I had initially defended the action thinking that a 12 or 13 year old kid shouldn't be held accountable as an adult 6 years later. Then I read yesterday that 2 years after the conviction, the bullied boy's mother claimed he was still calling the kid the N-word and being an ass to him when he was 16. That doesn't sound like someone changing for the better or growing up.
- Monkeypunk

Same.

But after reading the bolded in your post. Fu2k that kid.

Suit yourself.

I've already blocked him from MY facebook.

TAKE THAT!
- Scabeh

It looks like they drafted him thinking it was a one time incident test he apologized for and everybody moved on. “He did something stupid.” Instead, it as an ongoing thing and there are accusations of more deep rooted racism. After all their End Racism banners and the noise, they just move on.

Suit yourself.

I've already blocked him from MY facebook.

TAKE THAT!
- Scabeh

I think people need to see the long game and get rid of cancel culture.

1. Cancel culture I think is largely a corporate phenomenon where faceless organizations don't want to sacrifice short term profits so they break ties immediately to save face
2. People who are canceled don't have the opportunity to take a walk of shame or own up to their pooptyness in the face of their peers, it's not a character building exercise to get fired, it only galvanizes their pooptyness.
3. A jobless homeless racist is much less productive and less benefiting to the collective good than a reformed racist with a job and a home

If someone fails to demonstrate that they can learn, then by all means fire them out of a canon and into Kaptaan's weird-ass free speech thread
- TheMussel

Well said.

Another problem with cancel culture is that those cancelled people still exist despite being excommunicated from polite society. And where do some of these (frank)s end up? Hanging out with other (frank)s in seedy corners just outside of society reinforcing one another.

It looks like they drafted him thinking it was a one time incident test he apologized for and everybody moved on. “He did something stupid.” Instead, it as an ongoing thing and there are accusations of more deep rooted racism. After all their End Racism banners and the noise, they just move on.
- Chunga’s Revenge

that could be the case, maybe they only knew of the one incident on draft day..

I agree, the Coyotes are doing the right thing

Suit yourself.

I've already blocked him from MY facebook.

TAKE THAT!
- Scabeh

Lolol.

That was his unflattering moment in the spotlight; I think he's done.

I will say that 12-14 year old kids absolutely know right from wrong, but they are far more prone to herd mentality / peer pressure, and also still have a relatively undeveloped sense of empathy. It's easy to get caught up in bad behaviour. It's easy to get caught up in not getting caught or not getting in trouble.

It's also easy to replicate behaviours learned at home.

None of this is an excuse for what he did, but I'm just saying that there is a lot of maturation and growth that happens to people through their teens and even into their twenties.
- Monkeypunk

I'm not so sure.

As an example, if you're taught that being a racist poophead is okay then you're not going to think that your racist poopheadedry is "wrong".

Having said that, it's quite possible this kid does lack empathy to an extreme degree and is a functioning sociopath. I'm not a doctor but it is one explanation for the continued abuse over the years.

I'm not so sure.

As an example, if you're taught that being a racist poophead is okay then you're not going to think that your racist poopheadedry is "wrong".

Having said that, it's quite possible this kid does lack empathy to an extreme degree and is a functioning sociopath. I'm not a doctor but it is one explanation for the continued abuse over the years.
- mjones242

It's hard no matter you try and slice it because you're right - situations vary, kids vary, kids mature at different rates, and have different environments that enforce different rules.

We are not religious people, but we've dissuaded our kids from taking the lord's name in vain because it is insensitive to those who are religious and I'd rather the kids not be in that habit.

That said, we had a girl over a few years back (one of my daughter's besties), and I think she was around 6, maybe 7. She dropped something and just blurted out, "Goddamnit!", and everyone sort of just looked at her. My daughter said, "Holy. You swore!", and her friend laughed and said, "No, I didn't. I said Goddamnit."

At 12 you're more developed, but it's still quite situational.

It's hard no matter you try and slice it because you're right - situations vary, kids vary, kids mature at different rates, and have different environments that enforce different rules.

We are not religious people, but we've dissuaded our kids from taking the lord's name in vain because it is insensitive to those who are religious and I'd rather the kids not be in that habit.

That said, we had a girl over a few years back (one of my daughter's besties), and I think she was around 6, maybe 7. She dropped something and just blurted out, "Goddamnit!", and everyone sort of just looked at her. My daughter said, "Holy. You swore!", and her friend laughed and said, "No, I didn't. I said Goddamnit."

At 12 you're more developed, but it's still quite situational.
- Monkeypunk

Now I'm seriously wondering if religious people should be upset by the term "Goddammit!"

You're asking God to damn something that presumably is bad. Shouldn't that be OK?

Thanks for this, Monksey. I'm going to obsess over this for hours.

Now I'm seriously wondering if religious people should be upset by the term "Goddammit!"

You're asking God to damn something that presumably is bad. Shouldn't that be OK?

Thanks for this, Monksey. I'm going to obsess over this for hours.
- Atomic Wedgie

Look. I don't know if they SHOULD or not, but what I can tell you is that my devout Scottish grandmother definitely thought so.

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Look. I don't know if they SHOULD or not, but what I can tell you is that my devout Scottish grandmother definitely thought so.
- Monkeypunk

Growing up, my siblings and I were not allowed to swear. Which is pretty funny considering nobody EVER accused my parents of being strict.

To this day, while I will swear like a sailor in front of adults, I will never, ever do it in front of kids.