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668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 12 @ 8:52 PM ET
He'll be here
- Rinosaur

If he does come here it better be for 2mil cap max. So that means a three team trade.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 12 @ 8:54 PM ET
If he does come here it better be for 2mil cap max. So that means a three team trade.
- 668710


Can’t see it being more than that.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Oct 12 @ 8:54 PM ET
We live in a world where Nate schmidt is worth a 2022 3rd pick and Kapanen is worth a 1st and top prospect
MHurl
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.19.2010

Oct 12 @ 8:55 PM ET
He'll be here
- Rinosaur


Fleury and Ceci book it
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 12 @ 8:55 PM ET
We live in a world where Nate schmidt is worth a 2022 3rd pick and Kapanen is worth a 1st and top prospect
- YouMeAndDupuis9


I know.. swear to god I could be a better gm
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Oct 12 @ 8:57 PM ET
Fleury and Ceci book it
- MHurl


Won’t be room unless Vegas and the third team both retain 50%
MHurl
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.19.2010

Oct 12 @ 8:59 PM ET
Won’t be room unless Vegas and the third team both retain 50%
- Rinosaur


Hoping theres no room yeah but who knows with GMJR
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:01 PM ET
Fleury and Ceci book it
- MHurl

(frank) you right now lol take it back!
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM ET
I know.. swear to god I could be a better gm
- 10inchTerror


Considering Tampa is literally trying to give Tyler Johnson away, spending a 1st on Kapanen was an awful move
10inchTerror
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 12 @ 9:09 PM ET
Hoping theres no room yeah but who knows with GMJR
- MHurl


I can only see it if vgs buys him out and he signs for a mil. Would only cost them 2m per year so that’s 5m off the cap. 11m with Schmidt gone.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:12 PM ET
Considering Tampa is literally trying to give Tyler Johnson away, spending a 1st on Kapanen was an awful move
- drummer829

The first probably should have never gone for Kap but remember Kap is a 3.2 hit for 2 years not TJs contract at all. Teams are looking for bargain contracts and Ruth went for it. Steep, yea. Idk haha I'm over it now.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:19 PM ET
Schmidt for a 3rd rounder Hahaha holy F
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:22 PM ET
Jeez Don’s model hates Vesey. Currently has him at only a 67% chance of living up to his literal minimum contract.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM ET
Jeez Don’s model hates Vesey. Currently has him at only a 67% chance of living up to his literal minimum contract.
- Victoro311


Vesey is overrated because his name. He's pretty meh.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:34 PM ET
I can only see it if vgs buys him out and he signs for a mil. Would only cost them 2m per year so that’s 5m off the cap. 11m with Schmidt gone.
- 10inchTerror


Buyout window is over. I've already accepted Rutherford gonna find a way to get him here. If it's a mil......I guess that's ok, but they'll need a third team.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
Buyout window is over. I've already accepted Rutherford gonna find a way to get him here. If it's a mil......I guess that's ok, but they'll need a third team.
- madmike71


Fleury can be traded to a team with an arbitration eligible RFA and there's an extra buyout window applied after an arbitration assigned contract

example

Vegas trades Fleury to Detroit with a 1st (and probably more) as a sweetener

Bertuzzi on Detroit gets a contract awarded by the arbitrator

Detroit then gets another buyout window and buys out Fleury for 8.3 Million (real dollars)

Fleury returns to Pittsburgh

OR

Vegas trades MAF to Detroit with a 1st and retains 2 Million

Detroit Trades MAF for Pittsburgh with 50% retained (2.5 Dead money)

Pens get Fleury for 2.5 Million cap hit
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 12 @ 9:58 PM ET
Fleury can be traded to a team with an arbitration eligible RFA and there's an extra buyout window applied after an arbitration assigned contract

example

Vegas trades Fleury to Detroit with a 1st (and probably more) as a sweetener

Bertuzzi on Detroit gets a contract awarded by the arbitrator

Detroit then gets another buyout window and buys out Fleury for 8.3 Million (real dollars)

Fleury returns to Pittsburgh

OR

Vegas trades MAF to Detroit with a 1st and retains 2 Million

Detroit Trades MAF for Pittsburgh with 50% retained (2.5 Dead money)

Pens get Fleury for 2.5 Million cap hit

- TheGame316


Ahh.... OK thanks!
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 12 @ 9:59 PM ET
According to Dreger yes. For a 3rd.
- Victoro311

This off-season is nuts.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 12 @ 10:15 PM ET
Vegas GM just said they aren't trading Fleury, for what it's worth.
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Oct 12 @ 10:16 PM ET
Nathan Legare scored his 2nd goal of the year this weekend. He has 5 points in his first 4 games.

https://t.co/F9LacMivJT

I haven't given Legare much chance of making the team, but he's got 3 months of development to change my mind

Just realized, talk about a rookie wall. If anyone from juniors makes the NHL, they'll play half their season then jump into the NHL for whatever a full season is.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Oct 12 @ 10:17 PM ET
Vegas GM just said they aren't trading Fleury, for what it's worth.
- Tojo.

I mean honestly I don’t see how they could possibly trade him.
TheGame316
Joined: 11.18.2008

Oct 12 @ 10:32 PM ET
I mean honestly I don’t see how they could possibly trade him.
- Victoro311


A trade with retention doesn't really work for them unless they want to burn picks as sweeteners and find a taker for the entire contract

Even if they retained 50%, they'd still need to spend a couple of million to find a competent backup, so assuming 2 Million, where is the real savings?

They are still 2 players short of a roster and 975k over the cap. They still have to do something
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Oct 12 @ 10:53 PM ET
Nathan Legare scored his 2nd goal of the year this weekend. He has 5 points in his first 4 games.

https://t.co/F9LacMivJT

I haven't given Legare much chance of making the team, but he's got 3 months of development to change my mind

Just realized, talk about a rookie wall. If anyone from juniors makes the NHL, they'll play half their season then jump into the NHL for whatever a full season is.

- Tojo.


Legare offers something they no longer have. Sets up shop in traffic and he's tough to move. Sick shot too. He probably won't make the team based on his skating, but I hope they give him a fair shot.
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 12 @ 10:55 PM ET
Vegas GM just said they aren't trading Fleury, for what it's worth.
- Tojo.

Good
668710
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: "Give him a chance" -Barnaby36, PA
Joined: 06.25.2011

Oct 12 @ 10:58 PM ET
Nathan Legare scored his 2nd goal of the year this weekend. He has 5 points in his first 4 games.

https://t.co/F9LacMivJT

I haven't given Legare much chance of making the team, but he's got 3 months of development to change my mind

Just realized, talk about a rookie wall. If anyone from juniors makes the NHL, they'll play half their season then jump into the NHL for whatever a full season is.

- Tojo.

Thanks for the updates as always. Idk, with how bad our bottom 6 looks they may have to have both Legare and Poulin make the team. I think I'd rather have them play than these scrubs we grabbed.
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