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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:01 PM ET
Don’t get this one.

They can’t defend to save their lives and manage to get worse defensively with this move.

However he’ll run their PP and put up a crap ton of points

- Pegullaville


Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Tyson Barrie turned down more money elsewhere to join the #Oilers, including a $6 million offer.
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:02 PM ET
Like 89 mentioned ..... Vegas will have to shed some salary. Get on the phone and fleece them. Not too many other teams have cap space to do that.

Also for everyone crying about yesterday.

Hall - I think someone mentioned that
Toffoli
Haula
Koivu
Fast

And a bunch of other good players are still available.

Did you really want to sign one of the scrub goalies that signed?

What player did we miss out on??

The only really good deal was turris for 1.5 mill. The rest of the players were pretty much trash.

Craig Smith would’ve been nice though. But no one with sources on twitter or here even mentioned his name. So I can’t say we took the L on that one

- Sabretooth9


I mentioned smith as a target 2 hours ago, an hour before he signed with Boston. I thought he’d get 4+ a year
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
I'm standing by the names I posted before, I don't run from anything or make excuses if I'm wrong. I trust my info when I get it.
- SABRES 89


I’m not questioning your info

But u do realize that even if the Sabres are going after a certain player, that player actually has to want to come here... right?

Idk about you,
but that just doesn’t seem likely right now
We’re a mess
And I’d bet there’s at least 20+ teams that are a more desirable destination at this point
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
Just make it a good prospect who would be worth more than the 2nd or 3rd rounder to get Seattle to take him?

Idk it’s all doable I think but his contract is a huge hurdle

- Stripes77


I'd demand a 1st round pick from Tampa plus more, or if they're retaining at least 25%, just the 1st round pick.

All I'd offer in return is the good old future considerations, which means nothing.

Why let them off the hook?
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Oct 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
Go Sabres? 🤷🏻‍♂️
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Oct 10 @ 1:03 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
Tyson Barrie turned down more money elsewhere to join the #Oilers, including a $6 million offer.

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Now go offer Montour to that team that is obviously clueless
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
Fair enough.

Maybe they overpaid girgs? Buffatax is real.
Attracting free agents to wny is real.
He did outscore/outplay his contract LAST year
coach that sees him everyday, likes him

Kahun wasnt worth arbitration.
If they sign him for 2 million, sure.

Everyone will pretend they weren't pegging him as a 40 point close to 4 million $ guy.
Low 2 millions - good move by the Sabres.
Although I really trust the Sabres opinion

- Boss34


It’s possible Adams (Kim) didn’t know what the market rate was. It was set during the 1st day

Remember how last year Hayes skinner and a few others were given some very lucrative contacts.

Then the free agent market came out and fair market value was less than they were paid
Over50
Location: Eyes without a face, NY
Joined: 02.23.2018

Oct 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
If only,
if only we had that
"beady eyed douche bag" now eh?
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
True
Except mine has the possibility of accomplishing something
The Sabres aren’t reading these posts,
and wouldn’t alter their decision making even if they were

This whiny crybaby bullsh!t accomplishes nothing

- jdfitz77


To be fair: message boards are really only for 3 things:1) female doging 2) celebrating teams success 3) honing in on an a teams future success. 2 hasn’t happened, 3 is getting stale. I love the Sabres, idk why. I had the luxury of choosing any team under the sun (not from or anywhere close to Buffalo, have 0 ties) but I chose them anyways. I’ll ride through the thick of it. Just my .02. If people want to female dog about it, whatever there’s the door. If people are too optimistic, whatever there’s the door. I will never have another team I cheer for over Buffalo, much like most of you. But it is getting hard to feel even remotely optimistic about the train wreck we’ve watched the last 9.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Oct 10 @ 1:05 PM ET
Good post

I heard hall again this morning.
The $ tied up in left wings (sdsabre) brought up makes it less likely. The ralph connection is real though.


Maybe hall at 6.75 per? Covid pricing
The 3.5-3.75 from kahun (whatever the arbitration would have been) and the 3 million from Larsson moving on?

- Boss34



I read an article on contract expectations for Top UFA ... had Hall at $8.5sh
$6.75 seems low since he signed for $6m in 2013.

If they landed him, then they will almost certainly need to trade Olofsson ... Hall and Skinner at $17.5 for 2 lefties is high...adding $4.0sh would be crazy.
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 10 @ 1:06 PM ET
I mentioned smith as a target 2 hours ago, an hour before he signed with Boston. I thought he’d get 4+ a year
- turbo044


Oh my bad about Craig Smith. I didn’t back read.
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Oct 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
Didnt you hear that halls mothers uncles 2nd roommate in college that lives in buffalo is good friends with hall. Clearly we gottem!

As for being mad at the Sabres. Not yet. If all the list of players I mentioned are signed and we don’t sign one of them. Then we can all be mad

But let’s wait and see

- Sabretooth9


I agree patience is a virtue and FA is not the only way to change/improve the team.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:07 PM ET
It’s possible Adams (Kim) didn’t know what the market rate was. It was set during the 1st day

Remember how last year Hayes skinner and a few others were given some very lucrative contacts.

Then the free agent market came out and fair market value was less than they were paid

- Sabretooth9


You do understand this is the lowest free agency ever ...

Its a Pandemic right now lol
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
You do understand this is the lowest free agency ever ...

Its a Pandemic right now lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS


Not in South Dakota. We do what we want when we want. But we’re just hillabillies
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
We all have opinions...mine is just better Boss...jk'g

Staal. Absolutely LOVED it and still do...gave me hope.
Kahun, Girgs, are bad, and Reider is ok as 13th
Quinn was questionable in my book...like Rossi a whole lot better is all...maybe Quinn turns out great..I'll wait.

He went from A+++ on Staal
To
C with Staal et all.

- IonSabres


I actually value your opinions. Dont always agree, but you bring great points to the discussion.

I really cant make a draft evaluation as I did not follow to closely.

I like Quinn's work ethic and story about playing multiple sports. Sky's the limit now that he can focus on hockey.

I know too many parents who "manage" their kids "careers ". Hockey all day.
Being a level II coach, usa hockey suggests other sports and not overdoing hockey training year round.


turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:08 PM ET
I read an article on contract expectations for Top UFA ... had Hall at $8.5sh
$6.75 seems low since he signed for $6m in 2013.

If they landed him, then they will almost certainly need to trade Olofsson ... Hall and Skinner at $17.5 for 2 lefties is high...adding $4.0sh would be crazy.

- IonSabres


Hall makes absolutely not send to Hall or to the Sabres. LW is the last of the Sabres needs and there’s no way in the world Hall signs for 6.75m per
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Oct 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
It’s possible Adams (Kim) didn’t know what the market rate was. It was set during the 1st day

Remember how last year Hayes skinner and a few others were given some very lucrative contacts.

Then the free agent market came out and fair market value was less than they were paid

- Sabretooth9


Contacts are gonna be all over the board right now
They always are
Girgs got a .5mil raise for a 3yr deal
That’s actually extremely reasonable
I get that some ppl don’t like him
But he was a good defensive player, on a good defensive line, AND he actually scored some goals last year
If he keeps up his play from last season,
it’s AT LEAST a “decent” deal
If he reverts to his play from 3yrs ago,
THEN it will be disappointing

BUT EITHER WAY, it’s not a huge deal
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Oct 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
How far Mitts has fallen in the eyes of many around the league
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:11 PM ET
Hall makes absolutely not send to Hall or to the Sabres. LW is the last of the Sabres needs and there’s no way in the world Hall signs for 6.75m per
- turbo044


Thats not true hall would make perfect sense if he's trying get a pay day jack can help him with that and he could help us for 1 year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
I’m not questioning your info

But u do realize that even if the Sabres are going after a certain player, that player actually has to want to come here... right?

Idk about you,
but that just doesn’t seem likely right now
We’re a mess
And I’d bet there’s at least 20+ teams that are a more desirable destination at this point

- jdfitz77



Good fitz

These guys can dream about ufas all they want.
They have to want to come to Buffalo.

You know the team without a playoff appearance in 9 years
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Oct 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
How far Mitts has fallen in the eyes of many around the league
- Buff36


Unmotivated and overweight teams love that
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
I actually value your opinions. Dont always agree, but you bring great points to the discussion.

I really cant make a draft evaluation as I did not follow to closely.

I like Quinn's work ethic and story about playing multiple sports. Sky's the limit now that he can focus on hockey.

I know too many parents who "manage" their kids "careers ". Hockey all day.
Being a level II coach, usa hockey suggests other sports and not overdoing hockey training year round.

- Boss34


I’m a college football nut, and this is actually one of the things that th best of the best actually look for: fitness fanatic, and their sport isn’t their life. Having interests outside of what they do that still correlate indirectly (other sports) to success at a current sport is something Dabo, Saban, Meyer, and all the other big boys look for
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Oct 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
You do understand this is the lowest free agency ever ...

Its a Pandemic right now lol

- GERBE!!!75PTS


I get it. My point was that Adams / Kim didn’t understand where the free agent market was going to go with 4th liners.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Oct 10 @ 1:14 PM ET
It’s possible Adams (Kim) didn’t know what the market rate was. It was set during the 1st day

Remember how last year Hayes skinner and a few others were given some very lucrative contacts.

Then the free agent market came out and fair market value was less than they were paid

- Sabretooth9



Yep.

The skinner deal is really suspect looking back on it.

Especially considering he scored 28 goals in this first 40 and now what 26 more in the last 100?

The skinner deal had to approve by the pagilos
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Oct 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Good fitz

These guys can dream about ufas all they want.
They have to want to come to Buffalo.

You know the team without a playoff appearance in 9 years

- Boss34


Which is why it’s even more imperative to not let a guy like Kahun walk.. I don’t know which side of the fence your on, but letting him walk is silly because of the above. You own his rights for at least another year. Make him play here. Maybe it likes it, but didn’t think he would. Idk, can’t not look at the full picture
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