I thought that Stastny did his best work on the power play when he was with us.
I was not overly impressed by the Laine/Stastny/Ehlers line....
But that's just my opinion....
- bennythehat

Ideally, I would like Maurice to try the following lines:
Harkins-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Roslovic-Ehlers
Appelton-Stastny-Wheeler
Lowry-Copp-Perreault

With Harkins and Roslovic being interchangeable.

This is just my idea.

I thought that Stastny did his best work on the power play when he was with us.
I was not overly impressed by the Laine/Stastny/Ehlers line....
But that's just my opinion....
- bennythehat

Won't disagree there. Are you taking Conner off PP1 now though?

Won't disagree there. Are you taking Conner off PP1 now though?
- BWJumper

yes - it has to be Connor getting bumped - Stasny plays that same down low bumper position and is better at it.

yes - it has to be Connor getting bumped - Stasny plays that same down low bumper position and is better at it.
- 2.0

We don't know if he still is. It's going to be three years since we watched him. Just my opinion.

yes - it has to be Connor getting bumped - Stasny plays that same down low bumper position and is better at it.
- 2.0

I'm all in for a Ehlers-Copp-Conner PP2 if they actually get any powerplay time, last year Maurice ran PP1 for most of the 2 mins. It would be ridiculous that the Jets would not be giving their best forward (Ehlers) and also their top goal scorer (Conner) no powerplay time.

I'm all in for a Ehlers-Copp-Conner PP2 if they actually get any powerplay time, last year Maurice ran PP1 for most of the 2 mins. It would be ridiculous that the Jets would not be giving their best forward (Ehlers) and also their top goal scorer (Conner) no powerplay time.
- BWJumper

Copp and Lowry should never play above the 3rd line. Anytime they do play up the lineup their dump and chase style of play doesn't mesh with any of the Jets skilled players on the top 2 lines.

Copp and Lowry should never play above the 3rd line. Anytime they do play up the lineup their dump and chase style of play doesn't mesh with any of the Jets skilled players on the top 2 lines.
- islansjet

Aside from every time Copp has been promoted, and his line has seen a jump in productivity. He’s not dump and chase, that’s just what the bottom 6 is instructed to do

I'm all in for a Ehlers-Copp-Conner PP2 if they actually get any powerplay time, last year Maurice ran PP1 for most of the 2 mins. It would be ridiculous that the Jets would not be giving their best forward (Ehlers) and also their top goal scorer (Conner) no powerplay time.
- BWJumper

One of those things has been happening for years with Ehlers.

And let’s not forget that as much as Connor is Maurice’s favourite toy now, he only made it on the team in 2017-18 because Perreault went down early.

You never know with Maurice. He tends to do things that defy logic

It's debatable that your statement is even true.

Laine and Ehlers were on hot streaks for the 6 games before Stastny came (Laine 6g 5a, Ehlers 4g 4a). Stayed hot for the following 6 with Stastny (Laine 10g 1a, Ehlers 2g 3a). Then didn't do much for the last 13 games of the regular season they were together. (Laine 3g 3a, Ehlers 2g 5a)
- BWJumper

In the playoffs, that year Laine and Stastny amassed 27 points. Such short memories. Ehlers added another 7 points. Bottom line he was brought in for a purpose. I am also not saying they play every minute together. Maurice will fiddle once in a while .

In the playoffs, that year Laine and Stastny amassed 27 points. Such short memories. Ehlers added another 7 points. Bottom line he was brought in for a purpose. I am also not saying they play every minute together. Maurice will fiddle once in a while .
- jetsnation

With this logic, Anaheim should be doing everything in their power to bring Corey Perry back to their team as Perry and Getzlaf produced hundreds of points of together over the last decade. This not considering how much Perry has declined especially over the last 3 years.

In the playoffs, that year Laine and Stastny amassed 27 points. Such short memories. Ehlers added another 7 points. Bottom line he was brought in for a purpose. I am also not saying they play every minute together. Maurice will fiddle once in a while .
- jetsnation

Laine didn't score a goal at even strength after game 2 of the Minnesota series, and I think everybody knows how many Ehlers scored for the whole playoffs.

Copp and Lowry should never play above the 3rd line. Anytime they do play up the lineup their dump and chase style of play doesn't mesh with any of the Jets skilled players on the top 2 lines.
- islansjet

They should never play above the 4th line, they're 4th line talents.

Ideally, I would like Maurice to try the following lines:
Harkins-Scheifele-Laine
Connor-Roslovic-Ehlers
Appelton-Stastny-Wheeler
Lowry-Copp-Perreault

With Harkins and Roslovic being interchangeable.

This is just my idea.
- TheUltimateJet

I hear a lot in Jets discussions about how certain guys "just don't fit/there's no room for them/they can't crack the Jets top 6 and they need to be in the top 6 to succeed", so if Stastny ends up at 2C, Laine isn't traded and the rest of the top 6 remains the same and Harkins finds himself on the wing of Lowry/Copp and finishes the year with say about 10G/15A will he be considered a
"fit"? A "success"? "Another example of the Jets draft and develop plan working"?

I hear a lot in Jets discussions about how certain guys "just don't fit/there's no room for them/they can't crack the Jets top 6 and they need to be in the top 6 to succeed", so if Stastny ends up at 2C, Laine isn't traded and the rest of the top 6 remains the same and Harkins finds himself on the wing of Lowry/Copp and finishes the year with say about 10G/15A will he be considered a
"fit"? A "success"? "Another example of the Jets draft and develop plan working"?
- JetFuel

In my opinion, Maurice loves his veterans and if Wheeler's influence is as influential as it is. I don't see any new young prospects/players getting an opportunity unless there is an injury. Injury was the only reason why Scheiefele got promoted to the top line and also why Connor even got a shot with the big club. Injuries have made Maurice look like a genius. From my perspective I call it dumb luck.

I think having Harkins play on Copp and Lowry's wings would be highly unfortunate for Harkins. If he manages to score 10g/15a, playing with those two, I would call it a successful season whereas he was able to have moderate success despite being placed in a situation where he was not expected to do much.

Again just to reiterate, it's my opinion.

They should never play above the 4th line, they're 4th line talents.
- JetFuel

Lowry was last year, yes.

Copp was our 2nd or 3rd best forward. Only Ehlers was demonstrably better. Copp was also the league’s best penalty killer, which was fun to learn

Lowry was last year, yes.

Copp was our 2nd or 3rd best forward. Only Ehlers was demonstrably better. Copp was also the league’s best penalty killer, which was fun to learn
- Rexypoo

If Copp wasn't tied to Lowry, more people might see what you are talking about Rexpoo.

In my opinion, Maurice loves his veterans and if Wheeler's influence is as influential as it is. I don't see any new young prospects/players getting an opportunity unless there is an injury. Injury was the only reason why Scheiefele got promoted to the top line and also why Connor even got a shot with the big club. Injuries have made Maurice look like a genius. From my perspective I call it dumb luck.

I think having Harkins play on Copp and Lowry's wings would be highly unfortunate for Harkins. If he manages to score 10g/15a, playing with those two, I would call it a successful season whereas he was able to have moderate success despite being placed in a situation where he was not expected to do much.

Again just to reiterate, it's my opinion.
- TheUltimateJet

I agree about Maurice and even when due to injury he stumbles into something that works like the 2015 line he just can't leave it be and go with it either cause of his own ego, some other factor like possibly Wheeler or whatever.

I think I phrased that question wrong, should be: 'If Harkins ends up on the wing with Lowry/Copp and gets about 10G/15A do you think the narrative amongst many fans and the local media will be that Harkins "fits/doesn't need top 6 minutes to be succesful or useful/ another draft and develop success story by an organization that is the master at drafting and developing"??

I agree about Maurice and even when due to injury he stumbles into something that works like the 2015 line he just can't leave it be and go with it either cause of his own ego, some other factor like possibly Wheeler or whatever.

I think I phrased that question wrong, should be: 'If Harkins ends up on the wing with Lowry/Copp and gets about 10G/15A do you think the narrative amongst many fans and the local media will be that Harkins "fits/doesn't need top 6 minutes to be succesful or useful/ another draft and develop success story by an organization that is the master at drafting and developing"??
- JetFuel

Don’t forget the 17-18 Perreault-Little-Ehlers line being the best line in Jets 2.0 history, completely revitalizing Little as a player, only to be split up for no reason and never attempted again.
Their numbers were unbelievably good, and the only questionable thing was shooting percentage. You know, the one thing most guaranteed to rebound.

I agree about Maurice and even when due to injury he stumbles into something that works like the 2015 line he just can't leave it be and go with it either cause of his own ego, some other factor like possibly Wheeler or whatever.

I think I phrased that question wrong, should be: 'If Harkins ends up on the wing with Lowry/Copp and gets about 10G/15A do you think the narrative amongst many fans and the local media will be that Harkins "fits/doesn't need top 6 minutes to be succesful or useful/ another draft and develop success story by an organization that is the master at drafting and developing"??
- JetFuel

From what I have witnessed from the media they will say he's great! There is no more objective reporting these days in my opinion. All reporters will write articles that clubs like on order to get access to players and personalities. That's what I have noticed accross the board and not just here in Winnipeg. This I think is more true in markets where there is not much media competition.

I read a post recently, I believe from Garret, saying if you played McDavid as an average 4th line centre at 5v5, he would end up with between 10 and 15 even strength points across a full season.
Deployment, linemates, ice time, etc. all makes a difference. Remember that when criticizing the next Petan or Dano for their “lack of production”.

We want Laine...

And we’re prepared to give you not much in return.

I read a post recently, I believe from Garret, saying if you played McDavid as an average 4th line centre at 5v5, he would end up with between 10 and 15 even strength points across a full season.
Deployment, linemates, ice time, etc. all makes a difference. Remember that when criticizing the next Petan or Dano for their “lack of production”.
- Rexypoo

Yes, it is hard to score from the bench, but one has to earn his minutes and the reality for bottom 6 forwards is that when you do get on the ice, you had better do something impressive.
McDavid is a silly example to use.

Yes, it is hard to score from the bench, but one has to earn his minutes and the reality for bottom 6 forwards is that when you do get on the ice, you had better do something impressive.
McDavid is a silly example to use.
- bennythehat

McDavid is the perfect example. It shows you that there is a ceiling to what any player can do with so little ice time and surrounding talent. That’s also using m average, replacement level 4th liners as linemates. The Jets have rarely had that for the younger players. Petan and Dano had Thorburn and Hendricks, and both were likely AHL bottom 6 players at the time

McDavid is the perfect example. It shows you that there is a ceiling to what any player can do with so little ice time and surrounding talent. That’s also using m average, replacement level 4th liners as linemates. The Jets have rarely had that for the younger players. Petan and Dano had Thorburn and Hendricks, and both were likely AHL bottom 6 players at the time
- Rexypoo

McDavid would still look like an NHL talent in practice and on the 4th line. Cannot ssay same for Dano and Petan.
Dano was lucky for a short period of time with CBJ, after that reality set in.

McDavid would still look like an NHL talent in practice and on the 4th line. Cannot ssay same for Dano and Petan.
Dano was lucky for a short period of time with CBJ, after that reality set in.
- bennythehat

McDavid would get his 10-15 pts in first 20 games - then be elevated to 1st line. Good players leave an impression, and are rewarded.