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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Looking at a Markstrom contract through the Lehner lens; the latest on OEL
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Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 5 @ 6:32 PM ET
yeah, exactly this. as much as players talk about the intangibles when signing a deal (city, team etc.), their agents will remind them in stark terms what they're giving up.
- RealityChecker




I just hope Marky and his agent don't extend this too long and end up caving, but they do it so late that Benning misses out on deals that would have improved the team.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 7:06 PM ET
I just hope Marky and his agent don't extend this too long and end up caving, but they do it so late that Benning misses out on deals that would have improved the team.
- Mungo

based on what benning's been saying (take it with a grain of salt i guess), i think the team has multiple alternate scenarios. i don't see them dragging things out or allowing a player/team to do that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:09 PM ET
Rick Dhaliwal just mentioned on 1040 that the Canucks are considering including the likes of Podz and Hoglander now. Was originally hoping to get OEL, but I hope it falls through now if that's the cost
- Mungo


Rick D is a fool. He's been the biggest idiot in the idiot business of Canuck rumors the last couple of years.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:11 PM ET
Dahliwal
I did not say Podkolzin was in a deal, if the Coyotes are asking for VAN top prospects, it always comes down to Podkolzin and Hglander. They would not be doing their job if they did not ask for those 2.



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Translation : I don't really know what has been offered.

- VANTEL


He talking in circles.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:13 PM ET
I don't understand it, he does not look like NHL caliber to me.
- NorthNuck


I agree. Career AHLer...
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:17 PM ET
Wish we didn't have Benn, I'd love to get Dillon for like 2.5M per if he really wants to play for his hometown
- Nucker101


They would have been better resigning Schenn instead of Benn(hind sight). He was good as a #6 and proved it wasnt smoke and mirrors come playoff time this season. Canucks could have used some of that.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:19 PM ET
Shah says LE is not in the Canucks offer for OEL


That basically just confirms it's probably Sutter, no?

- Nucker101


Satire Shah said the TT deal was all but done and being officially announced a while ago. Two weeks have more or less passed.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:21 PM ET
Dubnyk traded to Sharks . 50% retained
- VANTEL


Making space for Demko. Dumba coming our way.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 5 @ 7:26 PM ET
Anyone else expecting to see expanded rosters next season, due to AHL uncertainty.
If this is the case, I could see Canucks carrying 3 goalies and 9 defensemen.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
When CBJ buys out Wennberg, he might be worth a shot as 3rd line centre.

Can't remember who was telling me a year or 2 ago, that Went erg was a #1 centre and will be for a long time. Lol
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Oct 5 @ 7:34 PM ET
Rick D is a fool. He's been the biggest idiot in the idiot business of Canuck rumors the last couple of years.

- boonerbuck

love to know what the idiot business is all about but in all seriousness, the problem with van media is that while they may have a legit source or break something the odd time - the demand for content WAY outweighs whatever legit info they have. Therefore, they make poop up to stay relevant.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 7:40 PM ET
Anyone else expecting to see expanded rosters next season, due to AHL uncertainty.
If this is the case, I could see Canucks carrying 3 goalies and 9 defensemen.

- Reubenkincade

I see an expanded roster as well. Fewer leagues playing and a condensed schedule will likely mean teams carrying extra players. 30 player roster? 35?
Obviously not all would travel (if there is going to be travel) to away games.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 5 @ 7:40 PM ET
love to know what the idiot business is all about but in all seriousness, the problem with van media is that while they may have a legit source or break something the odd time - the demand for content WAY outweighs whatever legit info they have. Therefore, they make poop up to stay relevant.
- anavar


For sure. It would be boring here without it.
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Oct 5 @ 7:43 PM ET
For sure. It would be boring here without it.

- boonerbuck

facts. It gets people all riled up! We are trading our top two prospects, hoglander and VPod.....
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:01 PM ET
I see an expanded roster as well. Fewer leagues playing and a condensed schedule will likely mean teams carrying extra players. 30 player roster? 35?
Obviously not all would travel (if there is going to be travel) to away games.

- RealityChecker


30-35 sounds about right.
They would have to figure out a revised cap structure, to allow this many players on a roster, but it should be workable based on who plays in what games etc.
Might help some teams from losing some of their younger players having to go through waivers. I don't think some of the bottom-feeders like Sens, Devils,Wings and Leafs will like that to much though.
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:06 PM ET
30-35 sounds about right.
They would have to figure out a revised cap structure, to allow this many players on a roster, but it should be workable based on who plays in what games etc.
Might help some teams from losing some of their younger players having to go through waivers. I don't think some of the bottom-feeders like Sens, Devils,Wings and Leafs will like that to much though.

- Reubenkincade


Interesting idea and that makes sense if they don’t have their farm teams able to play. Maybe something like...

“Active roster” <— what they are constrained by today and count against the cap
“Non-playing roster” <— an additional 5-10 players that practice with the team but have some rules about how they can be “activated” for games



Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
Interesting idea and that makes sense if they don’t have their farm teams able to play. Maybe something like...

“Active roster” <— what they are constrained by today and count against the cap
“Non-playing roster” <— an additional 5-10 players that practice with the team but have some rules about how they can be “activated” for games

- SlightlyOffside


I am sure that because of what RC mentioned, ie, condensed schedule, players will be bouncing in and out of the lineup, quite regularly.(being activated)

Could make for an interesting season of constant change, within each teams lineup. It should also allow for some prospects like Lind, Brisebois, Rathbone, Rafferty and Hoglander to get some playing time, heck even Bailey should get some playing time.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:13 PM ET
Interesting idea and that makes sense if they don’t have their farm teams able to play. Maybe something like...

“Active roster” <— what they are constrained by today and count against the cap
“Non-playing roster” <— an additional 5-10 players that practice with the team but have some rules about how they can be “activated” for games

- SlightlyOffside


Like an NFL practice squad sort of thing? It’s gonna be interesting to see which teams prioritize loaning young AHL players to get in game action in Europe to develop and which teams will prefer just having everyone practice against NHL’ers to develop
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:20 PM ET
I am sure that because of what RC mentioned, ie, condensed schedule, players will be bouncing in and out of the lineup, quite regularly.(being activated)

Could make for an interesting season of constant change, within each teams lineup. It should also allow for some prospects like Lind, Brisebois, Rathbone, Rafferty and Hoglander to get some playing time, heck even Bailey should get some playing time.

- Reubenkincade

I think everything is on the table when the owners/players try to figure out how to play the season.
And it could be a mix of things. 30 player active roster and 6 "non-active" like SOS mentioned.
It's going to be interesting. I know the sport is entirely different but look at all the injuries in the NFL. (I understand that it's mostly due to not having an active offseason and no preseason but still...)
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
The really annoying thing about Benning/Aquaman is that they seem to be really reluctant with retaining salary in deals. You think as a high revenue team they would want to take advantage of one of their competitive advantages, but they don't
- Mungo

Revenues & salary cap are not the same thing.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:25 PM ET
I think everything is on the table when the owners/players try to figure out how to play the season.
And it could be a mix of things. 30 player active roster and 6 "non-active" like SOS mentioned.
It's going to be interesting. I know the sport is entirely different but look at all the injuries in the NFL. (I understand that it's mostly due to not having an active offseason and no preseason but still...)

- RealityChecker


Potential injuries are definitely going to be a concern, especially for some players in the 30s. Playing back to back will be non-starters for some, including goalies, particularly early in the season, when everyone will be trying to get into the rhythm of a very different schedule.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:29 PM ET
Friedman now saying OEL is frustrated by this dragging out and might tell the Yotes he’s staying lol

Yotes are also apparently waiting on Bruins to finish talks with Krug, if they can’t sign Krug then the Bruins won’t send back any cap dumps to the Yotes
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 5 @ 8:29 PM ET
I think everything is on the table when the owners/players try to figure out how to play the season.
And it could be a mix of things. 30 player active roster and 6 "non-active" like SOS mentioned.
It's going to be interesting. I know the sport is entirely different but look at all the injuries in the NFL. (I understand that it's mostly due to not having an active offseason and no preseason but still...)

- RealityChecker


Read an article that said that specific notion isn't really the reason for the injuries. Most of the high-end players that are getting injured don't play preseason anyway. They might take a few snaps, but preseason is more for evaluating the guys on the fringe.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 5 @ 8:29 PM ET
Friedman now saying OEL is frustrated by this dragging out and might tell the Yotes he’s staying lol

Yotes are also apparently waiting on Bruins to finish talks with Krug, if they can’t sign Krug then the Bruins won’t send back any cap dumps to the Yotes

- Nucker101


So Canucks are out of the running?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 5 @ 8:30 PM ET
So Canucks are out of the running?
- NewYorkNuck

Possibly, I’m cool with it. I was only into it if they took Myers or at least LE lol and that was never realistic.

Nothing wrong with just letting the Sutter expire or moving him out at the TDL
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