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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 5:40 PM ET
That's why AZ wants to get rid of him.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Get any fishing in lately?

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 2 @ 5:41 PM ET
There's going to be other more affordable players available with a multi year flat cap on the horizon. It's just the beginning of this new market.
- boonerbuck

Exactly
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 2 @ 5:44 PM ET
Get any fishing in lately?
- boonerbuck

No, I've had a problem with my hip for the last few weeks and I've limited out on halibut for the year and my buddy keeps calling me to go hali fishing.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
Arizona cap hell looks like a teardown is coming. Revenue strapped makes a real probability.
- Nighthawk

Yeah and the 10.5 mil years of OEL's contract starts after next season.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
OEL is the 5th highest paid dman in the NHL. I doubt he makes the best top 10 and is heading for the backside of his career...
- boonerbuck

Won't be long till some surpass him.
Also he is a top 30 dman, don't forget that some contracts are lower simply because of when they were signed. And others are within a couple hundred K of his.
NuckUp
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cap Busters
Joined: 07.01.2019

Oct 2 @ 5:47 PM ET
OEL is the 5th highest paid dman in the NHL. I doubt he makes the best top 10 and is heading for the backside of his career...
- boonerbuck


This is why Carol said two birds and the reports are looking that way. You'd think OEL playing with QH and the young gun Canucks could up his value.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 5:51 PM ET
No, I've had a problem with my hip for the last few weeks and I've limited out on halibut for the year and my buddy keeps calling me to go hali fishing.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Thats too bad.

Local fishing just turned on for trout. I'll give it a try but I have a broken index finger on one hand and my wrist problems have flared up. Loading my Spratley 10 footer in and out of my truck will be a problem.

Amazing weather up here right now.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 2 @ 5:54 PM ET
A world of hurt...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes

Cannot see OEL coming here & us able to fit him in under the cap with Arizona unable to take back our dumps.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 5:54 PM ET
This is why Carol said two birds and the reports are looking that way. You'd think OEL playing with QH and the young gun Canucks could up his value.
- NuckUp


Reports are looking like they always do... out of control immediately and sounding more sensible in the following days.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 6:01 PM ET
A world of hurt...

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/coyotes

Cannot see OEL coming here & us able to fit him in under the cap with Arizona unable to take back our dumps.

- Nighthawk


Here's how I see it...

If the yotes were take take one of the Canucks overpaid dead weight players like Sutter or LE, they would be looking for quality elsewhere in the deal. This means 1st round pick, decent prospect or entry level contract with potential. They would also want salary retained on that dead weight.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 2 @ 6:01 PM ET
Do they serve McDonalds at Walter Reed
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Oct 2 @ 6:03 PM ET
Here's how I see it...

If the yotes were take take one of the Canucks overpaid dead weight players like Sutter or LE, they would be looking for quality elsewhere in the deal. This means 1st round pick, decent prospect or entry level contract with potential. They would also want salary retained on that dead weight.

- boonerbuck

Like Bonino, Sbisa and a 1st
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:21 PM ET
Here's how I see it...

If the yotes were take take one of the Canucks overpaid dead weight players like Sutter or LE, they would be looking for quality elsewhere in the deal. This means 1st round pick, decent prospect or entry level contract with potential. They would also want salary retained on that dead weight.

- boonerbuck

Sounds about right. My problem is we can ride out 1 or 2 years of Sutter & LE versus more cap problems. JB has to unload much more cap elsewhere to even consider it. Does he have deals in place waiting for such a move? Tanev would walk obviously.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:27 PM ET
Found this on HFBoards

Listening to Vancouver radio seems like it’s..

Juolevi
Prospect?
2nd rounder
Eriksson

The 2nd prospect wanted by Arizona appears to be the hold up. Also Arizona wanted Sutter but are willing to take Eriksson but with the better prospect that Vancouver doesn’t want to part with. Not sure how much of this is fact vs speculation.

Hope the Canucks walk away, it’s going to cripple them in a few years.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:33 PM ET
Found this on HFBoards
- Retinalz


Would rather trade a 1st than give up a better prospect like Hog, Podk, etc.

Still would rather not trade for OEL at all.
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 2 @ 6:35 PM ET
Found this on HFBoards
- Retinalz



If the prospect is someone like Woo I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. Getting rid of LE is a win in itself.

If it's Hoglander, Podz, or Rathbone then I would walk away.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 6:39 PM ET
Would rather trade a 1st than give up a better prospect like Hog, Podk, etc.

Still would rather not trade for OEL at all.

- NewYorkNuck


Canucks need an abundance of entry level contracts over the next few years post Petey and Hughes re-ups. No matter how we juggle it, Canucks would be trading that for a 8.25mil cap hit over the next 7 years instead.

Team definitely needs to improve D and the bottom 6.... but there has to be a more affordable way somehow.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:41 PM ET
If the prospect is someone like Woo I'd be all over that in a heartbeat. Getting rid of LE is a win in itself.

If it's Hoglander, Podz, or Rathbone then I would walk away.

- Mungo

I'd be fine with Rathbone. With Hughes and OEL we really wouldn't need Rathbone.
mungozen
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.25.2009

Oct 2 @ 6:42 PM ET
I get that the whole context of the above move is to free up cap space to re-sign current players and all but, let me get this straight?

OEL to Van

for

Boeser, Virtanen, Juolevi, 18th Overall, 20th Overall, Sutter and Erickson.

- Whiskey-Tango


As said, for giggles. Van cannot give away Erickson and Sutter contracts without some sweetener. Beagle, Rousell, Ferland are other assets that are tying up cap space with no trade value.

Something has to give in Van regardless of if OEL is coming to town. Moving one of the above contracts would help solidify other positions but, to move them there has to be some kind of sweetener.

Virtanen isn’t sweet enough, Joelevi isn’t sweet enough, do you really want to trade Demko? Maybe? But probably not.

So down the rabbit hole one goes laughing all the way.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Oct 2 @ 6:44 PM ET
The Onion reports:

"Rudy Giuliani Tests Positive For Slew Of Obscure Bat Diseases Unrelated To Covid-19"

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Oct 2 @ 6:46 PM ET
Yeah and the 10.5 mil years of OEL's contract starts after next season.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Cal and EDM tried and he said know. For a second pairing D it’s strange no one wants him 😐
Mungo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: VANCOUVER, BC
Joined: 03.10.2014

Oct 2 @ 6:46 PM ET
I'd be fine with Rathbone. With Hughes and OEL we really wouldn't need Rathbone.
- Retinalz



I'd prefer to keep him personally. You may be forced to not be able to re-sign Edler after this coming year and Rathbone would be a nice cheap replacement.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:47 PM ET
I'd be fine with Rathbone. With Hughes and OEL we really wouldn't need Rathbone.
- Retinalz


I'd rather not give up Rathbone AND Juolevi. Basically our two top LHD prospects.

Maybe they're asking for DiPietro?
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Oct 2 @ 6:49 PM ET
Canucks need an abundance of entry level contracts over the next few years post Petey and Hughes re-ups. No matter how we juggle it, Canucks would be trading that for a 8.25mil cap hit over the next 7 years instead.

Team definitely needs to improve D and the bottom 6.... but there has to be a more affordable way somehow.

- boonerbuck


Exactly. I would rather give up a good package for Carlo or Cernak. Guys that are younger and cheaper (and RHD). Yes, their ceiling isn't as high, but they don't have to match what Hughes can do.

Like you said – and especially with a flat cap – the Canucks need those ELCs coming in over the next few years.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Oct 2 @ 6:56 PM ET
I’d be down for Cernak as well but Tampa should try to find a way to keep him. They finally have the right mix of speed/skill/physicality and he’s a big part of the physicality for them
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