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anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Oct 13 @ 11:02 AM ET
the last 2 days are the canucks fan base to a fcuking T.

nothing happens = sky is falling
good trade = benning is the bestest gm ever; we're contenders again!!!!!!

to both sides, take it down a fcuking notch. the team is still taking a step back next season. the cap is still an issue and will take another season (at least) to correct.

- RealityChecker

I think we still need a top 6 winger bad. Oh and also don't tell me what to do!
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:04 AM ET
Great article on how the Canucks really made the cap work for them.

https://nhl.nbcsports.com...mors-canucks-free-agents/

- Marwood

I can see why you liked it.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 13 @ 11:06 AM ET

- RealityChecker

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
Vegas isn’t handing a divisional rival a top pairing dman
- CanuckDon



This post is pure gold
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Oct 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
The fact anyone can find a way to be negative about a trade like this is absolutely mind blowing. That may end up being one of the best trades this franchise ever makes
- Jkuzzi


It's not the best trade in franchise history, until we win a Cup, no trade is the best/greatest. We have franchise defining ones like Tiger for Rick Vaive or Ronning, Momesso, Courtnall and Dirk for Garth Butcher and Dan Quinn or the whole Linden for Bertuzzi trade tree that just now ended with Markstrom signing with Calgary. Thing is, even all those trades still haven't won us a Stanley Cup, and until they do, we have no real BEST or GREATEST trade in history or GM for that matter IMHO.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:07 AM ET
Gaudette wears #88...Schmidt is gonna have to change numbers, my guess is he takes Tanev’s old #8 as Donnie would say on the radio.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:09 AM ET
I expect Schmidt to be with Edler on the top pairing, but I also expect to see the top 4 defensemen playing about 23 minutes each.
- Reubenkincade

Im with codes, highly unlikely they play myers/hughes together imo. Edler makes much more sense with myers given myers inabilities in his own end. Schmidt/hughes makes much more sense imo.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
Rick Dhaliwal
@DhaliwalSports
Texting with Vegas GM Kelly McCrimmon about Nate Schmidt : “Nate is a really good player. LS but plays right. Character and charisma through the roof. I mentioned yesterday, only one scenario where he’d be moved, and this was it. You’ll love him.”
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:11 AM ET
It's not the best trade in franchise history, until we win a Cup, no trade is the best/greatest. We have franchise defining ones like Tiger for Rick Vaive or Ronning, Momesso, Courtnall and Dirk for Garth Butcher and Dan Quinn or the whole Linden for Bertuzzi trade tree that just now ended with Markstrom signing with Calgary. Thing is, even all those trades still haven't won us a Stanley Cup, and until they do, we have no real BEST or GREATEST trade in history or GM for that matter IMHO.
- DariusKnight

WTF.....sorry this is garbage, just because you haven’t won a Cup doesn’t mean you can’t make a good or bad trade. This is far from the best Canucks trade, but it’s definitely a good one!
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 13 @ 11:14 AM ET
Our bottom six forwards still suck, nothings changed there, our top six forwards took a step back with no money to sign Toffoli, our goaltending is weaker but could level out if Demko can play lights out and the defence still needs improvement even with the addition of Schmidt and the lose of Tanev and Stetcher.

There’s roughly 2 million dollars left with Virtanen and Gaudette yet to sign, something’s gotta give still. I don’t think the Canucks are in a position to take a major step forward and be a top 10 team, in fact I think they’ll take a step back if things remain the same. Which is fine, as long as the focus on the draft and developing players.

- Pacificgem


Only question is losing Markstrom can the Holtby/Demko combo keep the numbers?
Other than that there is no indication of a step backward. We just got better by losing Stecher/Tanev and gaining Schmidt. And we won both PO rounds without TT lol. Our bottom 6 is slower yes but still very capable as the PO's showed. We will be around that 15-16 spot moving up a bit from 20-21 where we were. Bubble team? maybe. But there is no indication we will drop 4-5 spots in the standings. Schmidt is just the start of Benning's master plan.

#havefaithchubs
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 13 @ 11:15 AM ET

- Marwood

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
Only question is losing Markstrom can the Holtby/Demko combo keep the numbers?
Other than that there is no indication of a step backward. We just got better by losing Stecher/Tanev and gaining Schmidt. And we won both PO rounds without TT lol. Our bottom 6 is slower yes but still very capable as the PO's showed. We will be around that 15-16 spot moving up a bit from 20-21 where we were. Bubble team? maybe. But there is no indication we will drop 4-5 spots in the standings. Schmidt is just the start of Benning's master plan.

#havefaithchubs

- LordHumungous


Schmidt replaces Tanev and adds 1.5M. It was a good trade, I'm happy it wasn't a 2nd round pick.

The D still needs work though, once/if that's sorted there's less pressure on the goalies.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 13 @ 11:20 AM ET
Edler's contract is done after this year. No need to move him right now – he has a year left in the tank to shelter OJ/Rathbone from the tougher minutes.
- NewYorkNuck

Agree his minutes would be hard to replace...but the time is coming rapidly. Didn't think we'd be moving on from Tanev this soon but here we are. Just as we were fine without the Sedins we will be fine without Edler/Tanev.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
WTF.....sorry this is garbage, just because you haven’t won a Cup doesn’t mean you can’t make a good or bad trade. This is far from the best Canucks trade, but it’s definitely a good one!
- Pacificgem


Ya my thoughts exactly. A cup isn't indicative of having a franchise's best trade.

This trade reminds me a lot of the Erhoff trade. Fantastic steal, but not the franchise best. Naslund would be up there for me, but number one would probably be the trades made to land the Sedins.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 13 @ 11:22 AM ET
Schmidt replaces Tanev and adds 1.5M. It was a good trade, I'm happy it wasn't a 2nd round pick.

The D still needs work though, once/if that's sorted there's less pressure on the goalies.

- VanHockeyGuy

Agree and gaining Schmidt will also reduce the shots against. Which is something Marky never really got here. Schmidt adds 10-12 more points than Tanev and can play both ends consistently. It really is a steal by JB. But he had to do something lol. He aint done yet.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:23 AM ET
Agree his minutes would be hard to replace...but the time is coming rapidly. Didn't think we'd be moving on from Tanev this soon but here we are. Just as we were fine without the Sedins we will be fine without Edler/Tanev.
- LordHumungous


Definitely, just see that happening – like Tanev – when his contract runs out.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:24 AM ET
Schmidt replaces Tanev and adds 1.5M. It was a good trade, I'm happy it wasn't a 2nd round pick.

The D still needs work though, once/if that's sorted there's less pressure on the goalies.

- VanHockeyGuy

Juolevi as a third pairing guy is already imho better than Stecher so hopefully he can earn that spot in camp. Truthfully I don’t think they really have any other choice.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
Agree his minutes would be hard to replace...but the time is coming rapidly. Didn't think we'd be moving on from Tanev this soon but here we are. Just as we were fine without the Sedins we will be fine without Edler/Tanev.
- LordHumungous

Edler will extend one year after the upcoming one....book it.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 13 @ 11:25 AM ET
Yeah I expect that as well. No point in putting Hughes and Schmidt together. Need to spread that kind of mobility throughout your d-core. End of the game sure I could see Hughes and Schmidt together if the Canucks need to push for a goal.

Would love to see the Canucks somehow clear enough cap space to sign Hamonic, or he decides to come here on a 1 year discount for the chance to play with Hughes to increase his value for next year.

I could see the Following Combo's

Edler-Schmidt
Hughes-Hamonic
Rathbone/Joulevi - Myers

Goal would be to rotate Rathbone and Joulevi in to ease them in. If it's Rathbone I like the mobility and size on each of the pairings

- Mungo


If JB was able to move out two of LE/Sven/Sutter/Rous/Ferland/Beagle/Benn, and sign the remaining RFAs and add Hamonic, I would be highly impressed.

What you posted is a very capable NHL defense.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:27 AM ET
Juolevi as a third pairing guy is already imho better than Stecher so hopefully he can earn that spot in camp. Truthfully I don’t think they really have any other choice.
- Pacificgem


Ideally you don't want to throw unproven kids to the wolves like that. Hopefully they find a way to add another D to bridge that gap.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:28 AM ET
Ya my thoughts exactly. A cup isn't indicative of having a franchise's best trade.

This trade reminds me a lot of the Erhoff trade. Fantastic steal, but not the franchise best. Naslund would be up there for me, but number one would probably be the trades made to land the Sedins.

- NewYorkNuck

IMO - Linden for Bertuzzi, McCabe & Ruutu is the best trade in Canucks history as it had the biggest positive ramifications.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Oct 13 @ 11:29 AM ET
Ideally you don't want to throw unproven kids to the wolves like that. Hopefully they find a way to add another D to bridge that gap.
- VanHockeyGuy

He’s 22 years old and been playing pro hockey for the last three years, it’s time to poop or get off the pot for him.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:30 AM ET
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Hello Mr. Nostradamus


CanuckDon: "Vegas isn’t handing a divisional rival a top pairing dman"

- Fidel

As i said when it was posted: valuation of players way off here. Also Schmidt moving was on every sports network. Nostradomus
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:31 AM ET
He’s 22 years old and been playing pro hockey for the last three years, it’s time to poop or get off the pot for him.
- Pacificgem


Sure, in the AHL. I hope he cracks the lineup and stays healthy. The D still needs work.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Oct 13 @ 11:34 AM ET
If JB was able to move out two of LE/Sven/Sutter/Rous/Ferland/Beagle/Benn, and sign the remaining RFAs and add Hamonic, I would be highly impressed.

What you posted is a very capable NHL defense.

- NewYorkNuck

Ferland is done. I don’t really get how this isn’t just an obvious fact
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