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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 2:50 PM ET
It’s almost like they didn’t watch the last 10 years of Flyers hockey. We could’ve had Crosby and it wouldn’t have won us any cups without a legit top D man.
- hereticpride


We don't need Hart either. Small sample size.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 2:53 PM ET
Building a team and making decisions as a GM is not done in a vacuum where you look at trades and player independent of the makeup of your team. The Flyers can't afford to trade Provorov unless it involves an equal defenseman in return. If you make deals like that all you have is a better offensive top line but a weaker team.
- MJL

If it’s provy for eichel you make that trade. And your team is better not weaker
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Oct 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
If it’s provy for eichel you make that trade. And your team is better not weaker
- SMS4016



Unless your a complete (frank)ing homer and show your actual hockey knowledge.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
Unless your a complete (frank)ing homer and show your actual hockey knowledge.
- landros 2

I’m sure mjl will say you don’t trade provy for eichel. Watch
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
It’s almost like they didn’t watch the last 10 years of Flyers hockey. We could’ve had Crosby and it wouldn’t have won us any cups without a legit top D man.
- hereticpride



Your last sentence is rather unfortunately phrased on multiple levels.

How many cups did we win with the legit DMan?

And you do remember that Crosby won a cup with a bunch of 2nd pairing DMen just a few years ago?




wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 2:59 PM ET
Unless your a complete (frank)ing homer and show your actual hockey knowledge.
- landros 2



I would do the trade but you would not have a better team if you didnt have a plan to replace Povy and have a plan to deal with the CAP. The D right now without Provy would look more like an AHL D squad
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Oct 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
Unless your a complete (frank)ing homer and show your actual hockey knowledge.
- landros 2


My god yes!

I think the general premise for those against is this: taking Provy off will create a bigger hole than the hole that is the absence of Eichel now. That's true.

But you don't pass up a chance to get Eichel on your team because he does not fit. You fit the team around Eichel. He is that good.


juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Oct 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
If it’s provy for eichel you make that trade. And your team is better not weaker
- SMS4016


So why hasnt it worked for Edmonton who arguably have the 2 best players in the league?
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 7 @ 3:05 PM ET
So why hasnt it worked for Edmonton who arguably have the 2 best players in the league?
- juiced


Hasn’t worked....yet.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Oct 7 @ 3:06 PM ET
So why hasnt it worked for Edmonton who arguably have the 2 best players in the league?
- juiced


Well why hasn't Eichel propelled them into the playoffs.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 7 @ 3:11 PM ET
I would do the trade but you would not have a better team if you didnt have a plan to replace Povy and have a plan to deal with the CAP. The D right now without Provy would look more like an AHL D squad
- wcorvette



You always have to have a plan. The Flyers have a really nice stable of young D as it is but in today’s world there are teams that will have to rid them selves of $, not because of the NHL mandated salary cap but because of the owners self imposed budget. The Flyers don’t have that problem.
I mean I keep hearing how good Sanheim and Myers are...ghost had 65 points two years ago and is now healthy again....add in Hägg that’s hardly an AHL skill level. We are talking a star player vs. Generational talent.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Well why hasn't Eichel propelled them into the playoffs.
- J35Bacher



The rest of the team blows. Or at least a good portion. It sure as hell isnt on him
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Flyers trade!!!
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 7 @ 3:12 PM ET
Trade!
arichardson22
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Oct 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
Zayed Wisdom. Seems like a smart pick.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
Your last sentence is rather unfortunately phrased on multiple levels.

How many cups did we win with the legit DMan?

And you do remember that Crosby won a cup with a bunch of 2nd pairing DMen just a few years ago?

- PT21

So the generational center was more valuable than the elite dman? #confused
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Oct 7 @ 3:13 PM ET
Zayd Wisdom....👍
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Oct 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
people are using "generational" too loosely in my opinion. eichel is a very good player, but generational, i don't know about all that.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Oct 7 @ 3:17 PM ET
You always have to have a plan. The Flyers have a really nice stable of young D as it is but in today’s world there are teams that will have to rid them selves of $, not because of the NHL mandated salary cap but because of the owners self imposed budget. The Flyers don’t have that problem.
I mean I keep hearing how good Sanheim and Myers are...ghost had 65 points two years ago and is now healthy again....add in Hägg that’s hardly an AHL skill level. We are talking a star player vs. Generational talent.

- landros 2



you dont drop Nisk then Provy and just move forward. You can count on Ghost but the team is not better. Jack brings a higher cap hit, replacing a provy would cost how much cap for another D? 7 mil at the min? How easy is it to replace a #1 D? One of the few players that really hold check on contract is D. So you are left with moving JVR or GHOST? You moving Jake? For what?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Oct 7 @ 3:19 PM ET
Zayd Wisdom....👍
- landros 2

That’s a badass name
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Oct 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
"Flyers need to draft a guy who can score goals!!!"

Flyers draft a guy who can score goals.

"Why didn't we draft a guy who is fast!?!?"

- jmatchett383


Classic bi-polar Flyers fans!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
Zayed Wisdom. Seems like a smart pick.
- arichardson22

hehe
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
So why hasnt it worked for Edmonton who arguably have the 2 best players in the league?
- juiced

Becuase you still need to build
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 7 @ 3:20 PM ET
Your last sentence is rather unfortunately phrased on multiple levels.

How many cups did we win with the legit DMan?

And you do remember that Crosby won a cup with a bunch of 2nd pairing DMen just a few years ago?

- PT21


Your question of how many cups did we win with the legit Dman lacks context. You know full well that this is a team that is still developing. The context is about how to build a team so we can get to the level of competing for Cups. To do that, we need top flight defense and goaltending.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Oct 7 @ 3:21 PM ET
Well why hasn't Eichel propelled them into the playoffs.
- J35Bacher

Becuase you still need to build
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