landros 2
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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how does he compare to joe pavelski - 2Real
He’s 5’11...which makes him 6 inches taller. |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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He’s 5’11...which makes him 6 inches taller. - landros 2
does he work as hard? |
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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Centre of universe Joined: 02.07.2007
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does he work as hard? - 2Real
The “smart” answer is yes. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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The “smart” answer is yes. - landros 2
sounds good |
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So why hasnt it worked for Edmonton who arguably have the 2 best players in the league? - juiced
Or Toronto. And if it was that easy. Wouldn’t they have traded one of their great offensive players for a number 1 d man. |
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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I would do the trade but you would not have a better team if you didnt have a plan to replace Povy and have a plan to deal with the CAP. The D right now without Provy would look more like an AHL D squad - wcorvette
Think big man.
Since we are just shooting the breeze, here is a blueprint. Don't critique individual trades and get hung up on details. I am not sold on them -some variations would work as well.
Look at the finished product.
In below, + is salary gained, - is salary deficit from trade, all differences are approximate.
Provorov+Frost+Brink+2nd for Eichel. (-1.9)
JVR + 1 m retained to a team that needs scoring (Columbus/Preds) for their 2nd. (+6m)
Couturier for Laine and Pionk (-5.5m)
Ghost + 2nd for a 6th (+4.5) to anyone
Voracek with 1.5 million retained for 2nd/3rd to Bruins (he would complement Krecjki nicely) (+6.75)
Pietro: 10 million for 7 years. (-10)
This breaks almost even
Giroux-Eichel-Laine
Lindblom-Hayes-TK
Laughton-Patrick-Bee
Raffle-Nate-NAK
Pietro-Myers
Sanheim-Pionk
Hagg-Braun
Hart
Year after that, let Laughton walk to fit in increased salary of Laine.
This, my friends, is a true contending team.
EDIT: please replace bolded above of -1.9 with -3.25. That leaves a deficit of about -1.5, which can easily be worked out. |
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Think big man.
Since we are just shooting the breeze, here is a blueprint. Don't critique individual trades and get hung up on details. I am not sold on them -some variations would work as well.
Look at the finished product.
In below, + is salary gained, - is salary deficit from trade, all differences are approximate.
Provorov+Frost+Brink+2nd for Eichel. (-1.9)
JVR + 1 m retained to a team that needs scoring (Columbus/Preds) for their 2nd. (+6m)
Couturier for Laine and Pionk (-5.5m)
Ghost + 2nd for a 6th (+4.5) to anyone
Voracek with 1.5 million retained for 2nd/3rd to Bruins (he would complement Krecjki nicely) (+6.75)
Pietro: 10 million for 7 years. (-10)
This breaks almost even
Giroux-Eichel-Laine
Lindblom-Hayes-TK
Laughton-Patrick-Bee
Raffle-Nate-NAK
Pietro-Myers
Sanheim-Pionk
Hagg-Braun
Hart
Year after that, let Laughton walk to fit in increased salary of Laine.
This, my friends, is a true contending team. - PT21
it's like you're an educated person or something
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where you live and how many games you go to doesn't make you more credible. - Ftown19125
Well for clowns to say eichel isn’t generational becuase idk maybe they only see him once and awhile was just stating I see him a lot and he’s generational. I have season tickets to sabres. I split with a few people. Go to about 12-15 games a year. Obviously the flyer games but other games I draft my tickets by seeing star players. Eichel is someone you watch whole time he’s on the ice with or without the puck. Makes me much more credible than smucks on here that obviously only watch flyers and can’t tell a generational player and wouldn’t trade provy for one. Shoo shoo now |
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Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Mays Landing, NJ Joined: 06.21.2009
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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it's like you're an educated person who can't do elementary arithmetic or something - 2Real
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Ftown19125
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Location: Philadelphia, PA Joined: 09.17.2013
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Well for clowns to say eichel isn’t generational becuase idk maybe they only see him once and awhile was just stating I see him a lot and he’s generational. I have season tickets to sabres. I split with a few people. Go to about 12-15 games a year. Obviously the flyer games but other games I draft my tickets by seeing star players. Eichel is someone you watch whole time he’s on the ice with or without the puck. Makes me much more credible than smucks on here that obviously only watch flyers and can’t tell a generational player and wouldn’t trade provy for one. Shoo shoo now - SMS4016
just curious, who else playing currently is a generational talent? |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Think big man.
Since we are just shooting the breeze, here is a blueprint. Don't critique individual trades and get hung up on details. I am not sold on them -some variations would work as well.
Look at the finished product.
In below, + is salary gained, - is salary deficit from trade, all differences are approximate.
Provorov+Frost+Brink+2nd for Eichel. (-1.9)
JVR + 1 m retained to a team that needs scoring (Columbus/Preds) for their 2nd. (+6m)
Couturier for Laine and Pionk (-5.5m)
Ghost + 2nd for a 6th (+4.5) to anyone
Voracek with 1.5 million retained for 2nd/3rd to Bruins (he would complement Krecjki nicely) (+6.75)
Pietro: 10 million for 7 years. (-10)
This breaks almost even
Giroux-Eichel-Laine
Lindblom-Hayes-TK
Laughton-Patrick-Bee
Raffle-Nate-NAK
Pietro-Myers
Sanheim-Pionk
Hagg-Braun
Hart
Year after that, let Laughton walk to fit in increased salary of Laine.
This, my friends, is a true contending team.
EDIT: please replace bolded above of -1.9 with -3.25. That leaves a deficit of about -1.5, which can easily be worked out. - PT21
How can you not get hung up on the details? There are way too many moving pieces for it to be remotely possible. If one thing does not work out the blueprint falls apart completely.
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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Or Toronto. And if it was that easy. Wouldn’t they have traded one of their great offensive players for a number 1 d man. - Peter Richards
The only guy they have in the category of Eichel is Matthews.
Lots of negativity about the Laffs here. Give that team a little time.
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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How can you not get hung up on the details? There are way too many moving pieces for it to be remotely possible. If one thing does not work out the blueprint falls apart completely. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
at least he's trying to improve this team |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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The only guy they have in the category of Eichel is Matthews.
Lots of negativity about the Laffs here. Give that team a little time. - PT21
I disagree. Matthews, Tavares and Marner are just as good as Eichel. Tavaras has hit the 80 point mark in 2 of his last 3 seasons Had 60 points in 63 games this season.
Marner had 67 points in 59 games which was a 93 point pace and had 94 points the season before. |
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Think big man.
Since we are just shooting the breeze, here is a blueprint. Don't critique individual trades and get hung up on details. I am not sold on them -some variations would work as well.
Look at the finished product.
In below, + is salary gained, - is salary deficit from trade, all differences are approximate.
Provorov+Frost+Brink+2nd for Eichel. (-1.9)
JVR + 1 m retained to a team that needs scoring (Columbus/Preds) for their 2nd. (+6m)
Couturier for Laine and Pionk (-5.5m)
Ghost + 2nd for a 6th (+4.5) to anyone
Voracek with 1.5 million retained for 2nd/3rd to Bruins (he would complement Krecjki nicely) (+6.75)
Pietro: 10 million for 7 years. (-10)
This breaks almost even
Giroux-Eichel-Laine
Lindblom-Hayes-TK
Laughton-Patrick-Bee
Raffle-Nate-NAK
Pietro-Myers
Sanheim-Pionk
Hagg-Braun
Hart
Year after that, let Laughton walk to fit in increased salary of Laine.
This, my friends, is a true contending team.
EDIT: please replace bolded above of -1.9 with -3.25. That leaves a deficit of about -1.5, which can easily be worked out. - PT21
Have you tried the new controllers yet?
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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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Have you tried the new controllers yet? - MJL
that's almost as clever as a trump tweet |
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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How can you not get hung up on the details? There are way too many moving pieces for it to be remotely possible. If one thing does not work out the blueprint falls apart completely. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
No, it just gets perhaps delayed, somethings altered.
I am not saying you pull it off in 2 days or something. Might take a year. Even more. It would be worth it to have Eichel and Laine together.
If Laine plays with Eichel he puts up Rantanen style numbers imo.
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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The only guy they have in the category of Eichel is Matthews.
- PT21
This is simply not correct. Both Marner and Taveras are as good as Eichel is.
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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This is simply not correct. Both Marner and Taveras are as good as Eichel is. - MJL
No they are not |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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at least he's trying to improve this team - 2Real
Making hypothetical trades and signings like a NHL video game is not trying to improve the team. List of problems with the Blueprint are:
1) Does Pietrangelo even want to come to PHI
2) Is another team willing to out bid us.
3) Is Buffalo willing to move Eichel. GM has already stated he isnt.
4) Would Buffalo find that deal acceptable
5) Would any team take Voracek with a flat cap for 3 years
6) Would any team take JVR with a flat cap for 3 years
7) Does WPG find that deal acceptable
8) Does a team want Ghost with a flat cap.
9) Are we going to have enough cap to re-sign guys like Hart and Patrick who will be due for raises. Hart's will obv be a considerable one.
If one of these 9 points is a no. You are left with a mess. |
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PT21
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: 木糠布丁, PA Joined: 03.04.2008
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I disagree. Matthews, Tavares and Marner are just as good as Eichel. Tavaras has hit the 80 point mark in 2 of his last 3 seasons Had 60 points in 63 games this season.
Marner had 67 points in 59 games which was a 93 point pace and had 94 points the season before. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
Well remember Marner is a winger who is playing with either Matthews or Tavares.
Tavares is no doubt very good, but he looks like he is losing a half-step. He is also 30+. Eichel is 24.
Look at who Eichel plays with. Also look at the D behind him. He is essentially a p/g player now while playing on a very poor team, which also speaks to his mental fortitude. How many guys do you remember that happening with consistently? |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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This is simply not correct. Both Marner and Taveras are as good as Eichel is. - MJL
If you swapped him for either of those players the Leafs are instantly better |
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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: love is love Joined: 06.29.2006
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The rest of the team blows. Or at least a good portion. It sure as hell isnt on him - landros 2
Well, they should be building the team around him. It's easy. |
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just curious, who else playing currently is a generational talent? - Ftown19125
As in young generational or once was as in Crosby? |
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