Ok, lets say there is email. That would make the situation more comparable. Emails are not legally binding contracts.

What then? No one doubts Coyotes drafted him.
- PT21

I think you answered your own question then. If an e-mail is not legally binding, then how could the person sue? May be unethical on the employers' part, but unethical is not always illegal.

This is a different matter. If he legally misrepresented the situation, then that's a different story. It all depends on what he said to teams and what "making peace with the victim" mean.

I understand that it can be repulsive, but a lot of stuff is repulsive and yet legally permissible.
- PT21

And again I’m not saying he should never get a second chance for something he did as a 14 year old....but I’m more concerned what it would say if the Yotes didn’t react this way. I think when you have done something like this you should make amends....it’s called maturing and growing up.

Obviously the yotes agree with me. It’s about character. It’s about the image of a franchise. It’s about where we are today in society. He’s already been tried. Apparently he told teams he had made peace with the victim, and it has now come to light that was not the case. I’m sick of hearing about “second chance” BS when it’s pretty obvious he Was more worried about his own draft status then The well being of his victim....again F him.
- landros 2

I don't know the guy at all, maybe he hasn't changed. But I do feel bad for people that have done/said stupid things on the internet and such as children, then that comes back to bite them when they're entering adulthood. It just doesn't sit right with me.

I think you answered your own question then. If an e-mail is not legally binding, then how could the person sue? May be unethical on the employers' part, but unethical is not always illegal.
- Ftown19125

I am thinking of "good faith" issues, not breach of contract issues.

I don't know if it applies.

When the (frank) did HockeyBuzz become LegalBuzz?!

And again I’m not saying he should never get a second chance for something he did as a 14 year old....but I’m more concerned what it would say if the Yotes didn’t react this way. I think when you have done something like this you should make amends....it’s called maturing and growing up.
- landros 2

Thing is, there is a process for making amends: its called a legal trial. He did that, and did the punishment.

Now suddenly, he is being tried all over again for the same offense. Even in law that would not be possible because of legal jeopardy and the 5th.

And not even by a "jury of his peers." By the kangaroo court of public opinion.

It seems to be getting close to a lynching to me.

I don't know the guy at all, maybe he hasn't changed. But I do feel bad for people that have done/said stupid things on the internet and such as children, then that comes back to bite them when they're entering adulthood. It just doesn't sit right with me.
- Ftown19125

Agreed....but I also feel bad for the victim and the extra crap he now has to deal with because of someone else.

When the (frank) did HockeyBuzz become LegalBuzz?!


- Bendecko

Maybe we have run out of hockey things to talk about.

If we cannot be amateur doctors, we engage in funereal reminiscences. If that fails, we settle for imitating lawyers. If that fails, we call each other names, or we cyber stalk homes.

Whats your problem?

Agreed....but I also feel bad for the victim and the extra crap he now has to deal with because of someone else.
- landros 2

I hear you. Probably doesn't feel good seeing this guy that bullied you for years could possibly play in the NHL, now you have to see his face/read his name all over town. I guess I never really thought of that.

When the (frank) did HockeyBuzz become LegalBuzz?!


- Bendecko

Whats your problem?


- PT21

HockeyBuzz becoming LegalBuzz. Duh!

Thing is, there is a process for making amends: its called a legal trial. He did that, and did the punishment.

Now suddenly, he is being tried all over again for the same offense. Even in law that would not be possible because of legal jeopardy and the 5th.

And now even by a "jury of his peers." By the kangaroo court of public opinion.

It seems to be getting close to a lynching to me.
- PT21

He was a minor. It’s like you said, there’s a lot of repulsive things people do that don’t lead to being criminal. But character matters .....morality matters...Teams are looking for more then the just talent....what separates two good prospects from each other ? It’s not always the most talented player who makes it. The NHL is not a right. It’s a privilege. Again I’m not saying the kid still can’t turn this around, but at this point it’s pretty apparent he needs to do more to earn his second chance...hey he doesn’t have to...he can go get a job doing something else or he can rise above his pst misdeeds and persevere....balls in his court.

HockeyBuzz becoming LegalBuzz. Duh!
- Bendecko

It’s pretty sad to think I prefer it to MedicalBuzz.

It’s pretty sad to think prefer it to MedicalBuzz.
- NC Flyers Fan

But I know you prefer it when we talk about prospects. Because then its (Flyers)Farmbuzz.

He was a minor. It’s like you said, there’s a lot of repulsive things people do that don’t lead to being criminal. But character matters .....morality matters...Teams are looking for more then the just talent....what separates two good prospects from each other ? It’s not always the most talented player who makes it. The NHL is not a right. It’s a privilege. Again I’m not saying the kid still can’t turn this around, but at this point it’s pretty apparent he needs to do more to earn his second chance...hey he doesn’t have to...he can go get a job doing something else or he can rise above his pst misdeeds and persevere....balls in his court.
- landros 2

With a huge character red flag, it would have been better for him (and others) if he had gone undrafted. If he still had pursued hockey and with more maturity present, he could have camp tryout opportunities as a free agent in a few years. Being drafted doesn’t guarantee an ELC.

But I know you prefer it when we talk about prospects. Because then its (Flyers)Farmbuzz.
- PT21

I agree with Landros. (frank) this kid. Looked at some images of him. He's creepier looking than Dino Ciccarelli. No doubt he'll offend again in some way, someday and somewhere down the line. The Coyotes and the NHL owes him nothing. Although they get paid for what they do, playing in the league is still mostly a privilege. He can try and redeem himself with doing something else with his life, hopefully for the good. Ever thus to psychos, Mitchell.

But I know you prefer it when we talk about prospects. Because then its (Flyers)Farmbuzz.
- PT21

Still waiting mjl

Still waiting mjl
- SMS4016

Don’t do it...don’t do it...

Still waiting mjl
- SMS4016

I can’t see them in Arizona for much longer. I was out there for a business conference in season last year. In 4 days I didn’t see a single person wearing team merchandise. Just saying.
- Peter Richards

If AZ continues to be this dysfunctional, I could see a scenario where the league just gives up on a team in Phoenix. I don't know their financial situation, but imagine it's not great and probably hasn't been in a while.

Doesn't seem like something he could sue for to me. What he did violates every message the NHL is trying to put out about acceptance. I have no idea though, you could be right.

I don't think that something you do or say in grade school should have these kinds of consequences though.
- Ftown19125

You can sue for anything.
Whether you can win is a different story.

Two bullies ...one child that couldn’t defend himself. The one bully has showed remorse as per the bullied child’s family....the other bully, with his sense of entitlement has to this day never apologized to this kid. The yotes are doing this kid a favour. He needs to get his priorities in order.....Character matters.... yes he was 14 when he pulled the Richard move, but he’s 18 now and still hasn’t done the right thing. If he is indeed sorry he will get his opportunity, but he will have to earn it. I have no time for bullies, those actions are both cowardly and reprehensible.
(frank) him.
- landros 2

https://www.espn.com/nhl/...ry-assault-racism-surface

There is a lot he could've done in the last four years to make this situation right.

When the (frank) did HockeyBuzz become LegalBuzz?!


- Bendecko

It's better than BrainBuzz