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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 2 @ 9:23 PM ET
The 25-year-old was a first-round pick of Columbus back in 2013 (27th overall) but is actually in his second stint with the team with stops in Chicago, Winnipeg, and Colorado in between. While he entered this past season with 138 games of NHL experience, he only suited up in three games for the Blue Jackets in 2019-20. Most of his campaign was spent with AHL Cleveland where he only managed to score four goals along with 15 assists in 46 games.

Not surprisingly, that showing wasn’t good enough to land him a spot on their postseason roster.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...gns-in-slovak-league.html

Dano never received a qualifying offer from Columbus in 2020. Why would they when he coulnd't even hack it on an AHL team. His NHL career is over. I suppose its now the fault of his latest AHL coach.

- jetsnation


Do you read? I mean that. Do you at any point read any part of the conversation until the last reply? I literally said his performance fell off in 2018/19, and he never recovered.
Pay attention 1st, spout off 2nd.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Nov 2 @ 9:30 PM ET
Yes. Otherwise known as good GMing, and maximizing on young talent.

The Jets did this to near perfection in 2017-18. Taking advantage of ELCs and young talent to stack the blueline, grab a Stastny, and have Perrault carry your 4th line all by himself.

The Islanders are a perfect example of doing the opposite, and now they’re likely a wildcard team at best for the next several years. Can’t afford Barzal, just lost a top pairing defenceman for magic beans, and are now jerking around all their young players (Dobson, Aho, Wahlstrom, Ho-Sang). Look how many prospects they’ve ruined recently just because they’re paying too much for fringe talent. Bellows and Dal Colle, anyone?

- Rexypoo


Idk why Chevy didn't trade those magic beans for that top pairing dman, Toews would of been great paired with Pionk, was taking another Dayoff I guess.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 2 @ 9:46 PM ET
Idk why Chevy didn't trade those magic beans for that top pairing dman, Toews would of been great paired with Pionk, was taking another Dayoff I guess.
- JetFuel


Honestly, I’d probably pair him with DeMelo, and put Morrissey with Pionk.
Toews and Pionk are solid transition guys, while DeMelo and Morrisey passing bois
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 2 @ 9:51 PM ET
Idk why Chevy didn't trade those magic beans for that top pairing dman, Toews would of been great paired with Pionk, was taking another Dayoff I guess.
- JetFuel

In my opinion I have never witnessed anyone take their name more literally than Cheveldayoff.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Nov 2 @ 11:24 PM ET
Do you read? I mean that. Do you at any point read any part of the conversation until the last reply? I literally said his performance fell off in 2018/19, and he never recovered.
Pay attention 1st, spout off 2nd.

- Rexypoo


Yes, I think we all have trouble paying attention to Rexypoo, and for very obvious reasons.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 12:13 AM ET
Yes, I think we all have trouble paying attention to Rexypoo, and for very obvious reasons.
- jetsnation


Am I really supposed to trust your eye test when you can’t read the name of the person you’re replying to
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 3 @ 12:58 AM ET
You... you know that Copp is both A: better than Stastny at C, and B: the best play driver on the team not named “Mark” or “Nik”, right?

Connor is not a play driver at all. He’s actually a drag he’s all finish, no creation. He drowns away from Scheifele, and even with Scheifele most of the time since 2019.
We only really have 4 play drivers at this moment (55,27,9,25), 5 if you count Laine.

- Rexypoo



Rexy....we might be making progress you and me. I do like Copp, but I still have him below Statsny. Stats is a pretty amazing player without the puck. Just watch him. Very technical and doesn't give you an inch. Copp may be more talented offensively at this point in their careers, but he has yet to crack 70 points in a season, which stats did in 3 of his first 4 seasons! Granted, Copp is NOT given many offensive opportunities, he still needs to break the 30 point barrier for this to even be a discussion.

At least we can agree that Copp is a good NHL player. Him and Tanev were simply amazing to watch 2 years ago. They were probably my favorite line in the NHL, and that line was under 5M. haha.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 3:25 AM ET
Rexy....we might be making progress you and me. I do like Copp, but I still have him below Statsny. Stats is a pretty amazing player without the puck. Just watch him. Very technical and doesn't give you an inch. Copp may be more talented offensively at this point in their careers, but he has yet to crack 70 points in a season, which stats did in 3 of his first 4 seasons! Granted, Copp is NOT given many offensive opportunities, he still needs to break the 30 point barrier for this to even be a discussion.

At least we can agree that Copp is a good NHL player. Him and Tanev were simply amazing to watch 2 years ago. They were probably my favorite line in the NHL, and that line was under 5M. haha.

- bikeguy99


I think the disconnect here is that you want to see more out of Copp before you sign off on him as 2C, and I don’t 100% trust Stastny to bounce back at 34.

Neither of the two is at the same level they were in 2018, and they’re trending in different directions. Let’s hope Stastny fully recovers, and Copp pops off. That makes us dangerous
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 3 @ 9:47 AM ET
Am I really supposed to trust your eye test when you can’t read the name of the person you’re replying to
- Rexypoo


I do agree with you, that You and Jetsnation are like the Batman and Joker. You two have a symbiotic relationship. One cannot justify their existence without the other.

In my opinion I think it's so cute how much both of you guys are alike and argue with one another.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 3 @ 10:14 AM ET
Copp doesn't get into the top 2 lines (in my opinion) because his hands were manufactured at Inland Cement. Otherwise, I am quite happy to have him in the bottom 6.
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Nov 3 @ 10:18 AM ET
I do agree with you, that You and Jetsnation are like the Batman and Joker. You two have a symbiotic relationship. One cannot justify their existence without the other.

In my opinion I think it's so cute how much both of you guys are alike and argue with one another.

- TheUltimateJet


You realize that Statsny's "bad" season still had 10 more points then Copps career high? I agree that they are trending in different directions, but I disagree that Copp is the better choice right now. I like both players, but Stats is absolute lights out defensively, unreal on the faceoffs, and put up 15 points in his 17 playoff games as a Jet. I know Stats has had better support around him, but he is the 2C until Copp forces him out.

I was a big fan of adding Stats for essentially nothing, and allowing Perfetti one more year in the minors to develop. Adding two C's at opposite ends of the careers finally gave the Jets some legitimate depth.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 3 @ 10:25 AM ET
You realize that Statsny's "bad" season still had 10 more points then Copps career high? I agree that they are trending in different directions, but I disagree that Copp is the better choice right now. I like both players, but Stats is absolute lights out defensively, unreal on the faceoffs, and put up 15 points in his 17 playoff games as a Jet. I know Stats has had better support around him, but he is the 2C until Copp forces him out.

I was a big fan of adding Stats for essentially nothing, and allowing Perfetti one more year in the minors to develop. Adding two C's at opposite ends of the careers finally gave the Jets some legitimate depth.

- bikeguy99

I think you responded to the wrong guy dude.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 3 @ 12:04 PM ET
You realize that Statsny's "bad" season still had 10 more points then Copps career high? I agree that they are trending in different directions, but I disagree that Copp is the better choice right now. I like both players, but Stats is absolute lights out defensively, unreal on the faceoffs, and put up 15 points in his 17 playoff games as a Jet. I know Stats has had better support around him, but he is the 2C until Copp forces him out.

I was a big fan of adding Stats for essentially nothing, and allowing Perfetti one more year in the minors to develop. Adding two C's at opposite ends of the careers finally gave the Jets some legitimate depth.

- bikeguy99

In my opinion lots of Stastny's stats were inflated due to him playing with Mark Stone. I think for Stastny next year he will go in 5 game cycles. Where he will look great for five and disappear for five. I really like Stastny and have a been a huge fan of his ever since he was in Colorado. I am also aware that time does not slow down for anyone.

I am surprised that no one is clamouring to sign Corey Perry. He's the same age as Stastny and Wheeler. He's a former 50 goal man, Hart trophy winner. He also brings that sandpaper to the game that everyone seems to think the Jets are missing.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 1:15 PM ET
You realize that Statsny's "bad" season still had 10 more points then Copps career high? I agree that they are trending in different directions, but I disagree that Copp is the better choice right now. I like both players, but Stats is absolute lights out defensively, unreal on the faceoffs, and put up 15 points in his 17 playoff games as a Jet. I know Stats has had better support around him, but he is the 2C until Copp forces him out.

I was a big fan of adding Stats for essentially nothing, and allowing Perfetti one more year in the minors to develop. Adding two C's at opposite ends of the careers finally gave the Jets some legitimate depth.

- bikeguy99


This is true, but Copp has never had the kind of minutes Stastny has, nor has Stastny ever matched Copp’s defensive performance.
Copp is also good in the faceoff circle, which doesn’t matter much to me as it’s just another puck battle in a game littered with them, but you care so I’ll say it.

Don’t misread my intentions here, I’m all about Stastny being back for a year until Perfetti comes in. I’m a fan. I’d just rather give the unknown a shot over the known but in decline.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 1:19 PM ET
In my opinion lots of Stastny's stats were inflated due to him playing with Mark Stone. I think for Stastny next year he will go in 5 game cycles. Where he will look great for five and disappear for five. I really like Stastny and have a been a huge fan of his ever since he was in Colorado. I am also aware that time does not slow down for anyone.

I am surprised that no one is clamouring to sign Corey Perry. He's the same age as Stastny and Wheeler. He's a former 50 goal man, Hart trophy winner. He also brings that sandpaper to the game that everyone seems to think the Jets are missing.

- TheUltimateJet


Stastny played quite a bit with Smith and Marchessault, it’s worth noting. It really looks like his biggest issue was on ice shooting percentage, which will obviously see positive regression, especially next to Ehlers and Laine. The question is how much rebound can there be if he’s in decline?

As for Perry... I’d be okay signing him if he had any sort of foot speed left. He can still go, but we have to be forcing Maurice to up the tempo now. There’s SO MUCH speed on this team, there’s no excuse for the flaccid forechecking, low pressure defending system he likes
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Nov 3 @ 2:16 PM ET
This is true, but Copp has never had the kind of minutes Stastny has, nor has Stastny ever matched Copp’s defensive performance.
Copp is also good in the faceoff circle, which doesn’t matter much to me as it’s just another puck battle in a game littered with them, but you care so I’ll say it.

Don’t misread my intentions here, I’m all about Stastny being back for a year until Perfetti comes in. I’m a fan.
I’d just rather give the unknown a shot over the known but in decline.

- Rexypoo


Like the Jets will not re-sign Stastny if he puts up Bryan Little numbers next year.

Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 2:24 PM ET
Like the Jets will not re-sign Stastny if he puts up Bryan Little numbers next year.
- BWJumper


How dare you put those words into the universe
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Nov 3 @ 4:10 PM ET
Like the Jets will not re-sign Stastny if he puts up Bryan Little numbers next year.
- BWJumper



From my perspective all Stastny has to say is that "he likes it here" and then all Jets fans will rejoice and demand that he be re-signed.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 3 @ 4:35 PM ET
From my perspective all Stastny has to say is that "he likes it here" and then all Jets fans will rejoice and demand that he be re-signed.
- TheUltimateJet


To be serious for a moment, what if Stastny is able to bring out the best from Laine ?
( I will be surprised, but it could happen)

Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
To be serious for a moment, what if Stastny is able to bring out the best from Laine ?
( I will be surprised, but it could happen)

- bennythehat


Keep him on at a low price, give Perfetti the 2C job anyway.

If Laine and Stastny are a match made in heaven to the point of inseparability:
Connor-Scheifele-Ehlers
Copp-Stastny-Laine
Vesalainen-Perfetti-Wheeler
Harkins-Gustafsson-Appleton

Feel free to flip Perfetti and Copp if you want the kid with the Laine
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Nov 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
To be serious for a moment, what if Stastny is able to bring out the best from Laine ?
( I will be surprised, but it could happen)

- bennythehat


Laine just had his best season and was easily one of this teams best players, would anything be enough for many in this fanbase, if he lead the league in points I'm sure it wouldn't be enough for some, he's just a one trick pony after all.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 3 @ 5:28 PM ET
Laine just had his best season and was easily one of this teams best players, would anything be enough for many in this fanbase, if he lead the league in points I'm sure it wouldn't be enough for some, he's just a one trick pony after all.
- JetFuel


Ummmm....he is supposed to be one of the team's best players and he is certainly paid like one of the team's best players.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Nov 3 @ 5:39 PM ET
Ummmm....he is supposed to be one of the team's best players and he is certainly paid like one of the team's best players.
- bennythehat


You missed the point which isn't surprising.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Nov 3 @ 5:45 PM ET
You missed the point which isn't surprising.
- JetFuel


I don't hide from the fact that I think that Laine is slow, lazy, and immature.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Nov 3 @ 5:48 PM ET
I don't hide from the fact that I think that Laine is slow, lazy, and immature.
- bennythehat


Oh, were using our drunk on forum opinions?
I’m “Pionk would be better as a winger”
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