OR

These badboys:



- Scabeh

Looks like they did, in 1909-1910.

And then they started winning so....

- Scabeh

The leafs will start winning

Molson suggested they had a plan in place in where they'd have 4000 people in the stands.
- Scabeh

20% capacity seems to the "magic" number circulating right now. at least in arenas/jurisdictions that allow it.

if they can allow 1000 or 2k or whatever..maybe hold a lottery for tickets, so you can buy a chance to go for a small amount.

I really dont know if that even makes sense and is allowed. i know id buy a few shots at going to some games...if its safe
- senstroll

It's a cool idea, but I doubt it will happen. The main reason, outside of the gambling piece of the puzzle, is the season ticket holders that are paying for tickets. They'd have to seat 1-2k season ticket holders that have already payed. I'm guestemating here, but let's say season tickets make up 1/2 of the arena. If you have a 20k stadium, like the Leafs (I think?), than at 1k attendance, as a season ticket holder, you could only go to 1 out of every 10 games. 1 out of every 5 at 2k. This will be fascinating to see how this all works.

You go insane whenever the Habs wear this atrocity:





- Scabeh

Hey. Do you remember that time they let a colourblind guy design prison uniforms . . .

Uh. Nevermind.

A bunch of franchises were carrying a pretty big debt load before the pandemic and they're going to be hurting. I had read that the Coyotes were valued at $300M, owed $300M and were losing $50M/year. (They were 3 months late on their rent at one point this summer.)

The League has a $1.7B available for teams (they can borrow up to $100M at lower than commercial rates) but some could go down if they lose the season.
- Canada Cup

Oh ya some teams are being asked to decide between losing money and losing more money.

Using Arizona they've already chopped their expenses pretty significantly. Player salary is the heaviest cost but they've chopped it down to about 62 million plus that'll be reduced by another 28% minimum.

They can negotiate other salaries and their lease with Glendale for the year to reduce further. Their other partners (The city, local vendors, tv, sponsors, etc...) all need to minimize losses too so they'll be some temporary renegotiations in place. The league's plan itself has to include massive reduction in costs for travel and hotel.

I'm definitely optimistic but I just think this billion dollar industry will find a way to make it happen.

It's a cool idea, but I doubt it will happen. The main reason, outside of the gambling piece of the puzzle, is the season ticket holders that are paying for tickets. They'd have to seat 1-2k season ticket holders that have already payed. I'm guestemating here, but let's say season tickets make up 1/2 of the arena. If you have a 20k stadium, like the Leafs (I think?), than at 1k attendance, as a season ticket holder, you could only go to 1 out of every 10 games. 1 out of every 5 at 2k. This will be fascinating to see how this all works.
- RickJames77

I'm a ticket guy up here (thru a corp.) and I know of tonnes of season ticket guys (me included) that'll happily defer our tickets/costs for the year. Up here I don't think all the corps will be anxious to get to the front of the line until 21/22'.

It's a cool idea, but I doubt it will happen. The main reason, outside of the gambling piece of the puzzle, is the season ticket holders that are paying for tickets. They'd have to seat 1-2k season ticket holders that have already payed. I'm guestemating here, but let's say season tickets make up 1/2 of the arena. If you have a 20k stadium, like the Leafs (I think?), than at 1k attendance, as a season ticket holder, you could only go to 1 out of every 10 games. 1 out of every 5 at 2k. This will be fascinating to see how this all works.
- RickJames77

And I'm sure everyone's watching the NFL right now. High caseload states are allowing ~12,000 into the stadiums. Setting aside whether it's a good idea or not has it been a major negative storyline so far? Maybe it's only a matter of time but for now that's bread on the table for those owners/players.

OR

These badboys:



- Scabeh

Take off your blue and red goggles, Scabeh.

I'm a ticket guy up here (thru a corp.) and I know of tonnes of season ticket guys (me included) that'll happily defer our tickets/costs for the year. Up here I don't think all the corps will be anxious to get to the front of the line until 21/22'.
- The Law

I have my own pair for the Bruins. I'd rather forego payment as well, but I've already paid for 90% of this season, so I'd be a bit ticked off if they decided to sell tickets to other people or run some type of lottery.

And I'm sure everyone's watching the NFL right now. High caseload states are allowing ~12,000 into the stadiums. Setting aside whether it's a good idea or not has it been a major negative storyline so far? Maybe it's only a matter of time but for now that's bread on the table for those owners/players.
- The Law

Some stadiums I look and I'm like "what are you doingggg!? Then, there are others, such as Atlanta, that looked very safe. The space between people even looked quite wide when they zoomed out and showed the arena. I think it was Atlanta at least.

I have my own pair for the Bruins. I'd rather forego payment as well, but I've already paid for 90% of this season, so I'd be a bit ticked off if they decided to sell tickets to other people or run some type of lottery.
- RickJames77

So far my intel tells me that I'll get a full credit towards 21' if this coming season is not available to me.

Some stadiums I look and I'm like "what are you doingggg!? Then, there are others, such as Atlanta, that looked very safe. The space between people even looked quite wide when they zoomed out and showed the arena. I think it was Atlanta at least.
- RickJames77

The problem is entering and exiting.

Paying for dog food at Petsmart:

“Would you like to buy a Petsmart plush toy for Christmas?”

“Ha ha ha - no, the last thing I need is another stuffed animal in our house.”

“Oh no, if you buy one, a needy child gets it, not you!”

“Uhhhhhh, still no thanks. Sorry.”

I am the Atomic Grinchie.

Paying for dog food at Petsmart:

“Would you like to buy a Petsmart plush toy for Christmas?”

“Ha ha ha - no, the last thing I need is another stuffed animal in our house.”

“Oh no, if you buy one, a needy child gets it, not you!”

“Uhhhhhh, still no thanks. Sorry.”

I am the Atomic Grinchie.
- Atomic Wedgie

Reminds me of this South Park gem:

Reminds me of this South Park gem:


- mjones242

He's buying ice cream, pizza pockets and vodka 😂

He's buying ice cream, pizza pockets and vodka 😂
- Zezel

Randy may be the best character in the history of television.

He’s got a hollowell of a shot I bet.

I’ll show myself out.

Randy may be the best character in the history of television.
- mjones242

I have actual, visceral soul love for him.

The problem is entering and exiting.
- Atomic Wedgie

Ahh yes, having problems with the old "in and out", huh Wedgie...😋

Ahh yes, having problems with the old "in and out", huh Wedgie...😋
- fifty__missions

The “in” is fine.

It’s the lightning fast “out” that is causing consternation on the part of Mrs. Wedgie.

The “in” is fine.

It’s the lightning fast “out” that is causing consternation on the part of Mrs. Wedgie.
- Atomic Wedgie

😂

Reminds me of this South Park gem:


- mjones242

This is the greatest thing I have ever seen in my entire life.

I'm a ticket guy up here (thru a corp.) and I know of tonnes of season ticket guys (me included) that'll happily defer our tickets/costs for the year. Up here I don't think all the corps will be anxious to get to the front of the line until 21/22'.
- The Law

Just wanted to say I love the fact you used the metric tonne here.

Paying for dog food at Petsmart:

“Would you like to buy a Petsmart plush toy for Christmas?”

“Ha ha ha - no, the last thing I need is another stuffed animal in our house.”

“Oh no, if you buy one, a needy child gets it, not you!”

“Uhhhhhh, still no thanks. Sorry.”

I am the Atomic Grinchie.
- Atomic Wedgie

Don't feel bad ...Tell them to (frank) off. That big charitable organization (like many big corps) gives 10% of the sale to a real charity.

Way better ways to help.