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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Oct 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
DId i hear fantasy trade offer.

{CLears throat}

OEL and Kuemper
for
Ristolainen, Mitts, Hutton, Asplud, 2021 First, 2022 2nd

Miller or Montour for Picks/ Prospects
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Oct 30 @ 12:12 PM ET
I look at it from both sides.

You need good defense and good goaltending. Sometimes they go hand in hand but once and a while you need your goalie to come up with a difficult save which is something neither Ullmark and Hutton could do.

- Stripes77

I think ullmark came up with several big saves to help secure wins and keep us in games we lost


5 on 5, he was pretty good in almost every stat out there
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 30 @ 12:28 PM ET
DId i hear fantasy trade offer.

{CLears throat}

OEL and Kuemper
for
Ristolainen, Mitts, Hutton, Asplud, 2021 First, 2022 2nd

Miller or Montour for Picks/ Prospects

- ImThatGuy

That's a wild one, and actually not bad but OEL would have to waive too.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 30 @ 12:43 PM ET
Toronto signs Hutchinson.
- Stripes77

I puked in my mouth, then read it was strictly a "Seattle expansion draft" move.

He won't see the ice unless there is an injury.
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Oct 30 @ 12:48 PM ET
Fuggin goalie upgrade is next... if not, we still suck
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 30 @ 1:08 PM ET
Cozens and Quinn were both selected for the camp.

My guess is Cozens plays and Quinn gets cut. That team is stacked. If Quinn makes it I would be very shocked.

- Stripes77

With Dach and likely Lafreniere being released to play for Canada the odds are really stacked against the 2001 birthdays. The selection camp this year is a full month long with 6 games against a Canadian University all star team so just having prospects at this camp is a HUGE development opportunity.
The Rangers would be stupid not to let Lafreniere and Kakko participate in this tournament unless the NHL starts up and conflicts.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 1:17 PM ET
With Dach and likely Lafreniere being released to play for Canada the odds are really stacked against the 2001 birthdays. The selection camp this year is a full month long with 6 games against a Canadian University all star team so just having prospects at this camp is a HUGE development opportunity.
The Rangers would be stupid not to let Lafreniere and Kakko participate in this tournament unless the NHL starts up and conflicts.

- DEDDIE


Lafreniere has nothing left to prove. To risk injury would be pointless
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 1:23 PM ET
Lafreniere has nothing left to prove. To risk injury would be pointless
- Pegullaville



I think it’s more about having the young guys hitting camp with with both feet and already in game shape.

This year more than most is the year you could see the younglings making NHL rosters because of it.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 1:33 PM ET
I think it’s more about having the young guys hitting camp with with both feet and already in game shape.

This year more than most is the year you could see the younglings making NHL rosters because of it.

- dadeadhead


Lafreniere is making the Rangers roster
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Oct 30 @ 1:34 PM ET
I think it’s more about having the young guys hitting camp with with both feet and already in game shape.

This year more than most is the year you could see the younglings making NHL rosters because of it.

- dadeadhead

Agreed this tournament is going to be elite this year and the only development opportunity other than the gym and skating with players you live close to. I dont think NHL camps even open until after New Years Day
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 1:38 PM ET
Lafreniere is making the Rangers roster
- Pegullaville



Yes but to have a guy of his talent already in game shape to start training camp benefits he and the Rangers tremendously.


Same for Couzins and the Sabres.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 30 @ 1:40 PM ET
Lafreniere is making the Rangers roster
- Pegullaville


He'll be on Canada's too.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 1:48 PM ET
Yes but to have a guy of his talent already in game shape to start training camp benefits he and the Rangers tremendously.


Same for Couzins and the Sabres.

- dadeadhead


Not if he gets hurt he won’t be.

Lafreniere is going to be an integral part of that teams roster next year.

Cozens will be a more secondary roster player.

I think the risks outweigh the costs but I’m not apart of the Rangers management team.

Anyone remember Lafreneire’s leg injury in last years WJC ? Why take that risk again
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Oct 30 @ 2:06 PM ET
Not if he gets hurt he won’t be.

Lafreniere is going to be an integral part of that teams roster next year.

Cozens will be a more secondary roster player.

I think the risks outweigh the costs but I’m not apart of the Rangers management team.

Anyone remember Lafreneire’s leg injury in last years WJC ? Why take that risk again

- Pegullaville



Because they feel thats whats best for the player and the team.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 30 @ 2:12 PM ET
Because they feel thats whats best for the player and the team.
- dadeadhead


It's the same reason the Oilers let Ryan Nugent-Hopkins play in the 2013 World Juniors during the lockout.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Oct 30 @ 2:15 PM ET
Because they feel thats whats best for the player and the team.
- dadeadhead

you can't live life always scared about the what if.. otherwise you won't get anything done

Eichel shouldn't practice during the preseason he might get run over by girgy
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 2:16 PM ET
Because they feel thats whats best for the player and the team.
- dadeadhead


Time will tell I guess.

Imagine Hall or Eichel blowing their knee out in a meaningless tournament ?

To each their own I guess
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Oct 30 @ 2:19 PM ET
Not if he gets hurt he won’t be.

Lafreniere is going to be an integral part of that teams roster next year.

Cozens will be a more secondary roster player.

I think the risks outweigh the costs but I’m not apart of the Rangers management team.

Anyone remember Lafreneire’s leg injury in last years WJC ? Why take that risk again

- Pegullaville



If Lafreneire is the integral player to the Rangers than they are still a bottom dwelling team. He’ll be a rising depth player with a high ceiling, similar to Cozens if he makes the Sabres roster. Are the Rangers out of contention without an 18/19 year old rookie lw or will they still compete with Panarin and Krieder in top 6 roles?

Deciding from a position of fear minimizes growth pace. Kid hasn’t played in almost a year, let him play and dominate heading into his first nhl camp from a position of strength and earn his spot. Draft is over, hype got him here now production will keep him there.

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 2:20 PM ET
you can't live life always scared about the what if.. otherwise you won't get anything done

Eichel shouldn't practice during the preseason he might get run over by girgy

- SabresFaninIndiana


Sure, but the risk of injury is lower in practice then in a tournament of kids looking to make a name for themselves.

Ask the coyotes how useful Hayton was with a bum shoulder the second half of last year
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 2:23 PM ET
If Lafreneire is the integral player to the Rangers than they are still a bottom dwelling team. He’ll be a rising depth player with a high ceiling, similar to Cozens if he makes the Sabres roster. Are the Rangers out of contention without an 18/19 year old rookie lw or will they still compete with Panarin and Krieder in top 6 roles?

Deciding from a position of fear minimizes growth pace. Kid hasn’t played in almost a year, let him play and dominate heading into his first nhl camp from a position of strength and earn his spot. Draft is over, hype got him here now production will keep him there.

- washedup20


Lafreniere should be a 50 point winger as early as this year if we are talking about over the course of an 82 game season.

He’s the best forward prospect since Matthews.


washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Oct 30 @ 2:25 PM ET
Lafreniere should be a 50 point winger as early as this year if we are talking about over the course of an 82 game season.

He’s the best forward prospect since Matthews.

- Pegullaville



That’s excellent and probably the reason he was drafted 1st overall. Until he is though he’s just a prospect who is young and hasn’t been able to compete at a high level for ~10 months.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 2:48 PM ET
That’s excellent and probably the reason he was drafted 1st overall. Until he is though he’s just a prospect who is young and hasn’t been able to compete at a high level for ~10 months.
- washedup20


Yes, and those are the pros of him playing in the tournament.

It’s up to the Rangers management to decide if it’s worth the risk
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 30 @ 3:18 PM ET
So not contact hockey for Jack Quinn this year in the OHL.

Should be good for his development 😬
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
So not contact hockey for Jack Quinn this year in the OHL.

Should be good for his development 😬

- Pegullaville


People have lost their minds.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 30 @ 3:23 PM ET
Lafreniere's WJC days are over. He is a pro now, been there, done that and is not going to look back. He and his agent are not going to risk a season ending, career ending injury, take out insurance for a TSN Bob Mackenzie over-inflated tournament. Bank it.
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