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PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM ET
i think fletch's goal is to compete for the 10th overall pick
- 2Real


Or it could be to build a team that gets knocked out in the second round. He’s made a career out of doing that.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:00 PM ET
Schmidt to VAN for a 3rd
- xShoot4WarAmpsx



Solid pick up for the Canucks . Gotta admit Vegas sure are bold. I agree it will be tough to find a taker for Fluery but I’m sure with a bit of a sweetener and or some retention of salary there will be some teams that may bite.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM ET
So I would think it’s obvious that the flyers didn’t want to take on Schmidt’s contract. While Charlie says the flyers didn’t have the cap they could have made room. Appears they settled for Gus at 3 mil. If Charlie is right about not enough cap then the flyers could be done, that would be disappointing. They could trade ghost but the market seems tight.
- wcorvette


Charlie is not correct. They absolutely had the cap space.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM ET
we couldn't match that?
- 2Real


Doesnt matter if we could. We had to be on a list of 10 teams he is willing to go to.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Oct 12 @ 9:03 PM ET
They desperately want a taker for Fleury, but good luck with that without retaining a big chunk. Trading Schmidt would get them much of the way there but not all.
- bmeltzer


Right now, if the want to move Fleury and must hold $$ back, they still have to dump contracts. This means they have to move Schmidt or Marchessault, or both. Could the Flyers use either one?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:05 PM ET
Doesnt matter if we could. We had to be on a list of 10 teams he is willing to go to.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Where is the list of the teams?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:05 PM ET
Right now, if the want to move Fleury and must hold $$ back, they still have to dump contracts. This means they have to move Schmidt or Marchessault, or both. Could the Flyers use either one?
- Letterkenney


Schmidt’s already gone.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:05 PM ET
A third round pick has what 10% chance to make the NHL? They gave Schmidt away for nothing.
- PLindbergh31



So you know for a fact the Flyers weren't on his no trade list?

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 9:06 PM ET
Doesnt matter if we could. We had to be on a list of 10 teams he is willing to go to.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

so philly is no longer a desirable destination
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:07 PM ET
Charlie is not correct. They absolutely had the cap space.
- MJL


That really depends on what Myers and NoPa sign for. We had 8.685 mill in cap space before Gustufsson.

Schmidts cap hit is 5.95. That would have left us with 2.7 mill to sign Myers and NoPa. I still think Myers get 3 mill
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM ET
I think it's even less than that. If I understand correctly, athletes/entertainers pay taxes based on the city they play/perform in, not where they're based. Only 1/2 the games are at home, so the athlete/performer still pays the same amount of taxes for road games (LV & StL excepted).
- Levit8


You are right, but its even more complicated than that. He moved to the Pacific division. Two states there - Calgary and Alberta, have no income tax (or very little iirc). But California - where the Sharks and Kings are, have a high rate.

In St. Louis, there is a 1% city tax rate above and beyond the MO state tax that PL mentioned.

Then there is the whole issue of property taxes and price of real estate. I suspect where he lives in Las Vegas will be more expensive than St. Louis.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM ET
That really depends on what Myers and NoPa sign for. We had 8.685 mill in cap space before Gustufsson.

Schmidts cap hit is 5.95. That would have left us with 2.7 mill to sign Myers and NoPa. I still think Myers get 3 mill

- xShoot4WarAmpsx




Depends on the term, but I think he will be closer to 2
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:11 PM ET
Where is the list of the teams?
- PLindbergh31


No list has been released that I know of. Just saying we would need to be on it. It is common for players to want to stay in the same conference though. He might not have wanted to go to the east. Maybe some more info will be released later. What is interesting is that I heard VAN was close to acquiring OEL before they stepped away last week and now they get Schmidt for just a 3rd.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM ET
So you know for a fact the Flyers weren't on his no trade list?
- MBFlyerfan


No. Do you know that they were on his no trade list?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM ET
That really depends on what Myers and NoPa sign for. We had 8.685 mill in cap space before Gustufsson.

Schmidts cap hit is 5.95. That would have left us with 2.7 mill to sign Myers and NoPa. I still think Myers get 3 mill

- xShoot4WarAmpsx



But they could make the space. Either he wanted to stay west or fletch didn’t want the term
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:14 PM ET
No. Do you know that they were on his no trade list?
- PLindbergh31



I dont. But you are in here mouthing off as if you know that they weren't.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:15 PM ET
No list has been released that I know of. Just saying we would need to be on it. It is common for players to want to stay in the same conference though. He might not have wanted to go to the east. Maybe some more info will be released later. What is interesting is that I heard VAN was close to acquiring OEL before they stepped away last week and now they get Schmidt for just a 3rd.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Ok but how does a 10 team no trade list eliminate the Eastern Conference?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
Ok but how does a 10 team no trade list eliminate the Eastern Conference?
- PLindbergh31



It doesn’t but once they knew a 3rd was the price how many teams you think were interested? Enough where if he wanted to stay west Vegas could accommodate him
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
Schmidt’s already gone.
- landros 2


Just saw that after posting the comment
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:18 PM ET
Charlie is not correct. They absolutely had the cap space.
- MJL


He's saying that, unless Ghost was moved out and even with Braun taking a 2M paycut, they couldn't have taken on Schmidt, done the rest of what they still need to do this offseason (re-sign Myers and Patrick) and have wiggle room left for the season. He's not saying that adding Schmidt by itself would have put them over the cap (it wouldn't have).
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:20 PM ET
It doesn’t but once they knew a 3rd was the price how many teams you think were interested? Enough where if he wanted to stay west Vegas could accommodate him
- wcorvette


A third round pick is nothing. Holmgren traded a second for the corpse of Pavel Kubina who was a rental.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:23 PM ET
A third round pick is nothing. Holmgren traded a second for the corpse of Pavel Kubina who was a rental.
- PLindbergh31

MJL defended that trade
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 12 @ 9:24 PM ET
Yes Vegas were in cap trouble, but does this hurt Ghost’s trade value if we are truly trying to move him?
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:26 PM ET
so North philly is no longer a desirable destination
- 2Real

Never been 😜
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:30 PM ET
Aquire 10 of them and boom, nhl player.
- ClaudeFather


Nope, still only a 65% chance.
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