Luc Robitaille couldn't skate worth a lick.
- MJL

I know, right? 20 years in the NHL, 668 goals, 1394 points and HOF selection. Good thing the Flyers didn't draft that crappy skater!!

My god yes!

I think the general premise for those against is this: taking Provy off will create a bigger hole than the hole that is the absence of Eichel now. That's true.

But you don't pass up a chance to get Eichel on your team because he does not fit. You fit the team around Eichel. He is that good.
- PT21

If trading for Eichel creates large holes on your team then yes, you absolutely pass it up. Defense is that critical. We have a #1 center. We have a #2 center. We have young players and prospects who have a chance to be solid NHL centers. We don't have anyone who can replace Provorov or account for the dominoes of how other players would have to be elevated.

Zayd Wisdom....👍
- landros 2

Pro comparison is Pat Verbeek. The kids scouting report is very positive. Sounds like a strong pick this far into the draft.

The rest of the team blows. Or at least a good portion. It sure as hell isnt on him
- landros 2

Hence trade talk. He’ll be demanding trade soon

Pro comparison is Pat Verbeek. The kids scouting report is very positive. Sounds like a strong pick this far into the draft.
- hereticpride

I just read that...great story about perseverance.

people are using "generational" too loosely in my opinion. eichel is a very good player, but generational, i don't know about all that.
- Ftown19125

As a Buffalo resident and frequent game goer I can assure he’s generational

Hence trade talk. He’ll be demanding trade soon
- SMS4016

I don’t think they actually would trade him. Pretty lucky to get a guy like that. To me you build around him or like right now, keep trying.

Emil Andrae. Am I jerk by feeling like it’s no good to draft a 5’8” defenseman?

If trading for Eichel creates large holes on your team then yes, you absolutely pass it up. Defense is that critical. We have a #1 center. We have a #2 center. We have young players and prospects who have a chance to be solid NHL centers. We don't have anyone who can replace Provorov or account for the dominoes of how other players would have to be elevated.
- MJL

Yep. Said nobody ever

It’s almost like they didn’t watch the last 10 years of Flyers hockey. We could’ve had Crosby and it wouldn’t have won us any cups without a legit top D man.
- hereticpride

Exactly. Funny thing is, if you look at all the recent Top D guys that were traded. There is one huge difference between them and us. They had other guys who can play on the top pair.

Seth Jones was only a top 4 player when he was dealt. Nashville had Subban and Josi as their top pair.

Hamilton was dealt from Boston because they couldnt reach a deal with him. Boston already had a stacked D with a 5 year younger Chara, Krug, Seidenberg, and Miller. Calgary dealt him as well which is rumoured to be for "Personality" reasons. Even then Calgary had Dmen that they could count on for their top pair in Giordano and Brodie.

The common theme here is they had guys to fill that role. We dont have such a player and they dont just grow on trees. In order to make a good trade to improve your team you need to trade from a strength to cover a weakness. Trading Provorov fills one hole while creating another.

There was a debate here about getting a 40 goal score. That is nice to have but at the end of the day depth is better. A 40 goal scorer costs a lot more. Toronto is a perfect example. Matthews had 47 goals last season, probably could have hit 50. He makes 11 mill. Next closest guys were Nylander at 31, Tavaras at 26, Hymen at 21. They has 2 between 10-20. Everyone else was below 10. So combined their top 4 combined for 125 goals. They got 89 goals from the other 17 forwards that played last season. So 214 goals total

Now look at the Flyers. Our Top 4(G, Konecny, Coots and Hayes) combined for 90 goals. That is less however we got 93 goals from the rest of our Forwards. We got 183. So it was a 31 goal difference. But since we dont have to pay a premium for a guy like Matthews or JT we are also able to fill out our roster better which accounted for 31 less goals against than Toronto.

At the end of the day we know some guys did not do as well as they should have and struggled and we lost Lindblom when he was diagnosed with Cancer. But even then we still evened out overall and we were the guys who made it to round two and didnt get bumped in the Qualifier. If we turn some of those young guys into 25-30 goal scorers we easily come out ahead.

The additional benefit is the team doesnt rely on one guy. If your 40 goals scorer slumps in the playoffs and no one else is able to pick up the slack, you are eliminated. The thing with depth is if one guy goes cold. You got many others who will chip in.

As a Buffalo resident and frequent game goer I can assure he’s generational
- SMS4016

He really is. The NHL is lucky. Some of the most recent drafts have produced some off the charts talented players

As a Buffalo resident and frequent game goer I can assure he’s generational
- SMS4016

where you live and how many games you go to doesn't make you more credible.

If trading for Eichel creates large holes on your team then yes, you absolutely pass it up. Defense is that critical. We have a #1 center. We have a #2 center. We have young players and prospects who have a chance to be solid NHL centers. We don't have anyone who can replace Provorov or account for the dominoes of how other players would have to be elevated.
- MJL

So trade you’re supposed #1 center to fill provy. Or 2center or package. Generational centers if available for just provy is a deal every time

no lie, Zayde Wisdom was the ONE guy i was hoping we could get outside of the 1/2nd round....dude is a tough SOB. Fan favorite bottom 6 hard worker type.

VERY stoked!

where you live and how many games you go to doesn't make you more credible.
- Ftown19125

He could live in the Buffalo arena and he wouldn't have any credibility.

Believe he was traded when he was still a forward ?
- ClaudeFather

nope he was a dman

no lie, Zayde Wisdom was the ONE guy i was hoping we could get outside of the 1/2nd round....dude is a tough SOB. Fan favorite bottom 6 hard worker type.

VERY stoked!
- Wingdestroyer

He really is. The NHL is lucky. Some of the most recent drafts have produced some off the charts talented players
- landros 2

i am not at all disagreeing that he's a very good player, but he's not even a point per game player and you're saying he's generational. there have to be at least 10 other generational talents playing in the nhl right now then.

So trade you’re supposed #1 center to fill provy. Or 2center or package. Generational centers if available for just provy is a deal every time
- SMS4016

So Coots or Hayes? What is the cap hit coming back? Coots is on a sweetheart deal. Jack is better than Coots but Coots has some intangibles that any team would miss. The D coming back would probably have a higher cap hit, so you added cap with Jack and the Coots trade for a D. Again I make the trade but it is really complex to fill the holes where your team will be better

Zayed Wisdom. Seems like a smart pick.
- arichardson22

reluctant golf clap

Emil Andrae. Am I jerk by feeling like it’s no good to draft a 5’8” defenseman?
- SuperSchennBros

Well he's 5'9 180, built well and is pretty physical. Not to mention he led his league in points for defensemen and is incredibly skilled. Imagine if he becomes a Kimmo

Emil Andrae. Am I jerk by feeling like it’s no good to draft a 5’8” defenseman?
- SuperSchennBros

Andrae the Giant!

where you live and how many games you go to doesn't make you more credible.
- Ftown19125

Doesn’t make him less credible either !

no lie, Zayde Wisdom was the ONE guy i was hoping we could get outside of the 1/2nd round....dude is a tough SOB. Fan favorite bottom 6 hard worker type.

VERY stoked!
- Wingdestroyer

how does he compare to joe pavelski

Doesn’t make him less credible either !
- landros 2

him being him does that.