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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Goodbye to Tanev and Stecher, no Barrie; the search is on for a defenseman
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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
I agree with this. This is one where JB could have done better. But I'm sure there is a plan...


- LordHumungous



LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:04 PM ET
Wake up Benning!
- K-man25



Enjoy Markstrom's groin and Tanev's injuries...



Was an easy dump....
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:05 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

lol we have to believe right?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:05 PM ET
Is this what Vantel looked like the other night on his drunken rant?
- K-man25


He doesn't drink.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:05 PM ET


Enjoy Markstrom's groin and Tanev's injuries...



Was an easy dump....

- LordHumungous

It’s not like we resigned Smitty and went after Barrie! We can’t all be that smart!
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
I liked to have had TT back and he signed a reasonable contract which is raising temperatures here.

However, how many kept saying don't sign him long term or at all because he's slow and will drop off. Against VGK he did nothing to convince us he could be a difference maker.

So not giving TT term opens up the long term door to the two top prospects (Hogs & Podz) to take over in the top 6. We'll see where JV lands. He could still continue to grow or become trade bait in season to make room for Podz.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
RD thinks owner tightened purse strings.
- VanHockeyGuy


Makes sense.
Aqua probably mandated short-term, low cost contract offers and JB struck out.

I guess we get to see what OJ and Hoglander bring to the table this year.
Maybe Lind and Rathbone too.
Later Podz and Tree.


K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:06 PM ET
He doesn't drink.
- VanHockeyGuy

He was an angry little man! Perhaps he should start.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 4:07 PM ET
It’s not like we resigned Smitty and went after Barrie! We can’t all be that smart!
- K-man25


Barrie was a solid signing.

Not a fan of Smith, but at least it was 2 years, not 6.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Makes sense.
Aqua probably mandated short-term, low cost contract offers and JB struck out.

I guess we get to see what OJ and Hoglander bring to the table this year.
Maybe Lind and Rathbone too.
Later Podz and Tree.

- dbot


This tells me we're a bottom 10 team next season.
Fidel
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Twitter
Joined: 08.11.2006

Oct 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Toffoli and vatanen gone. What a heĺllllllllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CoolerHeads
Joined: 07.04.2015

Oct 12 @ 4:08 PM ET
Perception of TT signing will be a challenge for the Canucks so the pressure is on them to find ways to be a playoff team next season.

From a business standpoint, I understand not signing support pieces to contracts beyond two years. Fans won’t like it but who knows when games will have full crowds again.

Many don’t view Benning as having a plan and although no one would describe him as creative or as a smooth operator, he has been clear about the overall plan:

Draft high character players, insulate the young drafted players with vets, and add the drafted players to the NHL lineup when ready (even if it means at the expense of a vet). I.E. Benning trusts his drafting (with or without Brackett).

Petey and Hughes’ ascension has only added to the pressure (a good problem to have) so Benning will have to be creative over the short term (not a strong suit of his). Over the long-term, IMHO they are in a good position and will be ready to push forward next offseason and the season after.

Given moves so far, team is clearly focused on spending money on defence and is likely ready to show faith in some of the drafted players. Pod, Hogs, Lind, OJ, etc. will all get a chance to play (Pod will be perfect for Petey and Miller - puck retrieval machine, great forechecker, and a very good passer).

Marky - two year offer in Feb showed that Demko was always their goalie of the future. Marky is great but time to move on.

Tanev - four years was too long, tough but true.

Stecher - Green is not a fan so serious effort was not made to bring him back.

TT - four years was obviously not in the cards. PR issue and team needs to utilize the flexibility intelligently.

April next season:

Miller Petey Podz
Pearson Bo BB
Motte Gaudette Virt
Rous Sutter Mac

Hughes xxx
Edler xxx
OJ Myers

Demko
Holtby

I think the team really believes in Podz (will see if justified). Team also really believes in Demko. The team’s main focus should be acquiring one solid dman to pair with Edler - no reason Benn, etc. can’t look solid beside Hughes (not ideal but a good stop gap while young players develop further.

Many are freaking out but patience is still the best option. Will be interesting to see the starting lineup next season - no matter what the result, fans will continue to be divided and loyal to their tribes.

NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
Makes sense.
Aqua probably mandated short-term, low cost contract offers and JB struck out.

I guess we get to see what OJ and Hoglander bring to the table this year.
Maybe Lind and Rathbone too.
Later Podz and Tree.

- dbot


This is definitely the direction to have ELCs to leave money for core.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:10 PM ET
I'm a gentle person.
- Marwood

Well you are coddled and protected by Makita so story checks out
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:11 PM ET
RD thinks owner tightened purse strings.
- VanHockeyGuy

I mean I don’t like Aquilini but the smart play with so much uncertainty this year
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
It’s not like we resigned Smitty and went after Barrie! We can’t all be that smart!
- K-man25

Barrie was a great signing. Smith? Well at least we all know Edmonton will continue to suck
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:12 PM ET
I mean I don’t like Aquilini but the smart play with so much uncertainty this year
- CanuckDon


Fine, bottom 10 team next year.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
Makes sense.
Aqua probably mandated short-term, low cost contract offers and JB struck out.

I guess we get to see what OJ and Hoglander bring to the table this year.
Maybe Lind and Rathbone too.
Later Podz and Tree.

- dbot


I think we'll see a lot of young faces in the line up. Hopefully that doesn't stunt their growth.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:13 PM ET
This tells me we're a bottom 10 team next season.
- VanHockeyGuy

I still think we have a shot at playoffs (😍) core is just damn strong. Miller must be pissed
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:15 PM ET
Perception of TT signing will be a challenge for the Canucks so the pressure is on them to find ways to be a playoff team next season.

From a business standpoint, I understand not signing support pieces to contracts beyond two years. Fans won’t like it but who knows when games will have full crowds again.

Many don’t view Benning as having a plan and although no one would describe him as creative or as a smooth operator, he has been clear about the overall plan:

Draft high character players, insulate the young drafted players with vets, and add the drafted players to the NHL lineup when ready (even if it means at the expense of a vet). I.E. Benning trusts his drafting (with or without Brackett).

Petey and Hughes’ ascension has only added to the pressure (a good problem to have) so Benning will have to be creative over the short term (not a strong suit of his). Over the long-term, IMHO they are in a good position and will be ready to push forward next offseason and the season after.

Given moves so far, team is clearly focused on spending money on defence and is likely ready to show faith in some of the drafted players. Pod, Hogs, Lind, OJ, etc. will all get a chance to play (Pod will be perfect for Petey and Miller - puck retrieval machine, great forechecker, and a very good passer).

Marky - two year offer in Feb showed that Demko was always their goalie of the future. Marky is great but time to move on.

Tanev - four years was too long, tough but true.

Stecher - Green is not a fan so serious effort was not made to bring him back.

TT - four years was obviously not in the cards. PR issue and team needs to utilize the flexibility intelligently.

April next season:

Miller Petey Podz
Pearson Bo BB
Motte Gaudette Virt
Rous Sutter Mac

Hughes xxx
Edler xxx
OJ Myers

Demko
Holtby

I think the team really believes in Podz (will see if justified). Team also really believes in Demko. The team’s main focus should be acquiring one solid dman to pair with Edler - no reason Benn, etc. can’t look solid beside Hughes (not ideal but a good stop gap while young players develop further.

Many are freaking out but patience is still the best option. Will be interesting to see the starting lineup next season - no matter what the result, fans will continue to be divided and loyal to their tribes.

- CoolerHeads

No Hog? Think he makes the team before Podz. This year in fact
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:16 PM ET
RD thinks owner tightened purse strings.
- VanHockeyGuy


Still don’t buy it. He gave JB the green light to acquire a guy making 8M, 10.5M, 10.5M, 10.5M during the next 4 years. Even with giving up a Sutter or Roussel + Virtanen, that’s the exact opposite of penny pinching.

I think ownership flat out told JB that he has to ask them before signing anyone or trading for any anyone with term. And ownership is only approving big names like OEL.

I think this is a lack of trust between ownership and management.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 12 @ 4:16 PM ET
I still think we have a shot at playoffs (😍) core is just damn strong. Miller must be pissed
- CanuckDon


Let's see what kind of scrap's we sign.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 12 @ 4:17 PM ET
I still think we have a shot at playoffs (😍) core is just damn strong. Miller must be pissed
- CanuckDon


The whole core is probably pissed, any player who badly wants to win would be
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Oct 12 @ 4:17 PM ET
It’s not like we resigned Smitty and went after Barrie! We can’t all be that smart!
- K-man25

ouch lol

I guess when you are looking upward at the Oil/Nucks in the standings all will be clear?

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Oct 12 @ 4:19 PM ET
Good signing by Mtl though.
Apparently no NTC or NMC included for TT.
Their top 9 looks strong w a good mix of vets and ELCs.

Drouin-Suzuki-Anderson
Tatar-Danault-Gallagher
Toffoli-Kotkaniemi-Armia

our top line winger is Mtl's 3rd liner.
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