Wrong. Another beat take on your end.

The dude is a HoF goalie.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/f/fleurma01.html
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 1:10 AM ET
What's sam bennett cost straight up off the Sabres roster?
- Boss34


Girgs
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 1:13 AM ET
Olofsson
- DEDDIE


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That was a good one
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 1:19 AM ET
Wrong. Another beat take on your end.

The dude is a HoF goalie.

https://www.hockey-refere.../players/f/fleurma01.html

- 3rd GM's the charm


Doesn’t mean he’s still any good

Past 3years sv% with Vegas: .927 to .913 to .905
Past 3yrs GAA: 2.24, 2.51, 2.77

Fleury is clearly declining
Gotta do better than that
NEDinED
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.06.2013

Oct 30 @ 1:28 AM ET
Rules change in the off season, but it continues to mistify management...since Drury and Briere, neither could handle opposing big centers when the whistles were put away.. and that was our best chance ever...should learn that you can't win the stanley with small fast speedy guys and no backbone
- Wyohomeboy



What are you talking about Danny was money in playoffs?

https://bleacherreport.co...ff-scorers-in-nhl-history
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Oct 30 @ 2:06 AM ET
Doesn’t mean he’s still any good

Past 3years sv% with Vegas: .927 to .913 to .905
Past 3yrs GAA: 2.24, 2.51, 2.77

Fleury is clearly declining
Gotta do better than that

- jdfitz77

Certain parts bolded so you can read the post as if it's you own, but after this one I'm done with you.

I know you're NOT better than this but let me humor you

The team he plays on also has declined for 3 seasons straight. They went from one of the best defensive teams in hockey as well as being a scoring powerhouse, to being about as exciting offensively as the trap-era New Jersey Devils, all the while becoming completely suspect on defense.

MAF STILL MANAGED 8 SHUTOUTS LAST YEAR and FIVE SHUTOUTS THIS YEAR.

His "decline" has been wildly exaggerated by the same people who argue Cryin' Ryan Miller was an elite goalie. His last season in Pittsburgh was his literal ONLY bad season, and his only season where he posted above 3.00 GAA since his rookie year and the year post lockout, when he was 19 and 21 respectively - an age when most goalies aren't even SNIFFING the NHL, let alone the AHL - and even then it was hardly above 3.00 and his sv% was .909 - Pittsburgh was letting shots on net like it was nobody's business to play defense.

You also conveniently leave out the fact that goal scoring has also increased during the last 3 years.

Wow, crazy to think that as goal scoring has gone up to above 3.00 GA per game over the past 3 years from 2.97 per to 3.02 per game, his GAA has also gone up and still managed to stay well below the league average goals scored PER GAME.

All of this being said, the guy is 35 years old and has been playing in the NHL since he was 19 (frank)ing years old - Tell me how many other goalies played in the NHL as soon as they graduated High School and to the age of 35 and put up numbers as good as he has? I'll give you a hint - ONE of them is PATRICK ROY and his numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Fluery's and he played on an absolute POWERHOUSE AVALANCHE team to end his career.

The other is Martin Brodeur, and he played on a trap team and one of the best defensive teams in hockey history for almost his entire career and during the "dead" years of the NHL when scoring was at an all-time low. MAF played ONE season in the pre-lockout era as a 19-year old literal KID. Go look at Brodeur's sv% from the age of 35-on and you'll see that it was TRASH but his .GAA remained good because the TRAP SYSTEM.

SV% .GAA SO (CAREER)

.910 2.54 66 (ROY)
.913 2.57 61 (MAF)
.912 2.24 125 (BRODEUR)

MAF has played on some of the WORST defensive teams in NHL HISTORY and STILL PUT UP NUMBERS almost IDENTICAL TO ROY.

A slight decline over the past year could be argued, but you saying "MAF has been declining for years now" is complete and utter trash, but that's to be expected from you at this point because you're a drunk moron who talks out of his arse constantly and picks fights over literally everything, including nicknames for players and any time ANYONE posts an opinion, there you are ranting and raving at them and antagonizing them and wondering why the hell everyone tells you to go away and that you're a literal idiot.

Yes, I troll on here a lot, but it's because any time I post something hockey related and try to engage in some form of discussion, it's either ignored or some Trump-humping jaggoff turns it into some political non-sense because they don't know how to have a constructive argument, discussion or conversation without resorting to bullying tactics they learned in high school and can't seem to let go even at the age of god damn 60-something years old because they revel in the one time in their life where ANYONE liked them and they think people who want the citizens of this country to be taken care of by their government are the enemy instead of the greedy, sadistic (frank)S who run the god damn thing, now (frank) off.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 30 @ 2:24 AM ET
Certain parts bolded so you can read the post as if it's you own, but after this one I'm done with you.

I know you're NOT better than this but let me humor you

The team he plays on also has declined for 3 seasons straight. They went from one of the best defensive teams in hockey as well as being a scoring powerhouse, to being about as exciting offensively as the trap-era New Jersey Devils, all the while becoming completely suspect on defense.

MAF STILL MANAGED 8 SHUTOUTS LAST YEAR and FIVE SHUTOUTS THIS YEAR.

His "decline" has been wildly exaggerated by the same people who argue Cryin' Ryan Miller was an elite goalie. His last season in Pittsburgh was his literal ONLY bad season, and his only season where he posted above 3.00 GAA since his rookie year and the year post lockout, when he was 19 and 21 respectively - an age when most goalies aren't even SNIFFING the NHL, let alone the AHL - and even then it was hardly above 3.00 and his sv% was .909 - Pittsburgh was letting shots on net like it was nobody's business to play defense.

You also conveniently leave out the fact that goal scoring has also increased during the last 3 years.

Wow, crazy to think that as goal scoring has gone up to above 3.00 GA per game over the past 3 years from 2.97 per to 3.02 per game, his GAA has also gone up and still managed to stay well below the league average goals scored PER GAME.

All of this being said, the guy is 35 years old and has been playing in the NHL since he was 19 (frank)ing years old - Tell me how many other goalies played in the NHL as soon as they graduated High School and to the age of 35 and put up numbers as good as he has? I'll give you a hint - ONE of them is PATRICK ROY and his numbers are almost IDENTICAL to Fluery's and he played on an absolute POWERHOUSE AVALANCHE team to end his career.

The other is Martin Brodeur, and he played on a trap team and one of the best defensive teams in hockey history for almost his entire career and during the "dead" years of the NHL when scoring was at an all-time low. MAF played ONE season in the pre-lockout era as a 19-year old literal KID. Go look at Brodeur's sv% from the age of 35-on and you'll see that it was TRASH but his .GAA remained good because the TRAP SYSTEM.

SV% .GAA SO (CAREER)

.910 2.54 66 (ROY)
.913 2.57 61 (MAF)
.912 2.24 125 (BRODEUR)

MAF has played on some of the WORST defensive teams in NHL HISTORY and STILL PUT UP NUMBERS almost IDENTICAL TO ROY.

A slight decline over the past year could be argued, but you saying "MAF has been declining for years now" is complete and utter trash, but that's to be expected from you at this point because you're a drunk moron who talks out of his arse constantly and picks fights over literally everything, including nicknames for players and any time ANYONE posts an opinion, there you are ranting and raving at them and antagonizing them and wondering why the hell everyone tells you to go away and that you're a literal idiot.

Yes, I troll on here a lot, but it's because any time I post something hockey related and try to engage in some form of discussion, it's either ignored or some Trump-humping jaggoff turns it into some political non-sense because they don't know how to have a constructive argument, discussion or conversation without resorting to bullying tactics they learned in high school and can't seem to let go even at the age of god damn 60-something years old because they revel in the one time in their life where ANYONE liked them and they think people who want the citizens of this country to be taken care of by their government are the enemy instead of the greedy, sadistic (frank)S who run the god damn thing, now (frank) off.

- 3rd GM's the charm


Sure Beady....
it’s the uptick in league wide goal scoring that accounts for the numbers,
and NOT that he’s about to turn 36 & has declined

His career stats have NOTHING to do with how good he is NOW
U do realize that, don’t you?

And obviously Vegas saw Fleury declining,
and that’s why they traded for Lehner
They certainly didn’t think they could win with him last year, but he’ll be the right guy for us? 😂😂

Vegas even moved out good players this offseason so they could fit Lehner under their Cap going forward, so they wouldn’t have to rely on Fleury

I’m not saying Fleury sucks
But it also doesn’t make sense to acquire a 36 year old goalie with declining stats & play, AND a huge Cap hit
It’s a bad idea dude



And somehow I managed a response without the personal attacks u constantly hurl towards me
Give it a try sometime
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Oct 30 @ 3:28 AM ET
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Oct 30 @ 4:16 AM ET
I'm here but I don't know about the Knights, that's a clown organization. I'll be coming home to Buffalo soon for a vacation.
- SABRES 89




Have they not been Cup contenders for their entire existence?
Camel
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Sudbury, ON
Joined: 04.25.2009

Oct 30 @ 7:56 AM ET


Have they not been Cup contenders for their entire existence?

- Wetbandit1


I have no idea what the rest of the organizations would be called if this one is referred to as a clown
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Oct 30 @ 8:04 AM ET
The Sabres embedded episode about hall was interesting. Pretty good stuff

The most interesting part was terry saying if we sign hall. We are trying to win a cup and all In sort of.

- Sabretooth9


Terry is out of his mind if he thinks this is a Cup contending roster. I watched it and when he said that my eyes rolled.

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Oct 30 @ 8:11 AM ET


Have they not been Cup contenders for their entire existence?

- Wetbandit1

Obviously you have no idea what i'm talking about.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Oct 30 @ 8:13 AM ET
I'm not afraid to apply credit when it's due, and Embedded is cool.
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