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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Goodbye to Tanev and Stecher, no Barrie; the search is on for a defenseman
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Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:52 PM ET
Is this what Vantel looked like the other night on his drunken rant?
- K-man25


Is that why it's so nice and amicable in here today...
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
No surprises at all.
Lets go to hell with the kids.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
Benning will get the last laugh!
- Nucker101

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
Thanksgiving Shambles
- Sir Edward Longsha

We're good.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
Erik Gustafsson 1 year 3 mill....im sure Benning could of done that
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Oct 12 @ 4:54 PM ET
RD thinks owner tightened purse strings.
- VanHockeyGuy


I think that is obviously true and probably the case in almost all franchises. (It would be a cash budget, not the artificial cap limit set by the league & NHLPA).
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:54 PM ET
Erik Gustafsson 1 year 3 mill....im sure Benning could of done that
- phyllee


No thanks. Soft as butter and doesn’t like to play defense.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:54 PM ET
I think that is obviously true and probably the case in almost all franchises. (It would be a cash budget, not the artificial cap limit set by the league & NHLPA).
- SlightlyOffside


OEL makes 10.5 per in real dollars during 3 of the next 4 seasons.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:54 PM ET
Except for the 1st pair defenceman he brought in.
- neem55



Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:55 PM ET
Maybe not landing OEL made the point the team won't have the stud defenseman needed to push the current group over so why invest in Vets long term. Let them go bring in the prospects and hunt for a trade for a young RFA D or pick one up in expansion protection looks to be the direction.
- NuckUp

Yes! The throwing in the towel strategy.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:55 PM ET
Well you are coddled and protected by Makita so story checks out
- CanuckDon

lol

#truth
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 12 @ 4:55 PM ET
Really good young 2nd pairing dman
- Nucker101


He is a BC boy, he can't be any good.😉

I thought he was the Isles best defenseman during the asteriks cup playoffs.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:55 PM ET
OEL makes 10.5 per in real dollars during 3 of the next 4 seasons.
- Nucker101


Trade deadline passed. No deal.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
He is a BC boy, he can't be any good.😉

I thought he was the Isles best defenseman during the asteriks cup playoffs.

- Reubenkincade


He’s an actually good BC Boy
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
Erik Gustafsson 1 year 3 mill....im sure Benning could of done that
- phyllee


Oh poop. Lets keep the positive stuff on the air.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:57 PM ET
From Twitter

Jim Benning did such a spectacular job of stripping it down that Brandi’s Exotic Show Lounge is jealous. #Canucks
1:48 PM · Oct 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
Perception of TT signing will be a challenge for the Canucks so the pressure is on them to find ways to be a playoff team next season.

From a business standpoint, I understand not signing support pieces to contracts beyond two years. Fans won’t like it but who knows when games will have full crowds again.

Many don’t view Benning as having a plan and although no one would describe him as creative or as a smooth operator, he has been clear about the overall plan:

Draft high character players, insulate the young drafted players with vets, and add the drafted players to the NHL lineup when ready (even if it means at the expense of a vet). I.E. Benning trusts his drafting (with or without Brackett).

Petey and Hughes’ ascension has only added to the pressure (a good problem to have) so Benning will have to be creative over the short term (not a strong suit of his). Over the long-term, IMHO they are in a good position and will be ready to push forward next offseason and the season after.

Given moves so far, team is clearly focused on spending money on defence and is likely ready to show faith in some of the drafted players. Pod, Hogs, Lind, OJ, etc. will all get a chance to play (Pod will be perfect for Petey and Miller - puck retrieval machine, great forechecker, and a very good passer).

Marky - two year offer in Feb showed that Demko was always their goalie of the future. Marky is great but time to move on.

Tanev - four years was too long, tough but true.

Stecher - Green is not a fan so serious effort was not made to bring him back.

TT - four years was obviously not in the cards. PR issue and team needs to utilize the flexibility intelligently.

April next season:

Miller Petey Podz
Pearson Bo BB
Motte Gaudette Virt
Rous Sutter Mac

Hughes xxx
Edler xxx
OJ Myers

Demko
Holtby

I think the team really believes in Podz (will see if justified). Team also really believes in Demko. The team’s main focus should be acquiring one solid dman to pair with Edler - no reason Benn, etc. can’t look solid beside Hughes (not ideal but a good stop gap while young players develop further.

Many are freaking out but patience is still the best option. Will be interesting to see the starting lineup next season - no matter what the result, fans will continue to be divided and loyal to their tribes.

- CoolerHeads


Solid post, makes a lot of sense, I agree with most.

So... in the name of hate, could you refrain from posting these level headed posts. Thanks.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
Trade deadline passed. No deal.
- VanHockeyGuy

Why not
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
Why not
- Fidel



Shut you're head, that's why.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
20201012-144253
- NorthNuck



Awwwwwww
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
Here's the take that the young core is good enough with playoff experience to build around without needing stop gaps or overpriced vets to support it.

Not going for term in Marky, Tanev, Toffoli and Stecher is so they don't turn into the next set of anchors when Sutter, Beagle, LE and Roussel have gone.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
Shut you're head, that's why.
- VanHockeyGuy

Stay classy. Why not? OEL might be traded anytime during his contract
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
Shut you're head, that's why.
- VanHockeyGuy

Where the F is Vintsy FFS???

I need wine recommendations for THX-Giving Dinner!!

lol
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 5:05 PM ET


Awwwwwww

- LordHumungous


I Love some orange wine.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Oct 12 @ 5:07 PM ET
OEL makes 10.5 per in real dollars during 3 of the next 4 seasons.
- Nucker101


I read that as FA being willing to make an exception to bring in someone who would make a really big difference, rather than JB having free rein to spend whatever it takes.

Every NHL team is counting their cash carefully...including the Canucks. Remember their off-ice staff even took pay cuts during the interruption in play. I’m not saying that as a criticism of the team or organization, it’s just the reality for event-based entertainment businesses like NHL teams, even when they are owned by billionaires.
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