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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
Kahun .5 PPG for his career
Girgensons .27 PPG for his career.

One of those guys is underpaid, one is overpaid.

- ImThatGuy

joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
Texans Defensive Ranks
32nd - Rush yds per play
31st - Rush yds per game
32nd - Interceptions

Texans Offensive Ranks
32nd - Rush yds game
32nd - Time of Possession

Deshaun Watson's ranks
1st - Avg yds per play
2nd - Passing yards
6th - Passer Rating

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Go back to bed Boss.

- Pegullaville



Flaccoville, teams with bad defenses (yards against) = qb with big passing yards. Kinda goes hand in hand.

Anybody else have Watson and herbert in the top 5 current qbs? Let's just ask around?


Taco had watson ranked 12th , I trust him.

Kc keeps winning with average qb play
400+ 5 passing tds

A good running game
50 yards rushing yesterday
Helaire led with 6 Carries for 21 yards

Got outrushed by the jets

And great defense:
Wow the held the jets to 9 points


Please tell me how kc won the game, without your brilliant only way to win formula?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
so he'd fit right in.

ba-dum-tissss

- ImThatGuy

nice
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:34 AM ET
They love him. I don't see Miami throwing away any building blocks.

I'd love him, though.

- TheSabresTaco


Good post

Seems like a Buffalo Bills guy, forgot the dolphins are pretending to push for a wild card
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Nov 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss

- Michael Pachla


They have a better Eichel making 3/5 of the salary? And a bunch of other contributors on ELC that the Sabres don't have? Therefore it's not apples to apples, and they currently have the room for this type of move. Valeri also got 8th in the Selke voting, while Girgs is good defensively, Val is elite (or at least was last year). Discussed.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 2 @ 10:36 AM ET
Flaccoville, teams with bad defenses (yards against) = qb with big passing yards. Kinda goes hand in hand.

Anybody else have Watson and herbert in the top 5 current qbs? Let's just ask around?


Taco had watson ranked 12th , I trust him.

Kc keeps winning with average qb play
400+ 5 passing tds

A good running game
50 yards rushing yesterday
Helaire led with 6 Carries for 21 yards

Got outrushed by the jets

And great defense:
Wow the held the jets to 9 points


Please tell me how kc won the game, without your brilliant only way to win formula?

- Boss34


The Chiefs beat the Broncos last week by 24 points and Mahomes threw for 200 yards and went 0/8 on 3rd downs.

That was probably the best defensive performance against Mahomes ever that got ruined because the Broncos spotted the Chiefs 14 points via kick return and INT touchdowns. The Chiefs did most of their damage on the ground against the Broncos.

The Chiefs beat the Bills the week before by running the ball down their throats and Mahomes made the plays when he had too.

Against the Jets he threw for 416 and 5 TD’s like the elite QB that he is and they didn’t have to run the ball because the Jets are terrible and they could throw all day.

This was the first week that Mahomes has had to carry the load for 3 weeks now yet the Chiefs keep chugging along
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 10:40 AM ET
Good post

Seems like a Buffalo Bills guy, forgot the dolphins are pretending to push for a wild card

- Boss34


They're definitely pushing for a WC. Even if it was last year where they weren't, I just don't see that team shedding solid, cheap players. I think they're building a nice team there and they are collecting a lot of solid players.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss

- Michael Pachla



Mike - I love how you're laying it down in regards to both ka-boo-hoo-hun and girgs. Perfect.

Hard to argue with your well written comparisons.

But, girgs should have been free. He should have volunteered to play in buffalo.

The ufa status definitely made girgs contract difficult to gage. It's so easy to just assume they "overpaid".

What happened to loyalty to longtime buffalo players?
Gritty blue collar kyle Williams. fred jackson types?
Maybe it's just me, stars like eichel are clearly stars , but it's the glue guys that used to appeal to this market?

Maybe the losing has scarred girgensons among the fans? I think he becomes a favorite again next season when were winning .....
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 2 @ 10:42 AM ET
Mike - I love how you're laying it down in regards to both ka-boo-hoo-hun and girgs. Perfect.

Hard to argue with your well written comparisons.

But, girgs should have been free. He should have volunteered to play in buffalo.

The ufa status definitely made girgs contract difficult to gage. It's so easy to just assume they "overpaid".

What happened to loyalty to longtime buffalo players?
Gritty blue collar kyle Williams. fred jackson types?
Maybe it's just me, stars like eichel are clearly stars , but it's the glue guys that used to appeal to this market?

Maybe the losing has scarred girgensons among the fans? I think he becomes a favorite again next season when were winning .....

- Boss34



Like Reinhart?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:43 AM ET
They're definitely pushing for a WC. Even if it was last year where they weren't, I just don't see that team shedding solid, cheap players. I think they're building a nice team there and they are collecting a lot of solid players.
- TheSabresTaco



Yeah, I agree. I get caught up in the , it takes 2 teams to tangle. Miami loves picks though...
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 10:43 AM ET
Mike - I love how you're laying it down in regards to both ka-boo-hoo-hun and girgs. Perfect.

Hard to argue with your well written comparisons.

But, girgs should have been free. He should have volunteered to play in buffalo.

The ufa status definitely made girgs contract difficult to gage. It's so easy to just assume they "overpaid".

What happened to loyalty to longtime buffalo players?
Gritty blue collar kyle Williams. fred jackson types?
Maybe it's just me, stars like eichel are clearly stars , but it's the glue guys that used to appeal to this market?

Maybe the losing has scarred girgensons among the fans? I think he becomes a favorite again next season when were winning .....

- Boss34


This argument is cyclical, but it really comes down to one factor.

Compared to players who do and play the exact same way Girgensons plays, he received double the money per year.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
Like Reinhart?
- jcragcrumple


Now you've done it.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
Like Reinhart?
- jcragcrumple


πŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›Ž

I should have mentioned Blue collar guys. Not softies crags. Buffalo Bethlehem steel blue collar , lunch pal guys.


Losing has made us dislike players we may actually would like if winning.

I love the sam contract. Gonna be %100 behind him.
5.2 , hopefully he outplays the deal on the 2nd line and breaks the eichel myth. πŸ€”
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 2 @ 10:49 AM ET
Like Reinhart?
- jcragcrumple
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
πŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›Ž

I should have mentioned Blue collar guys. Not softies crags. Buffalo Bethlehem steel blue collar , lunch pal guys.


Losing has made us dislike players we may actually would like if winning.

I love the sam contract. Gonna be %100 behind him.
5.2 , hopefully he outplays the deal on the 2nd line and breaks the eichel myth. πŸ€”

- Boss34

]Bethlehem steel hasn't been relevant for 50 years.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
πŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›Ž

I should have mentioned Blue collar guys. Not softies crags. Buffalo Bethlehem steel blue collar , lunch pal guys.


Losing has made us dislike players we may actually would like if winning.

I love the sam contract. Gonna be %100 behind him.
5.2 , hopefully he outplays the deal on the 2nd line and breaks the eichel myth. πŸ€”

- Boss34


The ones that brought us 0 championships?



Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
This argument is cyclical, but it really comes down to one factor.

Compared to players who do and play the exact same way Girgensons plays, he received double the money per year.

- TheSabresTaco


Check this post out , by someone other than me:

joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 10:51 AM ET
Check this post out , by someone other than me:

joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss

- Boss34


Two bad signings. The only difference is the team I care about made one of them.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:55 AM ET
The ones that brought us 0 championships?
- buffalofan19


Another good point.

You probably hated kyle Williams?

Guy barely snuck in the playoffs, because of andy dalton and a 9-7 record.

1 playoff game his whole career.

F that fred jackson cat too. Super loser right 19?
0 playoff games

F bruce smith and his hof career
0 championships


Am I doing this right? Should I be upset that you cancel cultured my post? That's more important than the original post or thought right? Maybe I should go back to bed? πŸ€”
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
Another good point.

You probably hated kyle Williams?

Guy barely snuck in the playoffs, because of andy dalton and a 9-7 record.

1 playoff game his whole career.

F that fred jackson cat too. Super loser right 19?
0 playoff games

F bruce smith and his hof career
0 championships


Am I doing this right? Should I be upset that you cancel cultured my post? That's more important than the original post or thought right? Maybe I should go back to bed? πŸ€”

- Boss34



Again, those guys were good, Those guys actually produced.

Girgensons is on bad teams and does not produce.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Nov 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
Another good point.

You probably hated kyle Williams?

Guy barely snuck in the playoffs, because of andy dalton and a 9-7 record.

1 playoff game his whole career.

F that fred jackson cat too. Super loser right 19?
0 playoff games

F bruce smith and his hof career
0 championships


Am I doing this right? Should I be upset that you cancel cultured my post? That's more important than the original post or thought right? Maybe I should go back to bed? πŸ€”

- Boss34

Yeah, Kyle Williams, one of the best DT's in the league over a decade is the same as Girgensons. Nailed it
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
πŸ›ŽπŸ›ŽπŸ›Ž

I should have mentioned Blue collar guys. Not softies crags. Buffalo Bethlehem steel blue collar , lunch pal guys.


Losing has made us dislike players we may actually would like if winning.

I love the sam contract. Gonna be %100 behind him.
5.2 , hopefully he outplays the deal on the 2nd line and breaks the eichel myth. πŸ€”

- Boss34


Remember in 2016 when the abandoned plant caught fire again and smoked out Lackawanna? That's face punchers and overpaid larrys who aren't actually good at defense: useless, expensive remnants of the past
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Nov 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
]Bethlehem steel hasn't been relevant for 50 years.
- ImThatGuy


Sure , my uncle just retired 15/20 years ago, from there.

But, what's 35 years datguy?

And NO , I dont think my uncle face smashed anyone, but he would have watched the nhl playoffs to form a valid opinion. Instead of arguing out his a$$ with no backing or knowledge
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Nov 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
Another good point.

You probably hated kyle Williams?

Guy barely snuck in the playoffs, because of andy dalton and a 9-7 record.

1 playoff game his whole career.

F that fred jackson cat too. Super loser right 19?
0 playoff games

F bruce smith and his hof career
0 championships


Am I doing this right? Should I be upset that you cancel cultured my post? That's more important than the original post or thought right? Maybe I should go back to bed? πŸ€”

- Boss34


No issue with either Williams or Jackson. They were good players on mostly bad teams that got paid very well. That's all they are to me, no more, no less.

Bruce Smith was freakishly talented, is a Hall of Famer, and hardly in the same "blue collar" mold as the other two. He was great. The other two were just good.

I look back with nostalgia on great players, of which neither team has had too many in the past 20 or so years.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Check this post out , by someone other than me:

joe sakic signs valeri nichuhskin (2013, 10th overall) to a two-year/$5M contract

kevyn adams signs zemgus girgensons (2012, 14th) to a two-year/$4.5M contract


nichushkin 288 games 36 goals (0.125 goals/game)
girgensons 489 games 61 goals (0.1247 goals/game)


discuss

- Boss34

thought girgens got 3 years
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