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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 9:18 PM ET
I think years past overpayment was a requirement because of everything associated with Canucks. Travel , Canadian , bad team , everything. This year players find this as a desirable landing spot. I am confident I will like this years edition of the Canucks
- VANTEL

All true. We are becoming a destination point on many fronts once again.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 4 @ 9:21 PM ET
It was a choice of playing experienced centers over playoff rookies. Doesn't mean that remains going forward. The better skilled players learn and get deployed. This why it was so important to make the play-offs so the younger guys learn to excel the next time.
- NuckUp


You can paint it any way you want but it still was not Beagle and Sutter stopping Jake who is not a first year player from playing . Motte beat Jake out of a spot he did not have playoff experience.

Jake will probably be moved because Canucks probably feel that they are not getting enough contribution for the amount they invested.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 4 @ 9:22 PM ET
OEL/Dvorak for OJ/JV/Gaudette/LE/2nd
- Nighthawk


Why not throw Beartchi and Ferland in as well since Arizona wants to give away two of their best players for so many of the Canucks problem contracts and under achieving prospects.


pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Oct 4 @ 9:26 PM ET
He probably has, doesn’t make sense to not give the Yotes a deadline that ends really soon since JB has to worry about his own owning UFA/RFA’s. Hopefully JB realizes that Boston is likely lowballing so he has a lot of leverage on the Yotes.
- Nucker101


Boston may have even told JB they are low balling otherwise, based on JB history a deal would have already been made..if the deal isn’t announced tomorrow at the presser I don’t think it gets done.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 4 @ 9:27 PM ET
Boston may have even told JB they are low balling otherwise, based on JB history a deal would have already been made..if the deal isn’t announced tomorrow at the presser I don’t think it gets done.
- pker2theend

Donald Twain
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 02.14.2019

Oct 4 @ 9:41 PM ET
I am not sure how you know so much seeing I never see you around but it doesn't really matter I guess.

Alt accounts are for children. If Vestal is an alt account of someone who is banned then they are clearly violating the rules of Hockey Buzz where it clearly states creating an alt account and posting is against the rules if you are banned.

Boeser could be a name that is moved

- VANTEL

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Oct 4 @ 9:44 PM ET
Giving up a first round pick to dump a bad contract.


- bloatedmosquito

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 9:53 PM ET
Why not throw Beartchi and Ferland in as well since Arizona wants to give away two of their best players for so many of the Canucks problem contracts and under achieving prospects.



- boonerbuck

Study their cap problem & they are also a cash poor team to find my reasoning.

12.7m cap out 12m cap in for Arizona
-real money it’s 4m total for LE over 2yrs
2 roster players out & 4 in.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes
bloatedhefty
Location: Fat Like a Goalie
Joined: 04.19.2017

Oct 4 @ 10:20 PM ET

- Donald Twain


I agree. Let’s drown our sorrows over a double cheeseburger.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:21 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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Hearing that Tampa Bay has talked to Tyler Johnson’s camp about working together on a possible move. Johnson has a full no-trade clause. Let’s see where this goes.


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I have seen Paquettes name out there too. I bet they are looking to keep their RFAs
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 10:28 PM ET
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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1h
Hearing that Tampa Bay has talked to Tyler Johnson’s camp about working together on a possible move. Johnson has a full no-trade clause. Let’s see where this goes.


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I have seen Paquettes name out there too. I bet they are looking to keep their RFAs

- VANTEL

Cirelli Sergachev & Cernak will cost a ton. It’ll take a few players moved out. TB has a lot of work ahead to do. If ever there was a time for an OS to happen this is it.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:31 PM ET
Cirelli Sergachev & Cernak will cost a ton. It’ll take a few players moved out. TB has a lot of work ahead to do. If ever there was a time for an OS to happen this is it.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/lightning

- Nighthawk


Kilorn is another name too. I would be more interested in their D when they hit free agency Bogosian Shattenkirk and Schenn
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 10:36 PM ET
Kilorn is another name too. I would be more interested in their D when they hit free agency Bogosian Shattenkirk and Schenn
- VANTEL

Johnson Paquette Palat Killorn are all old news as rumoured for quite awhile. Nobody speaks of Stevie Y handing out NTC’s like candy.

JB wanted Miller rather than any of those. Ppl only see what we paid not who he wanted.

All those D are expendable. No interest for me.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Oct 4 @ 10:39 PM ET
Johnson Paquette Palat Killorn are all old news as rumoured for quite awhile. Nobody speaks of Stevie Y handing out NTC’s like candy.

JB wanted Miller rather than any of those. Ppl only see what we paid not who he wanted.

All those D are expendable. No interest for me.

- Nighthawk


Would you rather a 1 mil Bogosian Schen or Stecher?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 10:40 PM ET
Would you rather a 1 mil Bogosian Schen or Stecher?
- VANTEL

None of them tbh. 3rd pair D are not a priority. Rather promote from within. TB is as a ripe as it gets for an OS in this flat cap era before an e-draft.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 4 @ 10:44 PM ET
None of them tbh. 3rd pair D are not a priority. Rather promote from within. TB is as a ripe as it gets for an OS in this flat cap era before an e-draft.
- Nighthawk

Year after year you preach the offer sheet. What do you think the odds are that any offer sheet happens? Secondly, what do you think the odds are Benning offers one?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 10:54 PM ET
Year after year you preach the offer sheet. What do you think the odds are that any offer sheet happens? Secondly, what do you think the odds are Benning offers one?
- CanuckDon


How about let us hear you play some armchair GM. Try it for once. You game?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 4 @ 10:59 PM ET
How about let us hear you play some armchair GM. Try it for once. You game?
- Nighthawk

Don’t expect much. Less than a 1% chance Benning offers an offer sheet. Given the cap issues, best we can’t hope is the roster doesn’t take a step back
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:13 PM ET
I guess repeating myself is warranted then.

If teams wait out TB & make them sweat it out til free agency comes this follows in order. Squeeze them til it hurts.

1st any team OS is to Cernak up to 4/4.3m & force TB to match or walk away & take the 2nd.. Many teams should do just that. This commits TB to cap space with Cirelli & Sergachev still to come. (Pulock & Toews are other good D targets for an OS on NYI.)

If TB matches that which I assume they probably would then they are even more wide open to a big OS for Cirelli. A bonafide 2C like him is in high demand & could fetch 7/6.5m no problem costing a 1st/3rd. Worth it easily. OS for 7.5m it’s a 1st/2nd/3rd & imo still worth it. If TB matches they cannot resign Sergachev. At least 2 players have to waive a NTC to get cap space to sign him.

Summary: why would any team do TB any favours when they can be bent over backwards over a barrel?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:14 PM ET
Don’t expect much. Less than a 1% chance Benning offers an offer sheet. Given the cap issues, best we can’t hope is the roster doesn’t take a step back
- CanuckDon

I don’t expect JB will do an OS. I do say TB is as ripe as it gets that a predator will threaten them subtly or not so subtly. If JB were to then Cernak is an ideal target to replace Tanev.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:17 PM ET
If an OS were to happen & that is a rarity I do agree it will be Cirelli imo.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Oct 4 @ 11:18 PM ET
New world order
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Glutton for punishment by bad teams, BC
Joined: 02.20.2019

Oct 4 @ 11:26 PM ET
You can paint it any way you want but it still was not Beagle and Sutter stopping Jake who is not a first year player from playing . Motte beat Jake out of a spot he did not have playoff experience.

Jake will probably be moved because Canucks probably feel that they are not getting enough contribution for the amount they invested.

- VANTEL


Jake was pacing for 20g season which is good value, slow learner by if he can be Torres like, it's a win at this point. 1.5 x 2
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:26 PM ET
Bruins are prime for an OS for Cirelli.
1) Krejci is a UFA after next year
2) stick it to a very good division rival
3) a late 1st/2nd/3rd is cheap for them
4) they can handle the cap hit
5) they need youth
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 4 @ 11:33 PM ET
Jake was pacing for 20g season which is good value, slow learner by if he can be Torres like, it's a win at this point. 1.5 x 2
- New world order

Min QO for JV is 1.25m
Gives us 1st right of refusal on an OS.
We could get probably a 2nd if we walked from an OS.
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