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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
new blog everyone
- mikeinbuffalo

FAKE NEWS!
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:22 PM ET
I actually find his model to be pretty inaccurate compared to this one:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...read.php?thread_id=162083

- Atomic Wedgie


Hey come on, I had some pretty good predictions in that thread
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:27 PM ET
The NHL will just do what they always do; bend the knee to the Leafs. So most games would be at a reasonable hour.
- GreatGigInTheSky

like a 4pm start in Vancouver
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 28 @ 2:28 PM ET
Are we talking playoff success as well?

I think his regular season model has worked quite well because offence and skill has proved to be more valuable in the regular season.

I think he’s been pretty accurate the past few years considering his competitors.

- Santo_44


Let's put it this way, I guess - overall the teams that his model identifies are top-tier teams is not that far off and typically has them somewhat accurate. I think a lot of this has to do with the way his model looks at individual players' contributions and how those contributions would roll up to an aggregated amount. It makes sense - a team with more star players would have a better sum. Also a team with more star players is likely a better team.

From the Leafs' perspective, no model was going to predict the Andersen we got in net, the fact that Barrie didn't even provide offense, which is really his only value, nor would it have predicted long absences from Rielly and Muzzin - nor how the increased role of negatively contributing players like Ceci would have affected the outcome. So you can't exactly throw that in Dom's face about how his model was so wrong.

That said, he did completely fail to predict the pandemic, so we'd be wholly remiss if we didn't hold him responsible for this glaring omission.

In general last year the following teams outperformed his model by 5 wins or more (considering proration to an 82 game schedule): Philadelphia, Boston, Colorado, Edmonton and Washington. The following teams underperformed his model by 5 wins or more: Toronto, Anaheim, New Jersey, San Jose and by a whopping 28.6 points - Detroit.

So by that token you can say that over 60% of his projections were within a relative limit. That's not bad. If I'm looking at the above - Carter Hart was probably better than expected in Philly, and the team outperformed it's expected goals by a fairly decent margin. As Pat said, and I think everyone agrees with - Boston continues to defy logic in terms of declining play. No one thought Edmonton would play that well, and I still doubt they'll do it again this upcoming season. I also thought Washington would decline, but they did surprisingly well. I did think Colorado would be a good team, so I was surprised his model was low on them. I also think everyone kind of expected a real poor performance from Anaheim and San Jose, so I don't know why his model was so kind to those teams.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Oct 28 @ 2:31 PM ET
When people start talking about who "deserves a platform" or not I get chills up my spine.

There's plenty of people who I don't respect but I don't believe anyone should be cancelled or blocked from stating their bs... unless it's libel, incites violence, sedition, etc. of course.

Granted, Alex Jones has crossed the line on free speech before and should be prosecuted for it (a defamation suit is currently in progress). But should a person be denied a platform forever because they did cross that line? Nah. We have courts and laws that can decide appropriate punishment. Not to mention, there is a responsibility and an accountability on the listener for acting on what they have listened to.

As per Rogan, I would suggest that you need to listen to more than just clips (which are usually taken out of context) before you condemn him. But hey, you're free to choose what you listen to and how you feel about him regardless.

I just choose not to apply purity tests because no one will ever fit exactly into my particular box of purity.

- mjones242


I’m not the government. I couldn’t and wouldn’t legally censor him. I am saying that the world would be a better place if his voice was never heard and providing him a platform does harm.

In my view the problems in American politics aren’t the result of the two party system and won’t be solved by adopting Maine’s electoral system. There’s a deep rooted white grievance mentality that helped elect Trump and that he has helped amplify. Fox News and all the conspiracy theorists that spin in its orbit have played a big part nurturing that belief system and undermining the notion of a fact based belief structure.

For the last 6 months or so, the Trump organization has been looking to buy a tv network and if/when Trump loses, Trumpism just slides everything right into that whole structure. Right now Don Jr is the leading candidate for 2024 nominee.

Obviously, this isn’t all Alex Jones but he’s not entertaining, he’s a joke. But he’s part of a group that is dangerous.

I’m not interested in Rogan because I’ve decided against him, I just don’t listen to podcasts.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 28 @ 3:27 PM ET
Every year, when the Leafs play in Vancouver at 4:30 pm EST, I wander into the Canucks thread and write a post that basically says: "Not looking forward to staying up really late to watch the game, but hey, it is what it is. I'd have to be a completely self-centred Torontonian douchebag to expect the NHL to frank over Vancouver fans just to cater to Leafs fans."

And every year, they fall for it and inform me that in fact the game is at 4:30 EST.

It's glorious.

- Atomic Wedgie


mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON
Joined: 06.22.2015

Oct 28 @ 6:15 PM ET
I’m not the government. I couldn’t and wouldn’t legally censor him. I am saying that the world would be a better place if his voice was never heard and providing him a platform does harm.

In my view the problems in American politics aren’t the result of the two party system and won’t be solved by adopting Maine’s electoral system. There’s a deep rooted white grievance mentality that helped elect Trump and that he has helped amplify. Fox News and all the conspiracy theorists that spin in its orbit have played a big part nurturing that belief system and undermining the notion of a fact based belief structure.

For the last 6 months or so, the Trump organization has been looking to buy a tv network and if/when Trump loses, Trumpism just slides everything right into that whole structure. Right now Don Jr is the leading candidate for 2024 nominee.

Obviously, this isn’t all Alex Jones but he’s not entertaining, he’s a joke. But he’s part of a group that is dangerous.

I’m not interested in Rogan because I’ve decided against him, I just don’t listen to podcasts.

- Canada Cup

I find it amusing that you accuse Fox of peddling in conspiracy theories and yet you unironically present the "white grievance mentality" narrative.

You wouldn't censor Alex Jones (or those who host him) but you are ready to make it known that those same people should not have a platform. Good thing you aren't the government, bro.

People who make unfalsifiable proclamations starting with the words "the world would be a better place if" need to check their own privilege. This sentiment smacks of thinly veiled authoritarianism - an ever consuming march towards ideological purity.
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