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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Oct 28 @ 12:33 PM ET
Sens are going to be terrible

back in the day, I wanted the Leafs to draft him so bad cuz they needed a C...like I would have been fine if they traded a poop ton to move up to get him... Bozak Connelly was what we had


now we have Matthews Tavares...and people write articles about the JT mistake signing.... so (frank) off with that

- senstroll

He hadn't played C outside of 45 games for the Sting at any level. I just don't get why nobody (even the experts) look into this? Like when Burke said JVR played centre in the past...like wtf are you watching his Timbits games?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:35 PM ET
He hadn't played C outside of 45 games for the Sting at any level. I just don't get why nobody (even the experts) look into this? Like when Burke said JVR played centre in the past...like wtf are you watching his Timbits games?
- AdamFrench



They count too
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 28 @ 12:39 PM ET
He hadn't played C outside of 45 games for the Sting at any level. I just don't get why nobody (even the experts) look into this? Like when Burke said JVR played centre in the past...like wtf are you watching his Timbits games?
- AdamFrench



Wendel clark was a D, so anything is possible Adam!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 12:45 PM ET
So how do playoffs work in this model I wonder? Top 4 from each division for 16 team tournament? That means 3 bubble teams from Canada, one from Central and one poopty team from Pacific are in. Do they do some rounds in each division to bring it down to 2 each?

Also, awards are going to be impossible to sort out if teams don’t play each other.

- Canada Cup

The answer is: nobody knows.

The NHL is currently putting together 20 different plans. They won't make decisions until they absolutely have to.

My best guess is 4 divisions (one Canadian). No bubbles - go with the NFL model. 48 games, all within division.

Playoffs? Probably 4 teams from each division make it, 1st two rounds are also only within your division. Then a bubble for final two rounds.

That's my wild guess, based upon absolutely no insider info whatsoever.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 12:46 PM ET
I love what he says, but it feels like false promises. Like this Nigerian lawyer who just keeps taking my money and never sending me my inheritance from my Nigerian Prince uncle. Hurry up, dude! It turns out the sales guy was wrong and this Lambo doesn't "pay for itself".
- Monkeypunk

Put a snowplow on the front - you could make a ton of money clearing driveways this winter.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Oct 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
Put a snowplow on the front - you could make a ton of money clearing driveways this winter.
- Atomic Wedgie

bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 28 @ 12:53 PM ET
The answer is: nobody knows.

The NHL is currently putting together 20 different plans. They won't make decisions until they absolutely have to.

My best guess is 4 divisions (one Canadian). No bubbles - go with the NFL model. 48 games, all within division.

Playoffs? Probably 4 teams from each division make it, 1st two rounds are also only within your division. Then a bubble for final two rounds.

That's my wild guess, based upon absolutely no insider info whatsoever.

- Atomic Wedgie

That would be pretty good. Leafs should be able to make the playoffs easily in that format.

It would be cool to see a lot more of McDavid and Pettersson too.

Not sure how effective tkatchuk would be against the big boys for the leafs...one of matthews best friends and marner played with him in juniors. They would know all his antics to get under guys skin.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Oct 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
The answer is: nobody knows.

The NHL is currently putting together 20 different plans. They won't make decisions until they absolutely have to.

My best guess is 4 divisions (one Canadian). No bubbles - go with the NFL model. 48 games, all within division.

Playoffs? Probably 4 teams from each division make it, 1st two rounds are also only within your division. Then a bubble for final two rounds.

That's my wild guess, based upon absolutely no insider info whatsoever.

- Atomic Wedgie


At the moment I'm sort of thinking the same as your best guess.

I would think they are hedging though - is a vaccine going to be ready? Let's face it - the rich and rich-impacted entertainment industries are going to get the first crack at any trusted vaccine.

I don't think numbers will trend down enough to make a safe decision nor to open the borders - but they may make limited exceptions by then, too. Given the way numbers are trending now you wouldn't think restaurants, bars, casinos and schools would still be open, but here we are.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Oct 28 @ 1:12 PM ET
drafting using charts and graphs.

https://hockeyprospecting...-with-hockey-prospecting/

2014 Pasta/Point yowza

Interesting look..I would guess this out preforms most teams

dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:25 PM ET
A lot of people did.. Most thought that Boston would slow down a little but they didn't.

I am hoping next season, Boston struggles

- PatC80

they will if they didn't re-sign Chara.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
I'm sorry. Did I imply that there was a better model or even another model? I'm not familiar with the models in use - but I am familiar with Dom's work, which allows me to criticize the parts I don't like. I like much of what he does. I also like how he's pretty transparent about what he's attempting to do.

What I said was that Dom continues to tweak his model, despite it continually favouring teams that are heavy on offense over teams that are better on defense. I don't feel his tweaks are made to consider defense, but rather to lessen the overall impact of the offense slant. I do think he needs to revamp the defensive considerations. Obviously I don't know his formulas, but when look at his results and projections, there's clearly a bias towards offense.

- Monkeypunk


Are we talking playoff success as well?

I think his regular season model has worked quite well because offence and skill has proved to be more valuable in the regular season.

I think he’s been pretty accurate the past few years considering his competitors.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
That would be pretty good. Leafs should be able to make the playoffs easily in that format.

It would be cool to see a lot more of McDavid and Pettersson too.

Not sure how effective tkatchuk would be against the big boys for the leafs...one of matthews best friends and marner played with him in juniors. They would know all his antics to get under guys skin.

- bryant

The one thing that I'm not looking forward to:

All the late-night games. Winnipeg will be doable, but Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary?

I'm going to have to get out the old transistor radio and listen to the 2nd and 3rd period under the covers, and hope my parents don't catch me.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
Are we talking playoff success as well?

I think his regular season model has worked quite well because offence and skill has proved to be more valuable in the regular season.

I think he’s been pretty accurate the past few years considering his competitors.

- Santo_44

I actually find his model to be pretty inaccurate compared to this one:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...read.php?thread_id=162083

Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
I actually find his model to be pretty inaccurate compared to this one:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...read.php?thread_id=162083

- Atomic Wedgie


Agreed.
dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Space for Rent
Joined: 08.30.2006

Oct 28 @ 1:34 PM ET
The one thing that I'm not looking forward to:

All the late-night games. Winnipeg will be doable, but Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary?

I'm going to have to get out the old transistor radio and listen to the 2nd and 3rd period under the covers, and hope my parents don't catch me.

- Atomic Wedgie

or if you can watch it the next day.

yeah those will be tough to watch for us folks here in these parts.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
I actually find his model to be pretty inaccurate compared to this one:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...read.php?thread_id=162083

- Atomic Wedgie

WOW

Roger actually predicted Dallas in the SCF. Amazing stuff.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Oct 28 @ 1:36 PM ET
WOW

Roger actually predicted Dallas in the SCF. Amazing stuff.

- 21peter


Yup. He was right about this one.

Which, according to him, makes up for all the other stuff he was wrong about.
21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Oct 28 @ 1:40 PM ET
Yup. He was right about this one.

Which, according to him, makes up for all the other stuff he was wrong about.

- Scabeh


PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:43 PM ET
Wendel clark was a D, so anything is possible Adam!
- senstroll


Wendel played defense all the way up until the NHL..

All of a sudden, they told him to play LW.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:44 PM ET
they will if they didn't re-sign Chara.
- dmnted


come on Dubas..... .Sign Chara
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Oct 28 @ 1:46 PM ET
I actually find his model to be pretty inaccurate compared to this one:

https://hockeybuzz.com/bo...read.php?thread_id=162083

- Atomic Wedgie

I miss those old days of having hockey in October...


"I wish there was a way to know you're in the good old days, before you've actually had them." - Andy Bernard
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Oct 28 @ 1:51 PM ET
The one thing that I'm not looking forward to:

All the late-night games. Winnipeg will be doable, but Vancouver, Edmonton and Calgary?

I'm going to have to get out the old transistor radio and listen to the 2nd and 3rd period under the covers, and hope my parents don't catch me.

- Atomic Wedgie


The NHL will just do what they always do; bend the knee to the Leafs. So most games would be at a reasonable hour.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:16 PM ET
The NHL will just do what they always do; bend the knee to the Leafs. So most games would be at a reasonable hour.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Every year, when the Leafs play in Vancouver at 4:30 pm EST, I wander into the Canucks thread and write a post that basically says: "Not looking forward to staying up really late to watch the game, but hey, it is what it is. I'd have to be a completely self-centred Torontonian douchebag to expect the NHL to frank over Vancouver fans just to cater to Leafs fans."

And every year, they fall for it and inform me that in fact the game is at 4:30 EST.

It's glorious.
Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:17 PM ET
new blog everyone
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Oct 28 @ 2:19 PM ET
Top of article:

This year, we’re introducing a tiered approach to the rankings, with staff asked to put each team into one of 10 categories based on this ranking guide for each tier.

Cup Favorite (1-2): Teams that are likeliest to play in the Cup Final

Cup Contender (3-5): Teams that have a real shot at winning the Cup

Dark Horse (6-9): Teams that can make some noise in the playoffs and surprise

Playoff Team (10-13): Teams that are likely to make the playoffs


Further down:

5. Toronto Maple leafs - Dark Horse

- Atomic Wedgie


Good thing they don't charge *too* much for this.

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