Ryan Wilson
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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I think Murray will be traded. To whom, I'm not sure. If Minnesota is looking to move on from Dubnyk then they are in the market for a goalie, either signing off the FA pile as a stop gap or trading for a young guy like Murray.
I just don't expect much in trade for goalies this off season. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Oh, you can change your post. Elliott just signed in Philly for a year. |
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Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Altoona Joined: 06.30.2015
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Jarry 3X3.5m AAV. I like it. |
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HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: Gwinn, MI Joined: 01.26.2020
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Teams looking at Lundqvist are looking for a stopgap
Teams looking at Murray are looking at a (potential) long term goalie
Not comparables AT ALL |
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Jarry 3X3.5m AAV. I like it. - Brownsoldier
And that's why you go with Jarry over MM@ 5-6 Million
4.7 Million combined in Jarry/DeSmith.... I like it |
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Brownsoldier
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Altoona Joined: 06.30.2015
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Lol and Ryan Wilson is already complaining about the contract on Twitter. “Seems high when compared to Gibson and hellebuyck”. It’s for 3 years and that takes care of goaltending for the malkin crosby era. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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How could you complain about that contract for Jarry? Seems perfect.
On a side note, I dont know if Henrik really makes a difference but there is a chance JR overplayed his hand with Murray and gets nothing. |
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Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 07.05.2019
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Teams looking at Lundqvist are looking for a stopgap
Teams looking at Murray are looking at a (potential) long term goalie
Not comparables AT ALL - TheGame316
I agree with this. Also, I wouldn't look at numbers from 2 years ago for a goalie who turns 39 soon. |
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Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 07.05.2019
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How could you complain about that contract for Jarry? Seems perfect.
On a side note, I dont know if Henrik really makes a difference but there is a chance JR overplayed his hand with Murray and gets nothing. - MacPatty
This is what I'm afraid of. I think a 1st is ridiculous. If someone offers a 2nd, take it and don't look back. |
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xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hamilton, ON Joined: 06.25.2010
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Im pretty sure teams in need of a G would rather trade for Murray than sign an old Lundy who is way past his prime.
Secondly Murray had one bad season... he even preformed much better in the playoffs. I see no reason to be worried. |
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The thing about Jarry, is EVEN when MM was killing it in Wilkes Barrie and was still seen as a prospect and EVEN when he was winning back to back cups
Jarry was ALWAYS more highly regarded as a prospect over MM
Remember there was a time the Habs had chosen to play Halak over Price and there were rumours of Price getting traded
It was actually controversial when they chose to go with Price in 2010/2011 and traded Halak
Price had the pedigree and that matters in goalie development |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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How could you complain about that contract for Jarry? Seems perfect.
On a side note, I dont know if Henrik really makes a difference but there is a chance JR overplayed his hand with Murray and gets nothing. - MacPatty
I don't think the offers for goalies are anywhere near what us fans think they are this year. I agree with the poster that if it's a 2nd rounder, you take it and run.
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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Lol and Ryan Wilson is already complaining about the contract on Twitter. “Seems high when compared to Gibson and hellebuyck”. It’s for 3 years and that takes care of goaltending for the malkin crosby era. - Brownsoldier
I think that matches Murray's last contract which was all RFA years, so fair deal. I think anyone expecting cheaper wasn't taking into account Jarry was only 2 years from UFA and they got one of those years at a bridge deal price. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Im pretty sure teams in need of a G would rather trade for Murray than sign an old Lundy who is way past his prime.
Secondly Murray had one bad season... he even preformed much better in the playoffs. I see no reason to be worried. - xShoot4WarAmpsx
That’s all dependent on what Lundqvist and his agent want/are asking for. If Lundqvist is cup Chasing and is cool with short term cheap contracts to give him the best shot at a Cup, it would be foolish for a team to actively trade for a goalie they need to give $6 mil and term to instead of signing Lundqvist for free. |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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The thing about Jarry, is EVEN when MM was killing it in Wilkes Barrie and was still seen as a prospect and EVEN when he was winning back to back cups
Jarry was ALWAYS more highly regarded as a prospect over MM
Remember there was a time the Habs had chosen to play Halak over Price and there were rumours of Price getting traded
It was actually controversial when they chose to go with Price in 2010/2011 and traded Halak
Price had the pedigree and that matters in goalie development - TheGame316
Eh, I wouldn't say that's true. They were drafted just one round apart and for about a year Jarry was considered better, but it's been a long time since Jarry was considered a real high pedigree goalie. Murray pulled close his first year in WBS, ahead the year after, and it wasn't even a comparison until this year.
I mean many people were mad Jarry wasn't placed on waivers in favor if DeSmith a year ago. That's a far cry from Price. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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$2.6M in caps space.
Three RFAs: Simon, Lafferty and Angello.
Fugly |
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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I don't think the offers for goalies are anywhere near what us fans think they are this year. I agree with the poster that if it's a 2nd rounder, you take it and run. - Aaron_85
Yeah, this is probably how it shakes out in terms of value. Nothing wrong with asking high, but they'll want to get this done by the draft if possible so time to make a deal for what you can soon. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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Yeah, this is probably how it shakes out in terms of value. Nothing wrong with asking high, but they'll want to get this done by the draft if possible so time to make a deal for what you can soon. - Tojo.
Oh yeah, you ask for high prices and see what shakes out. Murray got you two cups and anything at this point is great because then you're freeing up the cap space for sure.
I think it's a win regardless of what he is dealt for.
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Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Aliquippa, PA Joined: 11.11.2014
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$2.6M in caps space.
Three RFAs: Simon, Lafferty and Angello.
Fugly - Rinosaur
There's only roster space for 2 on the team, so it will fit. Not really room to add anyone who's not making less than 1M though so complicates Simon's return.
Lafferty and Angelo can both go to WBS without needing waivers. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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$2.6M in caps space.
Three RFAs: Simon, Lafferty and Angello.
Fugly - Rinosaur
We really need to pull off a Murray trade where we take no salary back or get a forward back that can be an asset to the top 9. |
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Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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$2.6M in caps space.
Three RFAs: Simon, Lafferty and Angello.
Fugly - Rinosaur
That 2 million retained and Johnson contracts are really weighing things down.
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Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 07.05.2019
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That 2 million retained and Johnson contracts are really weighing things down. - Aaron_85
Especially considering they could have saved $1.5M this year by buying out Bjug instead of trading him with half retained. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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There's only roster space for 2 on the team, so it will fit. Not really room to add anyone who's not making less than 1M though so complicates Simon's return.
Lafferty and Angelo can both go to WBS without needing waivers. - Tojo.
Just a sad situation when the goal was to improve the 3rd line and now it looks like it will be far worse.
They need to move JJ's salary.
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