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mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 12 @ 6:26 PM ET
Gustafson is Niskanen replacement
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:27 PM ET
Gustafson is Niskanen replacement
- mydoglicks

that's depressing
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 6:28 PM ET
Apparently, in 18-19 (his best season), he played across from Keith in the first pairing, on pp1, not on PK, and Provorov is similar to Keith in the style they play.

1 year experiment?

- PT21



Keith started 58% of his shifts in the o-zone, which made him a good partner for Gus. Conversely, Provorov even this past season was a 45% o-zone guy who normally drew the toughest D-matchups on his pair (although sometimes they had 6-5 do that).

I don't see a fit. Provorov's pair carries too much D-zone burden.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Oct 12 @ 6:29 PM ET
Erik Ghostafsson
- 2Real


Well done
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 6:29 PM ET
Gustafson is Niskanen replacement
- mydoglicks



He is not, unless you want the Flyers GAA to soar when he's on the ice. He's an O-zone start guy. Niskanen (and Provorov) were comfortable with more than half their starts in D-zone, and it tougher matchups.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:29 PM ET
Well done
- Big_E_88

that's why they pay me the big bucks
Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Oct 12 @ 6:29 PM ET
As bruceflyers predicted, this signing has another Stanley Cup written all over it.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 12 @ 6:30 PM ET
AV doesn’t like ghost; why will he like new Gus

3 million for a bottom paring guy? Wow
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:31 PM ET
AV doesn’t like ghost; why will he like new Gus

3 million for a bottom paring guy? Wow

- login

cause he's only on the team for a year
peesinwind
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: columbia, MD
Joined: 06.27.2015

Oct 12 @ 6:32 PM ET
This is really a lateral move at best albeit it is cheaper. What it really says is that there is something else in the works.
- MJL


Agreed. I don’t see them going into the season with both Erik Gustafsson and Ghost on the roster. They just seem so similar in what they bring and don’t bring. Is that correct?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 12 @ 6:36 PM ET
Keith started 58% of his shifts in the o-zone, which made him a good partner for Gus. Conversely, Provorov even this past season was a 45% o-zone guy who normally drew the toughest D-matchups on his pair (although sometimes they had 6-5 do that).

I don't see a fit. Provorov's pair carries too much D-zone burden.

- bmeltzer


Very valid point, Bill.

Here is the guilty culprit who led me down that chain of thought (no clue who he is)

https://twitter.com/B_Som...tatus/1315770855927013376
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 12 @ 6:36 PM ET
As bruceflyers predicted, this signing has another Stanley Cup written all over it.
- Heywood Jablome

For what team I wonder.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 12 @ 6:38 PM ET
cause he's only on the team for a year
- 2Real

ANd? Just don’t see the fit
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 12 @ 6:38 PM ET
AV doesn’t like ghost; why will he like new Gus

3 million for a bottom paring guy? Wow

- login

When they get rid of Ghost he’ll be a cheaper more reliable version of Ghost?
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 12 @ 6:41 PM ET
When they get rid of Ghost he’ll be a cheaper more reliable version of Ghost?
- hereticpride

Will he be more reliable? Either way he is a bottom pairing guy, do you disagree ?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
Apparently, in 18-19 (his best season), he played across from Keith in the first pairing, on pp1, not on PK, and Provorov is similar to Keith in the style they play.

1 year experiment?

- PT21


Um ...maybe? A one year experiment . Definitely help the pp....might be a prelude to something else. Kinda tells me that Ghost is on his way out, which I kinda thought they might Give him another chance.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Oct 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
"not an ideal first-pair defenseman"


now thats an understatement.

I'm not going full PBrendl55, but I'm... less than enthusiastic about Gus 2.0.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 6:44 PM ET
AV doesn’t like ghost; why will he like new Gus

3 million for a bottom paring guy? Wow

- login


3 million for a D-man who is a year removed from a 17 goal, 60 point season and will save the team $1.5M in cap if/when they can deal Ghost. Also buys York and Zamula a year of development, and he doesn't have to be Expansion Draft protected. Also equally comfortable at LD or RD.

Gustafsson has been a 2nd pairing, 20-min guy, but you need your 3rd pair to be able to split the bulk of the D-zone minutes with the top pair. If the Flyers can trade Gostisbehere, they'll actually have more cap space than they did before this move and also replace the offensive pop.

I don't think this, by itself, was more than a lateral move. But it's far from a terrible one.

Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Oct 12 @ 6:45 PM ET
Very valid point, Bill.

Here is the guilty culprit who led me down that chain of thought (no clue who he is)

https://twitter.com/B_Som...tatus/1315770855927013376

- PT21


Ah, OK.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 12 @ 6:47 PM ET
Will he be more reliable? Either way he is a bottom pairing guy, do you disagree ?
- login

Probably. I can’t see swapping him and Hagg around depending what end of the ice theyre at.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Oct 12 @ 6:51 PM ET
Well as people pointed out guessing something else will occur.

And from what I’ve seen yeah. Ghost is a little more elusive when healthy. Erik has more physicality.

Can’t wait to see what’s next.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Oct 12 @ 6:52 PM ET
3 million for a D-man who is a year removed from a 17 goal, 60 point season and will save the team $1.5M in cap if/when they can deal Ghost. Also buys York and Zamula a year of development, and he doesn't have to be Expansion Draft protected. Also equally comfortable at LD or RD.

Gustafsson has been a 2nd pairing, 20-min guy, but you need your 3rd pair to be able to split the bulk of the D-zone minutes with the top pair. If the Flyers can trade Gostisbehere, they'll actually have more cap space than they did before this move and also replace the offensive pop.

I don't think this, by itself, was more than a lateral move. But it's far from a terrible one.

- bmeltzer

His 60 point season was likely an outlier. Playing him in your top 4 is not what a cup contending team will do. No matter who they sign gives the young guys another tear of development so that’s a moot point. Expansion draft protection again is overrated; if you have 4 d you need to protect that is a good thing no? Didn’t seem like there was any demand for his services.

So at the end Of the day if he ends up on your 3rd pair is that good cap management? what happens if they don’t move ghost? No given at all they do.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 12 @ 6:53 PM ET
So ghost will probably be waived? It seems he won’t be traded if the same guy was available for free and less money

Waive ghost
Sign Ap
Trade sanheim for Laine
Move g to third line center

Cup
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Oct 12 @ 6:53 PM ET
3 million for a D-man who is a year removed from a 17 goal, 60 point season and will save the team $1.5M in cap if/when they can deal Ghost. Also buys York and Zamula a year of development, and he doesn't have to be Expansion Draft protected. Also equally comfortable at LD or RD.

Gustafsson has been a 2nd pairing, 20-min guy, but you need your 3rd pair to be able to split the bulk of the D-zone minutes with the top pair. If the Flyers can trade Gostisbehere, they'll actually have more cap space than they did before this move and also replace the offensive pop.

I don't think this, by itself, was more than a lateral move. But it's far from a terrible one.

- bmeltzer



Thanks Bill for the reasonable analysis of this signing.
Bayareaflyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.10.2008

Oct 12 @ 6:54 PM ET
3 million for a D-man who is a year removed from a 17 goal, 60 point season and will save the team $1.5M in cap if/when they can deal Ghost. Also buys York and Zamula a year of development, and he doesn't have to be Expansion Draft protected. Also equally comfortable at LD or RD.

Gustafsson has been a 2nd pairing, 20-min guy, but you need your 3rd pair to be able to split the bulk of the D-zone minutes with the top pair. If the Flyers can trade Gostisbehere, they'll actually have more cap space than they did before this move and also replace the offensive pop.

I don't think this, by itself, was more than a lateral move. But it's far from a terrible one.

- bmeltzer

He was -6 with his 17 goal, 60 point season
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