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Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 5:10 PM ET
I'm not sure why Buffalo doesn't make a deal with NYR for 1st pick. The Rangers need a center as they are deep on LW. Eichel wants out of Buffalo. Last I looked, the Rangers just created all sorts of cap space.

IF NYR doesn't do a pre-draft trade, then cutting a deal with LA and moving back one spot and taking Byfield ( a top-notch center) also makes a lot of sense for them.

Would Ottawa trade 3rd, 28th, and 33rd Picks for 1st. NYR still gets the center they need in Byfield or Stutzle ? Ottawa still would then have 1st and 5th.

Some Laine for Eichel deal also makes a ton of sense for the Jets. Maybe offer Copp or Roslovic as the sweetener. The only cog in that trade is Laine would need to sign an extension before a deal gets done. Heres to hoping ....

- jetsnation


Eichel is not happening, we have to drop that. Buffalo just paid 7 of his 10 million this year up front in a bonus. No way the move him, plus they have worse center depth than us.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 5:26 PM ET
Hamilton was the leading Norris favorite on everyone lists last year before he got hurt.
You are way off base on this one. Like not even close.

- Ross77

I agree with this!
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 3 @ 5:30 PM ET
You must be joking. A decent Dman, but he wouldn't make my or most hockey writers top 10. Guys like Carlson, Heiskanen, Hedman, Josi, Karlsson, Weber, etc are leaps and bounds ahead of Hamilton. New stars like Makar and Hughes also will be top 10 shortly.
- jetsnation


The thing about most hockey writers is that they write about hockey, and are in fact not employed by NHL teams in any meaningful capacity.
Hamilton is a juggernaut
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 3 @ 5:31 PM ET
I'm not sure why Buffalo doesn't make a deal with NYR for 1st pick. The Rangers need a center as they are deep on LW. Eichel wants out of Buffalo. Last I looked, the Rangers just created all sorts of cap space.

IF NYR doesn't do a pre-draft trade, then cutting a deal with LA and moving back one spot and taking Byfield ( a top-notch center) also makes a lot of sense for them.

Would Ottawa trade 3rd, 28th, and 33rd Picks for 1st. NYR still gets the center they need in Byfield or Stutzle ? Ottawa still would then have 1st and 5th.

Some Laine for Eichel deal also makes a ton of sense for the Jets. Maybe offer Copp or Roslovic as the sweetener. The only cog in that trade is Laine would need to sign an extension before a deal gets done. Heres to hoping ....

- jetsnation


Because Eichel doesn’t actually want out, and they would do everything possible to improve the team around him before even considering a trade in the event he did straight up demand a trade.

The Jets tried that approach with both Kane and Trouba, before being an asshat and wanting to go to New York no matter what respectively ended this approach
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
Potential Laine trade to Colorado.

To COL: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Bowen Byram, Samuel Girard, #24OA draft pick

Jets get two more young defensemen. Colorado pays a premium for Laine with the pick.

Next up: Columbus

- TheUltimateJet


I don’t think they bite on that one. Colorado won’t be interested in moving Girard with Zadorov on the block and Johnson aging, and Winnipeg won’t see anything but 5’8”.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 5:42 PM ET
Potential Laine deal with Columbus.

To CBJ: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Zach Werenski, #21OA pick

Next up: Dallas
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 3 @ 5:51 PM ET
I think it’s very possible one of Perfetti or Rossi fall to us
- Ross77


That would be shocking, especially if Perfetti fell, think he goes to the motor city.

If one or other available, no doubt our pick.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 3 @ 5:57 PM ET
I'm not sure why Buffalo doesn't make a deal with NYR for 1st pick. The Rangers need a center as they are deep on LW. Eichel wants out of Buffalo. Last I looked, the Rangers just created all sorts of cap space.

IF NYR doesn't do a pre-draft trade, then cutting a deal with LA and moving back one spot and taking Byfield ( a top-notch center) also makes a lot of sense for them.

Would Ottawa trade 3rd, 28th, and 33rd Picks for 1st. NYR still gets the center they need in Byfield or Stutzle ? Ottawa still would then have 1st and 5th.

Some Laine for Eichel deal also makes a ton of sense for the Jets. Maybe offer Copp or Roslovic as the sweetener. The only cog in that trade is Laine would need to sign an extension before a deal gets done. Heres to hoping ....

- jetsnation


The Rangers have RFA'S to sign, Deangelo, Strome and Lemieux, they really don't have that much cap space, suppose those could be players that could be sent to Buffalo in an Eichel trade but I can't see Buffalo trading him, they'd be fools to if they did.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 3 @ 5:58 PM ET
Potential Laine deal with Columbus.

To CBJ: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Zach Werenski, #21OA pick

Next up: Dallas

- TheUltimateJet


No. Werenski is 2nd pairing. Unfortunately overreacted. I’d take the player for sure, but the trade is not enough
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 3 @ 6:43 PM ET
Potential Laine deal with Columbus.

To CBJ: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Zach Werenski, #21OA pick

Next up: Dallas

- TheUltimateJet


Don't think the Jackets would ever include Werenski, but guess you never know. Would maybe ask for a tad more.

I was going to go young with CBS on any proposed deal: Laine, Niku and 6th rd - for - Texier, Foudy, D. Savard, and the 21st pick overall. Think with CBS being in cap hell they might have to add a guy like B. Jenner.

Not sure CBS would give up Texiier and Foudy but if not, no deal.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 6:47 PM ET
That would be shocking, especially if Perfetti fell, think he goes to the motor city.

If one or other available, no doubt our pick.

- grahamzky

Detroit is definitely the first wild card. If they go Drysdale it almost assures Sanderson will also go before 10 and if ottawa,
buffalo or Minny take Askarov then absolutely someone not expected to fall
To ten will.
Not to mention, every year there is a top ten super reach pick, this year it could be Jarvis, Lapeirre, Schneider or someone else no one is thinking possible on top ten.

Who knows, it could also be the jets making that reach pick like we did with Schief
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 3 @ 7:02 PM ET
Detroit is definitely the first wild card. If they go Drysdale it almost assures Sanderson will also go before 10 and if ottawa,
buffalo or Minny take Askarov then absolutely someone not expected to fall
To ten will.
Not to mention, every year there is a top ten super reach pick, this year it could be Jarvis, Lapeirre, Schneider or someone else no one is thinking possible on top ten.

Who knows, it could also be the jets making that reach pick like we did with Schief

- Ross77


I'm just hoping they take a center or winger.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 7:12 PM ET
I'm just hoping they take a center or winger.
- JetFuel


To be honest I think I’ve read to much about the prospects and my head is now spinning in million different directions on it
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 7:13 PM ET
To be honest I think I’ve read to much about the prospects and my head is now spinning in million different directions on it
- Ross77


But since most people call me
Rossi the dream would be to put that name on a Jets jersey, so that’s what I’m hoping for
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 7:33 PM ET
But since most people call me
Rossi the dream would be to put that name on a Jets jersey, so that’s what I’m hoping for

- Ross77

I hope your dreams come true!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 7:38 PM ET
I'm just hoping they take a center or winger.
- JetFuel

Wing is super easy to develop. No more wingers.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 7:46 PM ET
Potential Laine trade to Dallas.

To DAL: Patrick Laine

To WPG: Ty Delandrea, John Klingberg, #30OA, 2021 conditional first round pick (Pick is lottery protected, if Dallas misses the playoffs, they have the choice to give the Jets, the 2022 first round pick)

Next up: Detroit
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 3 @ 8:14 PM ET
Wing is super easy to develop. No more wingers.
- TheUltimateJet


Disagree, they're not that easy to develop and if Laine is traded they're going to need one plus Wheeler is old and declining, they're going to need some wingers sooner then later, don't have much hope for Vesalainen at this point.

If anything the Jets are pretty full with defense prospects, could use some RHD prospects but are full with LHD.

I hear all the time about how easy wingers are to develop/acquire yet there's plenty of teams that need them.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 3 @ 8:15 PM ET
But since most people call me
Rossi the dream would be to put that name on a Jets jersey, so that’s what I’m hoping for

- Ross77


I would love for Rossi or Perfetti to be there at #10. I don't believe they will last more than 8 picks before they are both gone. Some scouts say Sanderson and Lundell are somewhat over-rated to be top 10, so they may both be there. Lapierre belongs in the top 10 and maybe even top 7, but concussions etc have made him only top 20. He is the wild card because teams in the 10-13 range would have done extensive due dilly on him and if he checks out then he could be a surprise.

Seth Jarvis, a Braydon Point type player, would be a very good fit for the Jets 1-2 years out.


jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 3 @ 8:18 PM ET
Hamilton was the leading Norris favorite on everyone lists last year before he got hurt.
You are way off base on this one. Like not even close.

- Ross77


I stand by my statement. Hamilton is a good defenseman, but I would want anyone of the players I mentioned over Hamilton. He is not the best defenseman in the league.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
I would love for Rossi or Perfetti to be there at #10. I don't believe they will last more than 8 picks before they are both gone. Some scouts say Sanderson and Lundell are somewhat over-rated to be top 10, so they may both be there. Lapierre belongs in the top 10 and maybe even top 7, but concussions etc have made him only top 20. He is the wild card because teams in the 10-13 range would have done extensive due dilly on him and if he checks out then he could be a surprise.

Seth Jarvis, a Braydon Point type player, would be a very good fit for the Jets 1-2 years out.

- jetsnation


I wont be mad if it’s Jarvis
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 3 @ 8:26 PM ET
Detroit is definitely the first wild card. If they go Drysdale it almost assures Sanderson will also go before 10 and if ottawa,
buffalo or Minny take Askarov then absolutely someone not expected to fall
To ten will.
Not to mention, every year there is a top ten super reach pick, this year it could be Jarvis, Lapeirre, Schneider or someone else no one is thinking possible on top ten.

Who knows, it could also be the jets making that reach pick like we did with Schief

- Ross77


Yes, totally agree with what you are saying.

Detroit wild card. Let's not forget that Yzerman drafted Vasilevsky (I believe), not a bad move. Will he go for Russian franchise goalie once more, which opens up a lot of options?

I would think that C Lapierre (injury prone thus far) might be that wild card! Elite player when healthy so they say.

Would absolutely love it if the Jets (maybe trade down) take the RD man B. Scheneider. They might regardless if they don't trade down, and no one falls. Prince Albert kid with size and skill, RD and bigger. Clears the front! What's not to like?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
Potential Laine trade to Dallas.

To DAL: Patrick Laine

To WPG: Ty Delandrea, John Klingberg, #30OA, 2021 conditional first round pick (Pick is lottery protected, if Dallas misses the playoffs, they have the choice to give the Jets, the 2022 first round pick)

Next up: Detroit

- TheUltimateJet



Don't see a Dallas-Jets deal happening
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 3 @ 8:33 PM ET
Don't see a Dallas-Jets deal happening
- grahamzky

Me neither. I did commit to trading Laine to every team in the league. I am learning lots about other teams prospect pools.

I have 20 teams left to do.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 3 @ 8:41 PM ET
Me neither. I did commit to trading Laine to every team in the league. I am learning lots about other teams prospect pools.

I have 20 teams left to do.

- TheUltimateJet



As you know, we don't always agree.

But great and interesting reads! Many proposals quite possible! Keep up the good work!

I think the Central Division is out as far as trades. Teams there are very hesitant to deal, or won't deal, with each other. I don't blame them.
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