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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:33 PM ET
This is all asinine. The team did not state that he had a chronic migraine issue as a child. Again, you have a reading comprehension issue.

And yes, you are debating that he has a migraine issue. You claim that the team is lying about that and he has a concussion issue. With each post you make, it gets dumber and dumber.

- MJL



And as a few people have posted the team could’ve just come out last year when medically diagnosed that they were wrong at the time saying it wasn’t from concussion but they didn’t and still haven’t. They doubled down saying he had history. Which nopa clearly debunked by saying he went 7-8 years without an issue which by definition debunks the “chronic” diagnosis of pre diagnosis condition. It’s been over a year and team still said nopa had concussion. If it comes out in near future hopefully will you admit they lied ? Which should be clear to you
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:36 PM ET
Migraines are a symptom of concussion. Popular triggers of migraines... sensitivity to light , diet, exercise, chocolate, caffeine, sleep deprivation ,etc.. you still haven’t answered the question. If it comes out nopa suffered concussion and that’s what the migraines were from will you admit you were wrong and the team did lie? Yes or no
- SMS4016


If Patricks diagnosis changes from a migraine diagnosis to a concussion diagnosis, that does not mean that the team lied about his diagnosis.

Concussions are a trigger of migraines.


SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:36 PM ET
I would think with all the time that he missed that it is at a chronic level.
- MJL

I would think going 7-8 years would would prove it wasn’t chronic level pre trauma when injury occurred. No one is disputing he now currently has chronic level. You dispute that he didn’t have chronic childhood. Even tho nopa himself said 7-8 years no problems.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:37 PM ET
Yes they did say he had childhood condition. When report of diagnosis came out in 12/19 saying chronic migraine disorder they said he has family history and he suffered from child hood migraines.
- SMS4016


Not the reports that I seen. The reports that I've seen said he had migraine issues in junior hockey. Patrick spoke himself of having an eye issue as a child.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:38 PM ET
If Patricks diagnosis changes from a migraine diagnosis to a concussion diagnosis, that does not mean that the team lied about his diagnosis.

Concussions are a trigger of migraines.

- MJL

The team said training camp ‘19 he didn’t have concussion. Migraines weren’t from concussion. So if it comes out he did have concussion they lied.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:39 PM ET
I would think going 7-8 years would would prove it wasn’t chronic level pre trauma when injury occurred. No one is disputing he now currently has chronic level. You dispute that he didn’t have chronic childhood. Even tho nopa himself said 7-8 years no problems.
- SMS4016


You're incorrect. I have not disputed that he didn't have chronic childhood. Again, you have a reading comprehension issue.

Aren't you tired yet of having it handed to you?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:40 PM ET
The team said training camp ‘19 he didn’t have concussion. Migraines weren’t from concussion. So if it comes out he did have concussion they lied.
- SMS4016


Absurd logic. You also have made multiple false statements.
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Oct 28 @ 8:42 PM ET
What did he say
- ClaudeFather

Said he wanted to, rhymes with “tape”, my mother.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:45 PM ET
Not the reports that I seen. The reports that I've seen said he had migraine issues in junior hockey. Patrick spoke himself of having an eye issue as a child.
- MJL

Show that report pre6/17. As pt21 and the almighty bill said. Teams get medical reports on draft eligibility players. No reason for migraines to be hid. poop Clarke had diabetes way more serious and was commonly known he had it. But yet again can’t find anywhere even tho there’s literally thousands of reports on players and easy access to reports worldwide nowadays about some migraine issue. Yep totally plausible that that little bit of knowledge crept through the cracks. Just happens to be affecting him now. Totally plausible. More plausible than there never was an issue. It never existed. But we read reports years later while player suffering a very well known symptom of concussion. Yep. While people post videos of player getting head smashed into boards and skating gingerly off the ice. Yeah no cover up here.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
By double meaning I mean that while he was hiding behind a lyric that talked about raping someone's mother, he posted them for that specific threat.

He knew what he was doing. And that was why I hit the flag button on it. ( and Im sure I wasn't the only one)

- MBFlyerfan


Bloody unsavory stuff.

But what credibility does he have about such threats materializing?
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Oct 28 @ 8:46 PM ET
Was it those Misfits lyrics that had a double meaning coming from him?
- MBFlyerfan

Don’t know anything about that band. His comment now that I think about it did seem like lyrics.
First sentence he basically said he wanted to , rhymes with “tape”, my mother.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:47 PM ET
You're incorrect. I have not disputed that he didn't have chronic childhood. Again, you have a reading comprehension issue.

Aren't you tired yet of having it handed to you?

- MJL

But you did. You said team didn’t lie. The team said when diagnosis came out in 12/19 chronic migraine disorder that he had family history and childhood issues with migraines. If say they aren’t lying then you agree with them no?
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Oct 28 @ 8:48 PM ET
By double meaning I mean that while he was hiding behind a lyric that talked about raping someone's mother, he posted them for that specific threat.

He knew what he was doing. And that was why I hit the flag button on it. ( and Im sure I wasn't the only one)

- MBFlyerfan

Yea I hit it also. What do you think he got? 30 days ?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:49 PM ET
Absurd logic. You also have made multiple false statements.
- MJL

Did the team not say last year training camp that nopa was out and suffering migraines? And that they weren’t from concussion? Am I lying?
Angus4444
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2018

Oct 28 @ 8:52 PM ET
Bloody unsavory stuff.

But what credibility does he have about such threats materializing?

- PT21

He doesn’t.
Probably reading this rite now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 8:53 PM ET
But you did. You said team didn’t lie. The team said when diagnosis came out in 12/19 chronic migraine disorder that he had family history and childhood issues with migraines. If say they aren’t lying then you agree with them no?
- SMS4016


LOL, There is no evidence, zero that the team has lied about Patrick's condition.

Look, I've humored you and debated with you and have given you every opportunity to state your case. The only thing that you proved is what I already knew about you which is why I normally ignore you. I had some enjoyment in making you look like a fool but now it's boring me and you're just repeating the same nonsense. Your time is over. No reason to give you any more time. Back to the ignore list,
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
He doesn’t.
Probably reading this rite now.

- Angus4444


Otherwise he is on shaky ground. PA has a terroristic threats statute, but it needs to have some real life basis. The stuff with JMatchett may be a tad close to the line.

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 8:59 PM ET
LOL, There is no evidence, zero that the team has lied about Patrick's condition.

Look, I've humored you and debated with you and have given you every opportunity to state your case. The only thing that you proved is what I already knew about you which is why I normally ignore you. I had some enjoyment in making you look like a fool but now it's boring me and you're just repeating the same nonsense. Your time is over. No reason to give you any more time. Back to the ignore list,

- MJL


And there it is folks the great mjl line of crap. Asked a direct factually question that everyone knows the answer. Yet once backed into the yes or no questions he resorts to his usual he wins a debate stance. You sir exposed yourself again. When it comes out nopa had a concussion the majority of people will say the team lied. If it wasn’t a concussion then I may be wrong and full of crap. Time will tell
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:23 PM ET
And there it is folks the great mjl line of crap. Asked a direct factually question that everyone knows the answer. Yet once backed into the yes or no questions he resorts to his usual he wins a debate stance. You sir exposed yourself again. When it comes out nopa had a concussion the majority of people will say the team lied. If it wasn’t a concussion then I may be wrong and full of crap. Time will tell
- SMS4016


Last response. The team did not state that Patrick had a childhood issue with migraines. That is false. You don't have a grasp of the record on who said what and what was said. That is clear with every post you make.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Oct 28 @ 9:52 PM ET
This conversation is giving me a migraine.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:14 PM ET
Last response. The team did not state that Patrick had a childhood issue with migraines. That is false. You don't have a grasp of the record on who said what and what was said. That is clear with every post you make.
- MJL


Patrick week to week for Flyers with migraine disorder
Forward will not travel to Global Series, has not played this preseason
by Dan Rosen @drosennhl / NHL.com Senior Writer
September 26, 2019
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NEW YORK -- Nolan Patrick is week to week for the Philadelphia Flyers and will not be able to start the season at the 2019 NHL Global Series.

The forward has a migraine disorder, and Flyers general manager Chuck Fletcher said they haven't decided if he will be placaed on injured reserve or long-term injured reserve.

"He's taking the medication now and we're hoping that settles down the migraines and gets him to feeling 100 percent from a health perspective," Fletcher said Thursday prior to a preseason game at the New York Rangers. "After that, he's skated a bit but he's essentially missed all of training camp. He hasn't played games. He hasn't been in any battle drills. We're going to have to make sure we get him the conditioning work he needs. Hopefully by the time we get back from Europe we'll have a better sense of where he's at from a health perspective and after that if it's all going well it's just a matter of conditioning."

Philadelphia opens the season Oct. 4 against the Chicago Blackhawks in Prague. The Flyers leave Friday for Switzerland, where they will play against National League team Lausanne on Monday, and Patrick will not be on the trip.

Fletcher said Patrick notified the Flyers in June that he was experiencing headaches. They worked with Patrick throughout the offseason to try to get to the root of the problem, consulting various medical experts, including a neurologist. They were concerned because the headaches came on randomly.

"That was the confusing part of it from a medical perspective, but we consulted a lot of different people and I think we feel we're in a good place medically," Fletcher said. "We'll hope for the best."

Fletcher said the 21-year-old has a history of migraines from when he was younger. He said there is also a family history of migraines and added that the doctors do not believe the headaches to be concussion-related.

"At this point I think he feels relieved to know what it is," Fletcher said. "The doctor feels that there's a regimen he can put him on with medication so we can control the situation and we're hopeful."

Patrick had 31 points (13 goals, 18 assists) in 72 games last season. The No. 2 pick in the 2017 NHL Draft, behind Nico Hischier of the New Jersey Devils, has 61 points (26 goals, 35 assists) in 145 NHL games.

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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:15 PM ET
Bloody unsavory stuff.

But what credibility does he have about such threats materializing?

- PT21


Dumb comments....but it borders on comical that someone would take this moron seriously. Nice to see the moderator turf this stuff....let keep the topics to :
1). Flyers talk
2) medical interpretations
3) Trumps impending retirement from politics.

Mothers and Other family members should be off limits!
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
This conversation is giving me a migraine.
- KGBflyers10

SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
Last response. The team did not state that Patrick had a childhood issue with migraines. That is false. You don't have a grasp of the record on who said what and what was said. That is clear with every post you make.
- MJL


What say you to this nhl.com article?seems word for word what I’ve said. They lied. You believe they didn’t say it still?
Fletcher said the 21-year-old has a history of migraines from when he was younger. He said there is also a family history of migraines and added that the doctors do not believe the headaches to be concussion-related.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 28 @ 10:19 PM ET
What say you to this nhl.com article?seems word for word what I’ve said. They lied. You believe they didn’t say it still?
Fletcher said the 21-year-old has a history of migraines from when he was younger. He said there is also a family history of migraines and added that the doctors do not believe the headaches to be concussion-related.

- SMS4016



And I copy and pasted the whole article for you mjl.
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