trading their first rounder for Brady Skjei was a bit suspect I thought, especially with the expansion draft coming up

if I was running Carolina I'd probably protect Slavin, Pesce and Fleury, leaving Seattle their pick from Skjei or Gardiner
- jimbro83

Forgetting Dougie Hamilton? If they want to keep all the core pieces of their roster, Carolina either moves someone out or deals asset(s) to Seattle for "draft pick considerations." (Actually, they may need to do the latter no matter what)

Forgetting Dougie Hamilton? If they want to keep all the core pieces of their roster, Carolina either moves someone out or deals asset(s) to Seattle for "draft pick considerations." (Actually, they may need to do the latter no matter what)
- Quillanrocks

Under a flat cap, the Hurricanes will have $30 million in cap space next season with Dougie Hamilton and Andrei Svechnikov yet to sign.

They'll also need a goalie, but the core would remain intact pretty easily.

Under a flat cap, the Hurricanes will have $30 million in cap space next season with Dougie Hamilton and Andrei Svechnikov yet to sign.

They'll also need a goalie, but the core would remain intact pretty easily.
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Does Carolina have any appetite for extending Hamilton? If so, I assume they'd wait until after Seattle expansion draft, so they can worry less about protecting him. You're right, Carolina is in better shape than I thought. I come back to it again, though.... rather than losing Skjei to Seattle, if they'd like to get a tremendous player back for a package that includes one of their defenseman . . . Carolina shouldn't miss out on an opportunity to land Laine, IMO

Forgetting Dougie Hamilton? If they want to keep all the core pieces of their roster, Carolina either moves someone out or deals asset(s) to Seattle for "draft pick considerations." (Actually, they may need to do the latter no matter what)
- Quillanrocks

Hamilton isn't signed, so I am not including him in their expansion concerns

Carolina just signed Jeremy Bracco by the way

Does Carolina have any appetite for extending Hamilton? If so, I assume they'd wait until after Seattle expansion draft, so they can worry less about protecting him. You're right, Carolina is in better shape than I thought. I come back to it again, though.... rather than losing Skjei to Seattle, if they'd like to get a tremendous player back for a package that includes one of their defenseman . . . Carolina shouldn't miss out on an opportunity to land Laine, IMO
- Quillanrocks

Yes, they're signing Hamilton. The owner went on the radio the other day raving about Dougie Hamilton as a person, not just as a player. They love who he is and what he quietly does in the community.

I'd do Skjei + for Laine easily though

Ben Shelley: Hurricanes may have a difficult time trading Jake Gardiner
- Ben.Shelley

I think at this point, some teams might have to wait for other teams to get long-term injuries to key players that need replacing. It is going to be hard to move any contract right now, especially with quality free agents still out on the market.

Yes, they're signing Hamilton. The owner went on the radio the other day raving about Dougie Hamilton as a person, not just as a player. They love who he is and what he quietly does in the community.

I'd do Skjei + for Laine easily though
- BINGO!

If I'm the Jets GM (and probably a good thing I'm not! LOL) these are the players I would be interested in (that I feel could be realistically included in a deal for Patrik Laine) . . .

Forwards: Necas, Foegele, Geekie (love that name! . . . and a Manitoba boy)
Defense: Fleury, Pesce, Skjei

Keeping in mind there are other assets Winnipeg looks to have available (Roslovic, Niku, Perreault (salary dump), perhaps Vesalainen?, +++?) whom would you (or any other Hurricanes or Jets fans) package in a deal? Of course, depending on te quality/quantity, draft picks are in play, also.

Yes, they're signing Hamilton. The owner went on the radio the other day raving about Dougie Hamilton as a person, not just as a player. They love who he is and what he quietly does in the community.

I'd do Skjei + for Laine easily though
- BINGO!

Skjei for Laine, LOL

You mean the guy that might be left unprotected in the expansion draft? He’s gonna be the foundation of a trade for a 22 year old, 6’5”, superstar goal-scorer?

Ok

Skjei for Laine, LOL

You mean the guy that might be left unprotected in the expansion draft? He’s gonna be the foundation of a trade for a 22 year old, 6’5”, superstar goal-scorer?

Ok
- AxlRose91

Not straight up, obviously.

Not straight up, obviously.
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So, let’s say WPG offered you Laine for Slavin and a 2nd round pick. Would you really not do that?

So, let’s say WPG offered you Laine for Slavin and a 2nd round pick. Would you really not do that?
- AxlRose91

Definitely not. Harder to find a guy who does what Slavin does than it is to get goal scoring. And the Canes were 15th in the league in goals scored last year and added Vincent Trocheck. Not in a huge rush to create a weakness just to add more goals.

Not only that, but Laine is likely going to need a big raise soon. Not sure we can afford to keep Svechnikov And Hamilton And Necas AND Laine AND add a goaltender.

Definitely not. Harder to find a guy who does what Slavin does than it is to get goal scoring. And the Canes were 15th in the league in goals scored last year and added Vincent Trocheck. Not in a huge rush to create a weakness just to add more goals.

Not only that, but Laine is likely going to need a big raise soon. Not sure we can afford to keep Svechnikov And Hamilton And Necas AND Laine AND add a goaltender.
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Ok, fair enough. I suppose the contract piece is a massive consideration

Ok, fair enough. I suppose the contract piece is a massive consideration
- AxlRose91

Nah, I’m back pedalling on this last comment. You seem like a reasonable guy, so I was just being friendly, and pretending like you made sense

Truth is, any GM who refused to trade Slavin for Laine should be fired. I know Carolina fans over value him, but he’s not an elite player.

Superstars like Laine do not willingly sign with Carolina, so if you have an opportunity to acquire one by sacrificing a reasonably strong defensive-minded d-man, you do it

Nah, I’m back pedalling on this last comment. You seem like a reasonable guy, so I was just being friendly, and pretending like you made sense

Truth is, any GM who refused to trade Slavin for Laine should be fired. I know Carolina fans over value him, but he’s not an elite player.

Superstars like Laine do not willingly sign with Carolina, so if you have an opportunity to acquire one by sacrificing a reasonably strong defensive-minded d-man, you do it
- AxlRose91

Dude, as a fellow Jets fan I think you're way off and that you should prepare yourself for disappointment! LOL Any trade with Carolina is not going to get the Jets Slavin. Defenseman are valued higher than wingers 8 days a week and Slavin is a darn good one! Whatever return Winnipeg gets for Laine--from ANY team--is likely going to disappoint you! They'll probably get a couple of decent pieces and perhaps some potential (picks/prospects), but the deal will likely be quantity more than the quality we're hoping for.

I'd also like to point out that while you keep insisting that Slavin is overrated, it seems real important to you that people agree with you in a trade proposal that Laine is more than enough to acquire him! Sometimes it's not about how good the player is or how good he could be, it's about the team, it's makeup, chemistry, and balance. You win with players like Slavin; you entertain with players like Laine. (that could change if he matures a la Ovechkin) BINGO! is right. Slavin's importance to the Hurricanes is greater than what Laine's would be. Hell, Laine's importance to the Winnipeg Jets isn't even that high, obviously!

Lastly, I would bet you that Laine would sign with Carolina if given the opportunity. They have a great young team and he's had some fun playing with Aho on the international scene. Some consistent goaltending and lookout!

Hard NO to Gardiner, but if you're interested in making your Expansion Draft choices a little easier, I'm sure the Jets would love to talk to you about one of Pesce, Skjei, or Fleury. Perhaps you'd be interested in a Roslovic and/or Niku? Maybe a Veselainen?? And If Slavin's available, boy do we have a treat for you! We also have this guy called Laine you may have heard of . . . Happy to add him to the discussion for someone like Slavin!
- Quillanrocks

Jets should have no interest in Skjei!! Please no

Yes, they're signing Hamilton. The owner went on the radio the other day raving about Dougie Hamilton as a person, not just as a player. They love who he is and what he quietly does in the community.

I'd do Skjei + for Laine easily though
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Like snow in October, this sucks balls

Dude, as a fellow Jets fan I think you're way off and that you should prepare yourself for disappointment! LOL Any trade with Carolina is not going to get the Jets Slavin. Defenseman are valued higher than wingers 8 days a week and Slavin is a darn good one! Whatever return Winnipeg gets for Laine--from ANY team--is likely going to disappoint you! They'll probably get a couple of decent pieces and perhaps some potential (picks/prospects), but the deal will likely be quantity more than the quality we're hoping for.

I'd also like to point out that while you keep insisting that Slavin is overrated, it seems real important to you that people agree with you in a trade proposal that Laine is more than enough to acquire him! Sometimes it's not about how good the player is or how good he could be, it's about the team, it's makeup, chemistry, and balance. You win with players like Slavin; you entertain with players like Laine. (that could change if he matures a la Ovechkin) BINGO! is right. Slavin's importance to the Hurricanes is greater than what Laine's would be. Hell, Laine's importance to the Winnipeg Jets isn't even that high, obviously!

Lastly, I would bet you that Laine would sign with Carolina if given the opportunity. They have a great young team and he's had some fun playing with Aho on the international scene. Some consistent goaltending and lookout!
- Quillanrocks

Well, golly gee

Exclamation point!!!!

Dude, as a fellow Jets fan I think you're way off and that you should prepare yourself for disappointment! LOL Any trade with Carolina is not going to get the Jets Slavin. Defenseman are valued higher than wingers 8 days a week and Slavin is a darn good one! Whatever return Winnipeg gets for Laine--from ANY team--is likely going to disappoint you! They'll probably get a couple of decent pieces and perhaps some potential (picks/prospects), but the deal will likely be quantity more than the quality we're hoping for.

I'd also like to point out that while you keep insisting that Slavin is overrated, it seems real important to you that people agree with you in a trade proposal that Laine is more than enough to acquire him! Sometimes it's not about how good the player is or how good he could be, it's about the team, it's makeup, chemistry, and balance. You win with players like Slavin; you entertain with players like Laine. (that could change if he matures a la Ovechkin) BINGO! is right. Slavin's importance to the Hurricanes is greater than what Laine's would be. Hell, Laine's importance to the Winnipeg Jets isn't even that high, obviously!

Lastly, I would bet you that Laine would sign with Carolina if given the opportunity. They have a great young team and he's had some fun playing with Aho on the international scene. Some consistent goaltending and lookout!
- Quillanrocks

Jets fans are going to be very disappointed given the insane Laine valuations I have read. Also you say you win with players like Slavin. The Cains have not won poop unless being close is now winning.