There are alot of stupid arguements around here.

Defending this kid takes the cake

Tough hill to die on
- Boss34

I hear ya, but some people like to argue the most f**cked up argument.

There are alot of stupid arguements around here.

Defending this kid takes the cake

Tough hill to die on
- Boss34

Nobody's defending the kid. They're criticizing the self-righteous finger wagging at the Coyotes for drafting him. There's a big difference.

Do the one about the vampire named Mabel.
- Der Kaiser

White kid bullies a mentally ill black kid, calls him racial slurs and physically assaults him: People change, he was a kid!

Black kid steals from Wal-mart: HE'S A CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE TRIED AS AN ADULT

I appreciate the reasonable conversation on your end and apologize for any bad attitude on my end.

I think he shouldnt have been drafted at all.

I'm all for 2nd chances, but this is a glaring sociopathic mental issue. Not a mistake. 2nd chances are for mistakes. 1 time type things that happen without thought or YEARS of abuse. no apology to the family or child affected by his behavior. Sorry is a good start to a 2nd chance, you know remorse, understanding and regret.

Bullying and racism are front and center right now.

Theres Good on both sides and Bebest.

Maybe when rae caruth gets out if jail, the Buffalo Bill's sign him? Carolina connection and all. John browns hurt. 5 -2. Record. Why not?
- Boss34

The twitter horde, and the whims and mores of the contemporaneous mob are precisely the reasons many of you are so irrational about this. You should reflect on that statement and all it's subsequent implications. Understand that the party that you frequently champion is working to restore voting rights to people convicted of rape/murder/and violent crimes. (A position I'd be willing to bet you agree with completely, I do as well) I'm not trying to make this political, I'm just putting things in perspective. My opinion on how I would personally build a team, or whether I would allow this guy near my family are again...irrelevant. If this kid is such a bad apple, then the Coyotes will reap the negative consequences of that decision. That kharma should make you happy.

Nobody's defending the kid. They're criticizing the self-righteous finger wagging at the Coyotes for drafting him. There's a big difference.
- buffalofan19

This x 1,000. Well said.

Nobody's defending the kid. They're criticizing the self-righteous finger wagging at the Coyotes for drafting him. There's a big difference.
- buffalofan19

There are many talking about the kid being 14 and deserving a 2nd chance. I don't hear anything about the Coyotes and being self-righteous which is BS. That is in YOUR head.

White kid bullies a mentally ill black kid, calls him racial slurs and physically assaults him: People change, he was a kid!

Black kid steals from Wal-mart: HE'S A CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE TRIED AS AN ADULT
- 3rd GM's the charm

God Bless America

Agents counsel to sam - take as much as you can get, you are riding shotgun with jack. Your points are fluffed.

Where do you get this high probability? In your own brain, yes. You had certain parameters for a sam deal. It falls short and the agent talked him into less ...
..

Cant take his contract at face value. Hes a 52 point guy without eichel. Maybe less

Funny uncleion s. 🙂
- Boss34

Rationale.
Arb, no consideration given for economic conditions, little to no consideration for who he plays with, consideration only for similar deals as RFA and actual production, 60 - 65 point player. Should have resulted in more...IMO 5.75 - 6.00 sh.
Could be wrong. At the same time, doubt it would have gone less than 5.2m.

But it is done, good for the Sabres....unless he pops in 70+ (pace for 82 games) riding with a still improving Jack and a former league MVPer in Hall.

I guess $5.2 for 48 - 60 games is pretty good wages if the season is condensed, which all reports pointing that way now.

Next season is going to be absolutely insane...too bad Jack isn't up also, lol.

White kid bullies a mentally ill black kid, calls him racial slurs and physically assaults him: People change, he was a kid!

Black kid steals from Wal-mart: HE'S A CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE TRIED AS AN ADULT
- 3rd GM's the charm

Yes, everyone should expect legal consequences for criminal actions. This kid received his day in court, so your comparison is not an apt one. Your bizarre obsession with the race of the involved parties illustrates exactly what this is about for you. Very disturbing.

Nobody's defending the kid. They're criticizing the self-righteous finger wagging at the Coyotes for drafting him. There's a big difference.
- buffalofan19

No, no.

They like totally misunderstanding the central point and like to twist the argument.

There are many talking about the kid being 14 and deserving a 2nd chance. I don't hear anything about the Coyotes and being self-righteous which is BS. That is in YOUR head.
- GilPerreault11

You have the demeanor and disposition of a fire and brimstone evangelical.

God Bless America
- Pegullaville

This is just dumb.

You have the demeanor and disposition of a fire and brimstone evangelical.
- SoCalPucks

I take my demeanor notes from many on here, you included.

There are many talking about the kid being 14 and deserving a 2nd chance. I don't hear anything about the Coyotes and being self-righteous which is BS. That is in YOUR head.
- GilPerreault11

The self-righteousness is from people like you, not the Coyotes. You're the one making a judgment based on one article that takes only one side of the story, and another based on the scouting report of a limited sample size of teams. You come to the conclusion that the Coyotes were wrong to draft him despite the fact that you really know nothing of the story other than what the media reports, despite the fact that you don't see any team's real scouting report on the guy, despite the fact that you weren't in on any team's conversations with the player or related parties, and despite the fact that you have absolutely zero idea what else the Coyotes and their background team uncovered before, during and after the incident. That's the epitome of self-righteousness.

It's one thing to say "I'm glad the Sabres didn't draft him" or even "I wouldn't even go near him if I were making the call". It's a completely different thing to criticize the Coyotes for doing so when you have absolutely zero idea of the process they went through to make their decision.

This is just dumb.
- SoCalPucks

Except my arguments have more than 4 letters

The self-righteousness is from people like you, not the Coyotes. You're the one making a judgment based on one article that takes only one side of the story, and another based on the scouting report of a limited sample size of teams. You come to the conclusion that the Coyotes were wrong to draft him despite the fact that you really know nothing of the story other than what the media reports, despite the fact that you don't see any team's real scouting report on the guy, despite the fact that you weren't in on any team's conversations with the player or related parties, and despite the fact that you have absolutely zero idea what else the Coyotes and their background team uncovered before, during and after the incident. That's the epitome of self-righteousness.

It's one thing to say "I'm glad the Sabres didn't draft him" or even "I wouldn't even go near him if I were making the call". It's a completely different thing to criticize the Coyotes for doing so when you have absolutely zero idea of the process they went through to make their decision.
- buffalofan19

I am very curious what the other side of the story would be regarding the bold?

The self-righteousness is from people like you, not the Coyotes. You're the one making a judgment based on one article that takes only one side of the story, and another based on the scouting report of a limited sample size of teams. You come to the conclusion that the Coyotes were wrong to draft him despite the fact that you really know nothing of the story other than what the media reports, despite the fact that you don't see any team's real scouting report on the guy, despite the fact that you weren't in on any team's conversations with the player or related parties, and despite the fact that you have absolutely zero idea what else the Coyotes and their background team uncovered before, during and after the incident. That's the epitome of self-righteousness.

It's one thing to say "I'm glad the Sabres didn't draft him" or even "I wouldn't even go near him if I were making the call". It's a completely different thing to criticize the Coyotes for doing so when you have absolutely zero idea of the process they went through to make their decision.
- buffalofan19

Solid A+

I am very curious what the other side of the story would be regarding the bold?
- kingcong39

He was bullied, beaten and otherwise abused as a child.
Isn't this what studies have proven their profile to be in many cases?
I'm no expert though...could be completely wrong my own selfie.

I am very curious what the other side of the story would be regarding the bold?
- kingcong39

I don't know. It could be completely accurate. It could be exaggerated. There could be even worse things that were left out. It really doesn't matter.

The point is, every single one of us here are miles away from being anywhere close to the story, and don't have anywhere near enough information to decide that the Arizona Coyotes, a team that is both minority owned and minority operated in probably the most white-dominated sport in North America, were in the wrong to draft him.

This is just honesty.
- SoCalPucks

FIFY

White kid bullies a mentally ill black kid, calls him racial slurs and physically assaults him: People change, he was a kid!

Black kid steals from Wal-mart: HE'S A CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE TRIED AS AN ADULT
- 3rd GM's the charm

Not my circus, not my monkeys with respect to who the Coyotes pick. If he ever makes the show, he deserves to have his teeth kicked in several times.

Hopefully he can somehow turn it into a positive and become an advocate for anti-bullying similar to how some former KKK members become advocates for anti racism

Not my circus, not my monkeys with respect to who the Coyotes pick. If he ever makes the show, he deserves to have his teeth kicked in several times.

Hopefully he can somehow turn it into a positive and become an advocate for anti-bullying similar to how some former KKK members become advocates for anti racism
- jcragcrumple

Are you sure that's the best metaphor to use here?

Are you sure that's the best metaphor to use here?
- buffalofan19

Interesting that's where your mind went

Horrible stupid poop is one thing.

This is beyond. People on the internet....

How would you feel if this was your kid? Brother? Cousin?

(frank)ing jerkoff . They pissed on a sucker and gave it to a mentally disabled kid. 14 or not.
- Boss34

I would hope we would help the my kid, brother or cousin, he was 14.

They're projected to be an 82-85 point team. With adding a top 25 forward thanks to the coach.

What. A. Turnaround.
- sbroads24

Damn season is over I guess. I would wager than will be better than that. And yes, i would do an internet wager.

Point total is a bad barometer since it might be a shorten season. But I would put them in the Playoffs next year.