I'm a big Armia fan too but I don't just mean bringing back former Jets for a second chance.. Lol

An organization that has so much working against it(weather/taxes) in attracting talent should be looking for any advantage in can get. I'd much rather see the Jets taking on a younger low risk "reclamation project" on a cheap one year deal then signing some old retread, that being said I have liked the Jets veteran/depth signings this offseason.

Pittsburgh for example has had success with projects like Oleksiak and Schultz, idk if the Jets have player development coaches at the NHL level but if they had a guy like Gonchar that could help guys get their game on track that could go a long way in filling out the lineup with some decent players rather then plugs and deadweight.

That's just my opinion though.
- JetFuel

In my opinion, the players will always go where the money is. Regardless of all other factors.

I don't think the PA would accept players taking less money to play in "desirable" markets. Also it appears that every player that plays here likes it here.

https://twitter.com/fan59.../1324795092264194049?s=21

Scotty Bowman seems like a real homie

Don't worry Rexy, Chevy will also bring Petan back.

Winnipeg Jets, an organization the never gives up on anybody and is now the perpetual place of 2nd and 3rd tries!!!
- TheUltimateJet

Enstrom just booked his flight to YWG as well.

In my opinion, the players will always go where the money is. Regardless of all other factors.

I don't think the PA would accept players taking less money to play in "desirable" markets. Also it appears that every player that plays here likes it here.
- TheUltimateJet

That's a fair assessment. I do believe that there are players who straight up don't want to play in cold climates, or smaller cities. However, I also would never want to ink a player to big money, if the extracurriculars are that important to him. If he can focus on the job that makes him millions, then he can go to Florida, where work ethic appears to take a vacation.

That being said, two unfair circumstance that can and have affected the jets must be addressed.

1) Adjusting players cap hits to their respective state's tax brackets. It isn't fair that Pietterangelo's 7 year deal in Vegas would clear the same as an 8 year deal of identical AAV. It's just not fair, and Canadian's do pay high taxes. Allow teams to offer Tax compensation payments, while not affecting their cap for an equal financial play-field.

2) Allowing NCAA players to wait out their entry level deals and sign with other teams. This is an atrocity. Rangers seem to have an easy time poaching Hobby baker winners/nominees that were drafted by other clubs, with no compensation. If the kid is lucky enough to get drafted, and offered a 3 year deal worth millions, he'd better play for the club that drafted him.

Guy's who play in Winnipeg love the fan base. And excluding this season, travel all year long. So if they need to get a round of golf in, its not a problem.

In my opinion, the players will always go where the money is. Regardless of all other factors.

I don't think the PA would accept players taking less money to play in "desirable" markets. Also it appears that every player that plays here likes it here.
- TheUltimateJet

I think you missed my point.

I think you missed my point.
- JetFuel

I got your point about reclamation projects. I have been preaching that forever here. I do believe I said that both Ryan and Turris could be had for 3 million together.

I was ripped apart on this board. Also there are two other projects on the TSN top 10 free agents in Duclair and Athanasiou. Again due to the market being messed up this year both could be had for 4 million easy. However when talking to other posters about this idea they think it's ridiculous.

I got your point about reclamation projects. I have been preaching that forever here. I do believe I said that both Ryan and Turris could be had for 3 million together.

I was ripped apart on this board. Also there are two other projects on the TSN top 10 free agents in Duclair and Athanasiou. Again due to the market being messed up this year both could be had for 4 million easy. However when talking to other posters about this idea they think it's ridiculous.
- TheUltimateJet

Turris and Ryan aren’t reclamation projects. They’re aging and in decline.

Duclair and AA aren’t smart pickups for us because they’re both shoot-first forwards that can’t defend. We have too many of those already. We need play drivers that are defensively sound, not budget Connor’s

Turris and Ryan aren’t reclamation projects. They’re aging and in decline.

Duclair and AA aren’t smart pickups for us because they’re both shoot-first forwards that can’t defend. We have too many of those already. We need play drivers that are defensively sound, not budget Connor’s
- Rexypoo

@Jetfuel

Point proven

@Jetfuel

Point proven
- TheUltimateJet

We need the next Nichushkin. Or Brassard.

An organization that struggles to attract better UFA's and is tops on most no trade lists should be one that gives guys with upside/pedigree
second tries/chances.
- JetFuel

I think the fact that a guy like Dano already knows the Jets system worked in his favor. I personally thought Maurice gave the kid way more ice time than he actually deserved and likely more than any coach since his first stint in Columbus. Dano was more than happy to come back. He also knows it's his very last kick at the cat so you can bet he's training HARD. That's type of reclamation project does have some merits.

I think the fact that a guy like Dano already knows the Jets system worked in his favor. I personally thought Maurice gave the kid way more ice time than he actually deserved and likely more than any coach since his first stint in Columbus. Dano was more than happy to come back. He also knows it's his very last kick at the cat so you can bet he's training HARD. That's type of reclamation project does have some merits.
- jetsnation

Lol Maurice gave him no ice time. He would sit out for long stretches at a time, never move up the lineup, and be flip flopped from one wing to the other at random

Interesting article about Dano in the Free Press ....

I got your point about reclamation projects. I have been preaching that forever here. I do believe I said that both Ryan and Turris could be had for 3 million together.

I was ripped apart on this board. Also there are two other projects on the TSN top 10 free agents in Duclair and Athanasiou. Again due to the market being messed up this year both could be had for 4 million easy. However when talking to other posters about this idea they think it's ridiculous.
- TheUltimateJet

I think it's that many on here prescribe to the notion that: "if X player hasn't made it on other teams he just doesn't have what it takes" or "if X team doesn't want said player then why would we?" but I don't think like that and as I said in my original comment, the Jets would be wise to try and use that as an advantage to filling out the lineup with some better players with pedigree/upside rather then picking up well past the expiration date leftovers that should be in the compost bin.

Do people not remember during the powerhouse days of the Red Wings when they were the kings of turning reclamation projects into good, useful players?

After just watching a season of having one of the most useless bottom sixes in the league filled with some players that were clearly not NHL caliber talents idk how any Jet fan could be opposed to taking on a reclamation project.
I know I would've WAY rather watched reclamation projects like Nickushkin or Dano this season then veteran retreads like Bourque and Letestu, to be fair there can be good veteran signings too though.

Also to be clear I'm not advocating that these reclamation project type players should be signed to some crazy contract with term but for something like a million or so for a year on a prove it deal is worth the risk, if the guy does well you can extend him or at least got a good season of play out of the player if he wants to test the market and if he doesn't work out it didn't really cost you anything as a million or so contract or less can be buried in the minors with almost full cap relief so not a big deal.

Again though, just my opinion.

Well, you’ve got (in probable Maurice ranking):
1: Scheifele
2: Wheeler
3: Connor
4: Laine
5: Ehlers
6: Stastny
7: Copp
8: Lowry
9: Roslovic
10: Perreault
11: Appleton
12: Harkins
13: Thompson
14: Toninato
15: Dano
And that’s not mentioning Perfetti, Gustafsson, Vesalainen, or even a major dark horse like Torgersson.

You’re also not accounting for the eight 1-way, waiver eligible defencemen the Jets already have without including Heinola and Samberg in the competition.
- Rexypoo

Torgersson injured and basically out for season. Wouldn't you know it!

I think the fact that a guy like Dano already knows the Jets system worked in his favor. I personally thought Maurice gave the kid way more ice time than he actually deserved and likely more than any coach since his first stint in Columbus. Dano was more than happy to come back. He also knows it's his very last kick at the cat so you can bet he's training HARD. That's type of reclamation project does have some merits.
- jetsnation

I am unclear as to what you mean when you say Dano is a “reclamation” project. From my understanding a reclamation is someone that has had success in the NHL and for some reason or another has not been able to repeat it again.

You have stated multiple times that Dano has been a complete failure so I am unsure what you would mean by saying he is a reclamation project. I am genuinely curious.

Torgersson injured and basically out for season. Wouldn't you know it!
- grahamzky

Wasn’t it 5 months? If the season starts in February, he could make camp

Wasn’t it 5 months? If the season starts in February, he could make camp
- Rexypoo

What happened to him?

What happened to him?
- JetFuel

I believe it was knee. He’s a total mystery to me. Maybe I’m an idiot, but I can’t even find a highlight video in him.

Wasn’t it 5 months? If the season starts in February, he could make camp
- Rexypoo

Thought the best acre scenario was March, but could be wrong. But will definitely miss World Juniors - and then some

I think the fact that a guy like Dano already knows the Jets system worked in his favor. I personally thought Maurice gave the kid way more ice time than he actually deserved and likely more than any coach since his first stint in Columbus. Dano was more than happy to come back. He also knows it's his very last kick at the cat so you can bet he's training HARD. That's type of reclamation project does have some merits.
- jetsnation

The fact that the Jets know Dano is the big key here in bringing him back, the Jets know what they're getting. Obviously the Jets know they are getting a "team first" player is the reason they would take him back.

If Dano wants to either make the Jets or stick around he needs to play "hell bent for leather" when he gets the chance. You know, sort of like Brandon Tanev. If he would (he hasn't before) he absolutely could help the bottom six. Give it on every shift!

Haven't been in Dano's corner before, but with increased intensity, I could be switched. Obviously the kid had talent.

We need the next Nichushkin. Or Brassard.
- Rexypoo

Brassard is still unsigned...... But so is Vatanen.

Brassard is still unsigned...... But so is Vatanen.
- bikeguy99

Vatenen isn’t particularly good. He’s steadier than Pionk, but with the reward of an occasional “how is that possible” play

Vatenen isn’t particularly good. He’s steadier than Pionk, but with the reward of an occasional “how is that possible” play
- Rexypoo

Vat's would certainly be competing for #1D spot on this club, and plays LD, and RD. Comes in handy when dealing with injuries. I honestly think he is waiting for a different club to free up the cap space and that's all that is holding him up at the moment. But he was easily the best Devs D over the past 3 seasons. He did not have much competition with the club, but he looked very good. Even a 1 year deal with the option to trade him with cap retention would be a no brainer for the Jets if the opportunity arises.