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powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Oct 9 @ 11:08 AM ET
Not everything is a conspiracy for (frank) sake
- GPHawksfan



As if "deals" didn't happen with the VGK draft? Open your eyes to the real world.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Oct 9 @ 11:10 AM ET
There is a step up from the AHL to the NHL. NHL level experience is required for young players to become good NHL players. It must be done judiciously on each individual basis and the team situation isn't always conducive to "let the kids play" - but in the current Hawks situation it is my believe that it's the best thing to do - even with the almost certainty that the Hawks will suck for a year or two.
- EbonyRaptor


They worked in several last year in Dach, Boqvist, Highmore, Nylander and Kubes was technically a rookie.

A few others saw time, Gilbert, Carlson, and Beaudin and Hagel each got a game.

I’d rather see them continue to add youth to the lineup and the time for adding bandaids in the form of cheap vets is over.

Play the kids. I like the idea of keeping Murphy and Saad around but there's no need for more vet presence right now with 2, 7, 19 and 88 still on the team.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Oct 9 @ 11:13 AM ET
From J. Zucker to TJ Compher, the USA program has been great at developing all around players who never forgot what the best play is. The USA kid all have high hockey IQ sound decision making instincts and good all-around toolbox and skill.


- wiz1901


Wanna point something out to you about the NTDP U-18's this yr as you watch their games and evaluate, Wiz. They have a new coach this coming yr, Dan Muse.

He was the coach when the Steel won the cup in 16/17. Next yr he was on the Predators bench as an assistant and was fired when the Preds changed the whole coaching staff going into this yr. Helluva leap, from the USHL straight to the NHL. Even Cooper had to stop in the AHL before getting the TB gig ...........

Here's the point. I watched every Steel game that yr, many live, and what was different from other USHL cup teams than with Muse's team was the structure. As you know it's almost beyond rare for a jrs team to have complete buy in to iron clad structure shift after shift, game after game, month after month.

The Steel looked like the Hawks under Q in the cup yrs where it seemed they had 6 skaters on the ice where there were no options for the opponent and always an open guy when they had the puck cuz the structure was strangling and constant. That's how a Muse team looks and plays.

Now you have a team that has the best 25 kids in a country of 330 million coached by a guy who pounds structure into his teams. Of course the NTDP always has elite coaching but this coaches calling card is structure and communication. Elite talent with structure. Can't wait to see this version of the U-18's.

Just a heads up when you watch the U-18's this yr. Gonna be real interesting for this fan.


67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 9 @ 11:20 AM ET
Couple points;

1. Stasny isn't a 2C and longer

2. WTH would anyone let Vegas off the hook for that. Chevy has lost his mind.

- vabeachbear



How does this deal happen without some retention on the part of Vegas? In this climate GM's have to be smarter than that.
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Oct 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
I know they are getting paid a boatload of money, but I wonder what is going through the minds on 19 and 88. I wonder if they want to stick around for a rebuild. Time will tell, but do think the Toews contract would be very hard to move, but I do think somebody would definitely want Kane. Just speculation and wondering how the poster boys are feeling right now.
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Oct 9 @ 11:29 AM ET

Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Even though CHI did not qualify goaltender Malcolm Subban, expect the Hawks to sign him today to a two-year deal with an AAV just south of $900K. CHI expects Subban, Collin Delia and Kevin Lankinen to compete for the starter and back-up job in 20-21.

Honestly, I don't have an issue with this unless they are going full scale rebuild. I said two years ago that they should trade Kane, Toews and Keith. Rebuilding on the fly equals mediocrity at best. Of course, I get that marketing is a big part of the Hawks DNA so trading Kane, Toews and Keith is unlikely. Otherwise, there is zero plan moving forward.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Oct 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Even though CHI did not qualify goaltender Malcolm Subban, expect the Hawks to sign him today to a two-year deal with an AAV just south of $900K. CHI expects Subban, Collin Delia and Kevin Lankinen to compete for the starter and back-up job in 20-21.

Honestly, I don't have an issue with this unless they are going full scale rebuild. I said two years ago that they should trade Kane, Toews and Keith. Rebuilding on the fly equals mediocrity at best. Of course, I get that marketing is a big part of the Hawks DNA so trading Kane, Toews and Keith is unlikely. Otherwise, there is zero plan moving forward.

- golfbard


Subban has mediocre numbers I believe so correct me if I'm wrong. That said, he's never been given the reigns to be a number 1 playing behind Rask, Fleury and Crow and if we sign him, I'd like to see what he can do.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Kubilik 3 years 3,7 or 3.9
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Oct 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
Bob McKenzie
@TSNBobMcKenzie
Even though CHI did not qualify goaltender Malcolm Subban, expect the Hawks to sign him today to a two-year deal with an AAV just south of $900K. CHI expects Subban, Collin Delia and Kevin Lankinen to compete for the starter and back-up job in 20-21.

Honestly, I don't have an issue with this unless they are going full scale rebuild. I said two years ago that they should trade Kane, Toews and Keith. Rebuilding on the fly equals mediocrity at best. Of course, I get that marketing is a big part of the Hawks DNA so trading Kane, Toews and Keith is unlikely. Otherwise, there is zero plan moving forward.

- golfbard
you still need veterans to guide and show the young players how play the right way and what needs to be done off the ice. I could see keith possibly being traded at the tdl if hawks are clearly out of the playoff picture. Towes and kane not so much unless they ask to be moved.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Oct 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
iF THE HAWKS ARE SERIOUS ABOUT A REBUILD. LETS LOOK INTO MOVING PATRICK KANE, THE ASSET WE WILL GET THE MOST RETURN FOR . GET A GOOD PROSPECT AND NUMBER ONE PICK AND MORE . IT WILL OPEN SOME CAP SPACE, SO MAYBE TAKE ON SOMEBODY ELSE DEAD WEIGHT FOR PICKS. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TEAMS OUT THERE THAT COULD USE SOME CAP RELIEF
- Ging72

$10.5 isn't going anywhere without $10.5 coming back what rock have you been under?
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Oct 9 @ 11:39 AM ET
CapFriendly is showing the Hawks have $11,163,687 in cap space. Theo is giving $2.5mil to Strome, $3.7mil to Kubalik. Let's say Suter is almost guaranteed a NHL roster spot at $925,000. Carlsson (or Kalynuk, or Mitchell) gets the order defender spot at $792,000 to $925,000. The back up goalie (Subban/Lankinen) will be about $850,000. They can put Smith on LTIR and that saves $3.25mil. (They may need to do some roster manipulation on the first day of the season to get Smith on LTIR). And don't forget Maatta's $750,000 cap hit retained.

Stan has to believe DeHaan, Seabs, and Shaw will be healthy enough to start the season.

That leaves $6.6mil+/- in cap space and a roster of:

13 forwards - Kane, Toews, ADB, Saad, Carp, Kampf, Dach, Nylander, Highmore, Strome, Kubalik, Suter, Shaw.

7 dmen - Keith, Seabs, DeHaan, Murphy, Boqvist, Carlsson, and Seeler or K4 (if signed)

2 goalies out of these 3 - Delia, Lankinen, Subban

LTIR - Smith

So Stan take a nap today and start scouting juniors and the EU for your lottery pick next year. (Although I would not mind if you picked up Kahun at a fair price.)
golfbard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NY
Joined: 06.22.2007

Oct 9 @ 11:42 AM ET
Subban has mediocre numbers I believe so correct me if I'm wrong. That said, he's never been given the reigns to be a number 1 playing behind Rask, Fleury and Crow and if we sign him, I'd like to see what he can do.
- Popsghostly


I agree but isn't this his third team already? Maybe he has work ethic issues?
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:00 PM ET
Subban has mediocre numbers I believe so correct me if I'm wrong. That said, he's never been given the reigns to be a number 1 playing behind Rask, Fleury and Crow and if we sign him, I'd like to see what he can do.
- Popsghostly

Subban has the pedigree to be a starter as you said never had that role in the show . Maybe some confidence shown in him would help but not happening under this coach if recent history tell us anything .
Subban is a great teammate is my understanding and I think had some decent numbers when playing regular minutes due to injuries . If we are going full rebuild he is as good a candidate for the starting job as anyone ,
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Oct 9 @ 12:02 PM ET
I agree but isn't this his third team already? Maybe he has work ethic issues?
- golfbard


Still think Lakinnen will be the starter and will beat the other two out.

Got to get a nick name for him, can't spell his name, OK, going forward he will be Lakes.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:03 PM ET
I agree but isn't this his third team already? Maybe he has work ethic issues?
- golfbard

I don't really know .But have heard he is a great kid and very good student of the game and great teammate. Hangs around after practice taking shots .
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 9 @ 12:03 PM ET
Kubalik signed 2 years @ $3.7

Subban 2 years @ $850K.


Very good signings.
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Oct 9 @ 12:04 PM ET
NHL Network saying Kubilik 2 at 3.7
vabeachbear
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ft Courage - out in the middle of Indian Country, NC
Joined: 10.17.2011

Oct 9 @ 12:05 PM ET
Kubalik signed 2 years @ $3.7

Subban 2 years @ $850K.


Very good signings.

- DarthKane


Stan, learning???
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 9 @ 12:06 PM ET


Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC


Tyler Johnson (TB) on waivers

DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Oct 9 @ 12:06 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman@FriedgeHNIC


Tyler Johnson (TB) on waivers

- ikeane



Just saw that, interesting.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:07 PM ET
Kubalik signed 2 years @ $3.7

Subban 2 years @ $850K.


Very good signings.

- DarthKane

Yes very good signing Good Work Stan !!
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 9 @ 12:08 PM ET
Just saw that, interesting.
- DarthKane

Free great asset. Top six player. Who claims him? Ottawa with all their change this offseason?
ikeane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Joined: 11.04.2005

Oct 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
Kubalik signed 2 years @ $3.7

Subban 2 years @ $850K.


Very good signings.

- DarthKane


Is Stan hoping Strome is given an offer sheet? Asking for a friend haha
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Oct 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
Kubalik signed 2 years @ $3.7

Subban 2 years @ $850K.


Very good signings.

- DarthKane


Dats what I'm talkin 'bout. Way to go Stan.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Oct 9 @ 12:11 PM ET
Yes very good signing Good Work Stan !!
- oldduffman


Stan picked the perfect dollar amount because if someone offer sheeted Kubalik for more, Stan would of taken the compensation (second round draft choice). Same thing with Strome's offer.
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