PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Yep. The radio schlocks can kiss Barclay Who?drow and Baked Coldman's asses all they want, but if Vasilevski isn't killing it every night, Hedman playing 30 minutes of elite two-way play or Kucherov and Point not dominating everybody, they don't win. - AdamFrench
True.. Everyone just focused in on Coleman scoring a goal in game 6.. Not on Vasilievskiy for getting a shutout |
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gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON Joined: 02.01.2016
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As would Married with Children.. - PatC80
Now that was a great show! Al Bundy 4 TDs for Polk High in the championship game! 👍 |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Only for you and Canada Cup. It's easy for the rest of us. - AdamFrench
Shouldn't you be interfering in the US election from Russia? |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Now that was a great show. 👍 - gergeswillems
yes, it was... It would get crushed today though. |
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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Steve Carrell I believe even said so. People have been wishing to see Michael Scott's take on todays issue but Carrell even knows that it wouldn't be appropriate. - Aaron_85
I think it would be out of character for Michael Scott to be up to date with current events. He's more likely to skip to the funnies and then cheat on the crossword and leave it finished conspicuously draped across his desk.
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Now that was a great show. 👍 - gergeswillems
It was incredibly low-brow, and I would never watch a show that stupid.
Especially the one where the aliens kept stealing Al's socks to save the universe.
Or the one where Bubba Smith played Spare Tire Dixon.
Never watched it. |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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21peter
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Peter I Island Joined: 11.18.2014
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yes, it was... It would get crushed today though. - PatC80
Most old shows would... - and most of todays' shows would get crushed showed back in the day... |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Most old shows would... - and most of todays' shows would get crushed showed back in the day... - 21peter
that's fair. I think a lot of today's television shows would fail back in the day |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I think they settle at 2 x 1.5. - Kinger34
Maybe he'd head back to the KHL.
Total guesswork here but if you factor in that the Leafs and Millstein have a really good relationship and that he can opt to play overseas ....the Leafs probably acquiesce a bit if they like him long term. Maybe it's a one-year deal so he can have a show me year. If they play hardball on a 2 yr deal it might come with some consequences. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Most old shows would... - and most of todays' shows would get crushed showed back in the day... - 21peter
Change
It happens.
Most shows today on network tv would be too edgy or violent for "back in the day tv". |
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Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 11.30.2009
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*goes back to wanking it on a zoom call - senstroll
Careful, you might get fired. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Connor Brown wants 4.8 ...
Nice little bottom 6 guy on a decent team but those flattering #'s in Ottawa are going to make him an overpay. |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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Maybe, Kerfoot and Holl for Weegar and Acciari? - PatC80
I think Florida loses that deal all day long. We'd also be trading out $5.5m in cap and taking in around $3.6m. I'm not sure Florida is looking to go that way. Although I would note that in terms of actual dollars, Kerfoot was paid $5m last year, and a $1m signing bonus already this year, so his actual salary this year is $3.6 and will be $2.7 in each of the next two years. Holl had a $1m signing bonus that's been paid out. The remainder of his 3 year / $2M deal is salary.
That said, if Florida, with about $12M in cap space, is unwilling to pay Weegar, he either wants too much or they are not interesting in increasing their cap hit. |
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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I think Florida loses that deal all day long. We'd also be trading out $5.5m in cap and taking in around $3.6m. I'm not sure Florida is looking to go that way. Although I would note that in terms of actual dollars, Kerfoot was paid $5m last year, and a $1m signing bonus already this year, so his actual salary this year is $3.6 and will be $2.7 in each of the next two years. Holl had a $1m signing bonus that's been paid out. The remainder of his 3 year / $2M deal is salary.
That said, if Florida, with about $12M in cap space, is unwilling to pay Weegar, he either wants too much or they are not interesting in increasing their cap hit. - Monkeypunk
The guys that are closer to UFA are always tougher negotiations. Brown's got one year left so he can get a one year deal then walk. How much is he worth on the trade market? Big 1 yr arb award walking him into free agency. Sens need to get him locked up if they like him.
Weegar - how many years until he's a UFA? 1 or 2 I think? If so arbitration becomes really tricky.
*update - just read that Weegar becomes a UFA next summer. So, do you want a guy that could come with a one year arb and then can walk? Only if you know you like him and can lock him up long term. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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The guys that are closer to UFA are always tougher negotiations. Brown's got one year left so he can get a one year deal then walk. How much is he worth on the trade market? Big 1 yr arb award walking him into free agency. Sens need to get him locked up if they like him.
Weegar - how many years until he's a UFA? 1 or 2 I think? If so arbitration becomes really tricky.
*update - just read that Weegar becomes a UFA next summer. So, do you want a guy that could come with a one year arb and then can walk? Only if you know you like him and can lock him up long term. - The Law
Isn't the idea that the Leafs should win a cup next season with jumbo joe?
I say go all in at this point.
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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON Joined: 06.12.2017
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Only for you and Canada Cup. It's easy for the rest of us. - AdamFrench
Literally the easiest part of my day. And I don't do poop these days. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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I think Florida loses that deal all day long. We'd also be trading out $5.5m in cap and taking in around $3.6m. I'm not sure Florida is looking to go that way. Although I would note that in terms of actual dollars, Kerfoot was paid $5m last year, and a $1m signing bonus already this year, so his actual salary this year is $3.6 and will be $2.7 in each of the next two years. Holl had a $1m signing bonus that's been paid out. The remainder of his 3 year / $2M deal is salary.
That said, if Florida, with about $12M in cap space, is unwilling to pay Weegar, he either wants too much or they are not interesting in increasing their cap hit. - Monkeypunk
I think the Leafs structured their deals that way to make them easier to trade..
Keeping salaries low, and having the cap artificially high actually benefits the Panthers.. I think it comes down to what Weegar gets at his arbitration hearing..
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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Shouldn't you be interfering in the US election from Russia? - Atomic Wedgie
I stole Hunter Moron's laptop. |
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Jello Bialowas
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Diana Ross is my Mom - On Joined: 05.30.2018
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I'm not old enough to remember these shows.
But "The Office" is my all time favourite show and I'm pretty sure it would be chased off the air aswell. - Leafs43
UK version |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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The guys that are closer to UFA are always tougher negotiations. Brown's got one year left so he can get a one year deal then walk. How much is he worth on the trade market? Big 1 yr arb award walking him into free agency. Sens need to get him locked up if they like him.
Weegar - how many years until he's a UFA? 1 or 2 I think? If so arbitration becomes really tricky.
*update - just read that Weegar becomes a UFA next summer. So, do you want a guy that could come with a one year arb and then can walk? Only if you know you like him and can lock him up long term. - The Law
That's my line of thinking with Weegar as well.. If the agree to a 1 yr deal to avoid arbitration, then they'll be screwed next year.. Assuming, he continues to progress as a top pairing guy in Florida. |
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Leafs43
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: ON Joined: 06.16.2010
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UK version - Jello Bialowas
Tried watching multiple times.
Couldn't get past 10 minutes.
I may have an aversion to the British accent.
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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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Isn't the idea that the Leafs should win a cup next season with jumbo joe?
I say go all in at this point. - Scabeh
I think they are. I wasn't talking about Weegar and the joys of arbitration from a Leaf perspective.
For the Leafs I like Weegar but I don't think they have the Cap space to make it work.
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mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto Joined: 02.01.2012
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Isn't the idea that the Leafs should win a cup next season with jumbo joe?
I say go all in at this point. - Scabeh
Let's just win a playoff round and worry about going all in later
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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The guys that are closer to UFA are always tougher negotiations. Brown's got one year left so he can get a one year deal then walk. How much is he worth on the trade market? Big 1 yr arb award walking him into free agency. Sens need to get him locked up if they like him.
Weegar - how many years until he's a UFA? 1 or 2 I think? If so arbitration becomes really tricky.
*update - just read that Weegar becomes a UFA next summer. So, do you want a guy that could come with a one year arb and then can walk? Only if you know you like him and can lock him up long term. - The Law
He's an RFA, so you need to decide how much you like him I guess.
The discussion started with the idea of acquiring Weegar, and really our trade currency with any discernible value is Kerfoot, Dermott, Holl and Liljegren.
If you want to acquire Weegar and fit him under the cap, then you probably need to move a Holl or Kerfoot, depending on the salary expectations out of Weegar's camp. I think a projection that had him at $1.6 for 1 year, but up to $4m over 4 years.
If you move out a Kerfoot, you still want to replace him. It does open the door for Robertson, but is he ready for 2nd line wing? Can Mikheyev manage 2nd line wing? Who takes on the 3C role if Thornton can't manage that amount of 5v5 ice reliably?
On a side note - I had thought Weegar would be cheaper, but if he were a $4m / year cap hit, then Holl + Kerfoot, as Pat suggested, is probably a cap equivalent. |
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