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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:43 AM ET
he gets 60 points in a full season if with eichel
- homiedclown


What are you basing that on?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 2 @ 8:44 AM ET
Based on what? Your gut feeling?

The numbers for each in their NHL careers to date are starkly clear regarding who provides offense in a lesser role.

- kingcong39


Tage's spinorama/60 is significantly higher
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:46 AM ET
Tage's spinorama/60 is significantly higher
- jcragcrumple


Way higher. One guy scores 40, the other guy scores 35, and our record may have 1 additional win because of it.

See ya, Dominik. Good luck in Edmonton, sorry you didn't sign the better offer in Buffalo.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 2 @ 8:47 AM ET
And YOU could choose to be HOPEFUL,
or just miserably complain every day

The season doesn’t start for MONTHS

Some of those above issues that haven’t been addressed yet could still be addressed,
RIGHT?!
Or does camp start next week?

- jdfitz77



This was exactly the same take expressed last July...about 3 weeks in after the vast majority of trades and UFa signings. While it is Nov now, on the relative offseason calendar it us like the 3rd or 4th week in July of a normal year.

Hopefully, this year is much different. We shall see.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:48 AM ET
What are you basing that on?
- kingcong39

improvement made in his game when he went to rochester

.5 gpg


kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:49 AM ET
improvement made in his game when he went to rochester

.5 gpg

- homiedclown


How many goals do you think he scores if he is the RW with Eichel?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:49 AM ET
This was exactly the same take expressed last July...about 3 weeks in after the vast majority of trades and UFa signings. While it is Nov now, on the relative offseason calendar it us like the 3rd or 4th week in July of a normal year.

Hopefully, this year is much different. We shall see.

- IonSabres


Trades need to be made. Not necessarily the Sabres, but league wide. Hope they get in on that. The defense needs a little shuffling. Find a 2LD that isn't named Montour.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:49 AM ET
How many goals do you think he scores if he is the RW with Eichel?
- kingcong39

30 in a full season


he literally did the same thing in rochester olofsson did before olofsson came up with big club
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
How many goals do you think he scores if he is the RW with Eichel?
- kingcong39


1.2 goals per 60 with Eichel.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Nov 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
Way higher. One guy scores 40, the other guy scores 35, and our record may have 1 additional win because of it.

See ya, Dominik. Good luck in Edmonton, sorry you didn't sign the better offer in Buffalo.

- TheSabresTaco


Bold prediction. Tage will not have played hockey in over a year by the time they hit the ice. But rivet said he's thicc now so we'll see
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
30 in a full season

he literally did the same thing in rochester olofsson did before olofsson came up with big club

- homiedclown


You mean aside from the fact that Olofsson did it for 50 more games than Tage did, right?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
30 in a full season


he literally did the same thing in rochester olofsson did before olofsson came up with big club

- homiedclown


Some people buying Tage, some selling. Just gotta play the games.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:51 AM ET
olofsson
66 games with rochester
30 goals 63 points

tage
27 games
14 goals 23 points



both had asplund as their center
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:52 AM ET
Bold prediction. Tage will not have played hockey in over a year by the time they hit the ice. But rivet said he's thicc now so we'll see
- jcragcrumple


An analytic the nerds DGAF about.

But seriously, just like Casey, a major detriment of his game was lack of strength. He should be a whole new player when he can hold onto, and retrieve the puck.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:53 AM ET
You mean aside from the fact that Olofsson did it for 50 more games than Tage did, right?
- kingcong39

39 games

there is a reason thompson had a first round draft grade and olofsson didn't

kid has talent
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Nov 2 @ 8:54 AM ET
Some people buying Tage, some selling. Just gotta play the games.
- TheSabresTaco

I'd rather talk about the upside from tage then reinhart, girgens and kahun
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:54 AM ET
olofsson
66 games with rochester
30 goals 63 points

tage
27 games
14 goals 23 points



both had asplund as their center

- homiedclown


Thompson was the most dominant player on that team in those 27 games and it wasn't close.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:55 AM ET
I'd rather talk about the upside from tage than *_$(*%(_#)(_#
- homiedclown


fixed
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:56 AM ET
So :
3 of the Top 5 qbs are ?

Stafford , matt
Watson
Herbert

- Boss34


For this year ?

Wilson
Mahomes
Rodgers
Watson
Herbert.

Brady, Murray, Tannehill, and Allen all make good cases for top 5 as well though.

I think your boy Josh has proven he should be in the top 10 but idk about top 5.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
olofsson
66 games with rochester
30 goals 63 points

tage
27 games
14 goals 23 points

both had asplund as their center

- homiedclown


https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tage-thompson

24 total Rochester games played the past 2 seasons, with 12 goals and 9 assists for 21 points.

He also played 30 games for the St. Louis AHL affiliate and had 8 goals and 10 assists for 18 points.

That's 54 total AHL games with 20 total goals and 21 total assists for 41 total points.

Is it possible he's a strong AHL player who cannot translate his game to the NHL due to the lack of time and space he needs to get his shot off with at least some degree of accuracy?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:58 AM ET
Hey Flacco can you post Laaksonen's development curve.. and does it include D+4
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Nov 2 @ 8:59 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tage-thompson

24 total Rochester games played the past 2 seasons, with 12 goals and 9 assists for 21 points.

He also played 30 games for the St. Louis AHL affiliate and had 8 goals and 10 assists for 18 points.

That's 54 total AHL games with 20 total goals and 21 total assists for 41 total points.

Is it possible he's a strong AHL player who cannot translate his game to the NHL due to the lack of time and space he needs to get his shot off with at least some degree of accuracy?

- kingcong39


Course it is. Like Pilut. It's also possible he can indeed translate his skills now that he has NHL strength.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Nov 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
Thompson was the most dominant player on that team in those 27 games and it wasn't close.
- TheSabresTaco


He was so good that he dominated the 3 games of the 27 that he didn't even play in?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Nov 2 @ 9:00 AM ET
So, today we are arguing whether we made a mistake not signing a guy that is making less than a million in an NHL outpost when every other team could have signed him and didn't??

Gotcha.

- Blockhead


Kinda.
Really discussing if it makes sense to sign an 18 pt 4th liner for 3 x $2.2m resulting in about $800k overpayment annually resulting from a knee jerk reaction to the opening of FA...
Coupled with a 31 pt middle 6 player signing elsewhere for mid $900k.
If you think about it, Sabres could have had both for only $150 more than Girgs.

Moving on...
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Nov 2 @ 9:04 AM ET
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tage-thompson

24 total Rochester games played the past 2 seasons, with 12 goals and 9 assists for 21 points.

He also played 30 games for the St. Louis AHL affiliate and had 8 goals and 10 assists for 18 points.

That's 54 total AHL games with 20 total goals and 21 total assists for 41 total points.

Is it possible he's a strong AHL player who cannot translate his game to the NHL due to the lack of time and space he needs to get his shot off with at least some degree of accuracy?

- kingcong39


Mark Mancari and Luke Adam would like a word.
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