I disagree. The team is trying to form a new identity. Hard work , grind and play a checking game.

Why get rid of a player that fits the new identity ?
Why replace a player who the coach has coached and fits his style?
They paid girgensons ufa valued money, before the free agent market was set.

Just my opinion
- Boss34

THe signing of Hall and the re-signing of Sam and VO strongly disagree with you.

They have girgensons projected as a 3rd liner I'm guessing? So ufa 3rd liner , 12 goal scorer. 5th on the team in goals scored, isnt player 14-16 @ forward.
Its outplaying your contract and getting a raise that was deserved territory

Wonder what the 5th leading goal scorer on an nhl team averages in salary? Probably more than 2.2 .

I'm hoping being in the chase (couple games left) keeps eichel around. Probably wishful thinking.

Playoff sweep? Maybe.

You are probably correct, just making it may keep him around another year, but not really satisfy him.
- Boss34

5th leading scorer on a very bad hockey team is no prize.

He shouldn’t be in the top 8-10 on a playoff team.

5th leading scorer on a very bad hockey team is no prize.

He shouldn’t be in the top 8-10 on a playoff team.
- dadeadhead

Expecting him to score double digit goals again is a long shot as well.

Expecting him to score double digit goals again is a long shot as well.
- Pegullaville

Correct.

They have girgensons projected as a 3rd liner I'm guessing? So ufa 3rd liner , 12 goal scorer. 5th on the team in goals scored, isnt player 14-16 @ forward.
Its outplaying your contract and getting a raise that was deserved territory

Wonder what the 5th leading goal scorer on an nhl team averages in salary? Probably more than 2.2 .

I'm hoping being in the chase (couple games left) keeps eichel around. Probably wishful thinking.

Playoff sweep? Maybe.

You are probably correct, just making it may keep him around another year, but not really satisfy him.
- Boss34

5th leading goals scorers in buffalo

2011-12: Ennis (15)
2012-13: Steve "Is Not a Center" Ott (9)--48 games
2013-14: Oil Rig (9)
2014-15: Chris Stewart (11)
2015-16: Jamie McGinn (14)
2016-17: Skunk (17)
2017-18: Pommer (16)
2018-19: Sheary/Okposo (14)
2019-20: Gus (12)

take it for what it is

As much as I agree and think he’s been over hyped since his green mountain glade days. He’s a coaches wet dream, neck down hard work and yes sir kind of player. The Kougar club has claimed him, let us move on to the next issue.
- washedup20

This closes the chapter on girgensons and his contract.

I needed someone to wrap it up so eloquently, well written. 🤝

Expecting him to score double digit goals again is a long shot as well.
- Pegullaville

You know its been far too long since their has been sabres hockey when all people can do is female dog about Girgensons.

Girgensons is Paul Gaustad 2.0 - Here past his expiration date, falls down more than a toddler learning how to walk. Except Gaustad was excellent on the dot and he fetched a 1st round pick. Girgensons is neither good on the dot nor will he net us a 1st rounder from a desperate team.

He sucks.

5th leading goals scorers in buffalo

2011-12: Ennis (15)
2012-13: Steve "Is Not a Center" Ott (9)--48 games
2013-14: Oil Rig (9)
2014-15: Chris Stewart (11)
2015-16: Jamie McGinn (14)
2016-17: Skunk (17)
2017-18: Pommer (16)
2018-19: Sheary/Okposo (14)
2019-20: Gus (12)

take it for what it is
- Michael Pachla

My guess is all of those players were paid more than 2.2 million? Well actually 1.4 million?

And we all know contracts escalate.

Good points Michael . Appreciate the back up 👊

Probably saved a few million over 3 years 😉

THe signing of Hall and the re-signing of Sam and VO strongly disagree with you.
- ImThatGuy

I've mentioned this before.

Elite high end talent and lower inexpensive effort guys.
Couple mid priced vets with experience

2021-22 Buffalo Sabres

You know its been far too long since their has been sabres hockey when all people can do is female dog about Girgensons.
- Carubba-Kaleta

Girgensons is a microcosm if the issues with the entire team.

In the last two offseasons we have overpaid an impending UFA to stay while both players shot above their normal shooting percentages.

Skinner is a $7M-$7.5 winger who is making $9M because we paid a 25 goal scorer a premium for scoring 40 with Eichel.

Girgensons is a replaceable 4th liner that we overpaid by $700K

Okposo, Risto, Eakin, are all overpaid.

We have wasted between $10-12M is cap space between the aforementioned players.

It starts to add up after a while.

5th leading goals scorers in buffalo

2011-12: Ennis (15)
2012-13: Steve "Is Not a Center" Ott (9)--48 games
2013-14: Oil Rig (9)
2014-15: Chris Stewart (11)
2015-16: Jamie McGinn (14)
2016-17: Skunk (17)
2017-18: Pommer (16)
2018-19: Sheary/Okposo (14)
2019-20: Gus (12)

take it for what it is
- Michael Pachla

Did I hear a Pachla question to Samson during his zoom call?

Reinhart sounded like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed

Did I hear a Pachla question to Samson during his zoom call?

Reinhart sounded like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed
- jcragcrumple

He probly did just wake up. He’s in Vancouver. 3 hours behind

He probly did just wake up. He’s in Vancouver. 3 hours behind
- Sabretooth9

Yea it was 7:15 A.M there when the call started haha

He probly did just wake up. He’s in Vancouver. 3 hours behind
- Sabretooth9

Good call

5th leading goals scorers in buffalo

2011-12: Ennis (15)
2012-13: Steve "Is Not a Center" Ott (9)--48 games
2013-14: Oil Rig (9)
2014-15: Chris Stewart (11)
2015-16: Jamie McGinn (14)
2016-17: Skunk (17)
2017-18: Pommer (16)
2018-19: Sheary/Okposo (14)
2019-20: Gus (12)

take it for what it is
- Michael Pachla

And those again were some bad to very bad hockey teams.

This closes the chapter on girgensons and his contract.

I needed someone to wrap it up so eloquently, well written. 🤝
- Boss34

That’s why they pay me in Burger King coupons, I get’r dunn

And those again were some bad to very bad hockey teams.
- dadeadhead

For sure :
Many of those years were " trying to lose on purpose " years?

Girgensons is a microcosm if the issues with the entire team.

In the last two offseasons we have overpaid an impending UFA to stay while both players shot above their normal shooting percentages.

Skinner is a $7M-$7.5 winger who is making $9M because we paid a 25 goal scorer a premium for scoring 40 with Eichel.

Girgensons is a replaceable 4th liner that we overpaid by $700K

Okposo, Risto, Eakin, are all overpaid.

We have wasted between $10-12M is cap space between the aforementioned players.

It starts to add up after a while.
- Pegullaville

$2.25M for a third-line/bottom-six center who's capable of around 15 goals/25 points and also helps the pk doesn't seem all that high to me

For sure :
Many of those years were " trying to lose on purpose " years?
- Boss34

Whish ironically they iced a team full of low skill hard nosed grind it out guys.

$2.25M for a third-line/bottom-six center who's capable of around 15 goals/25 points and also helps the pk doesn't seem all that high to me
- Michael Pachla

The PK That was historically bad last year?

ALso i have Girgs as a more 7-10 goal guy and 15-20 points.

Did I hear a Pachla question to Samson during his zoom call?

Reinhart sounded like he woke up on the wrong side of the bed
- jcragcrumple

yeah...i asked what how felt about his first year under ralph

$2.25M for a third-line/bottom-six center who's capable of around 15 goals/25 points and also helps the pk doesn't seem all that high to me
- Michael Pachla

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The PK That was historically bad last year?
- ImThatGuy

sure

The PK That was historically bad last year?
- ImThatGuy

There's also the matter of Girgensons' astronomical shooting % last year

But in the interest of placating Boss and ending the conversation, ill just say he's very good and worth every penny!