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Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 6 @ 1:25 AM ET
Bottom line is that if Laine doesn't get traded then the Jets need a guy who can create the time and space to give Laine room to get open. Need a guy with incredible hockey vision and intellect. Both Rossi and Perfetti are the two guys that can be had that have these skills. I compare them to a Mitch Marner / Gaudreau type player. Rossi being the better of the two because of his more all-around game. Perfetti needs a bit more muscle and toughness. Watch some videos. Perfect second line guy who can flourish away from the checking lines. It would be a dream to see one of them between Laine and Ehlers.

I'd happily trade away Roslovic for these two highly skilled magicians. I don't see either of them going past #6 in the draft although stranger things have happened.
I really hope Chevy has some balls at this draft to be creative.

- jetsnation


So, the perfect player you’ve described for Laine sounds a lot like Taylor Hall. What say we follow your trade and draft plan, but give the rookie an easier start by signing Hall to a 1/2 year big money deal and letting Mr. Gustafsson have a go with his 30 year old man physique.

Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Hall-Gustafsson-Laine
Connor-Rossi/Perfetti-Wheeler
Harkins-Lowry-Appleton

Morrissey-Niku
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo

The Jets transition game being broken with Buff, Trouba, Toby, and... Myers all gone has played hell on both Scheifele and Wheeler, and caused Connor (and everyone else really) to struggle as a result as well. The defence isn’t any where near as big a problem if we can at least get the puck out and moving forward more. We can win a chaotic shootout game with almost any team. We’re too far from being a shutdown hockey club to bother trying.
Puck moving D, and another strong play driver in Hall fixes all of our big issues. Balance everywhere. Roll all the lines and pairings. Profit.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 7:24 AM ET
So, the perfect player you’ve described for Laine sounds a lot like Taylor Hall. What say we follow your trade and draft plan, but give the rookie an easier start by signing Hall to a 1/2 year big money deal and letting Mr. Gustafsson have a go with his 30 year old man physique.

Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Hall-Gustafsson-Laine
Connor-Rossi/Perfetti-Wheeler
Harkins-Lowry-Appleton

Morrissey-Niku
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo

The Jets transition game being broken with Buff, Trouba, Toby, and... Myers all gone has played hell on both Scheifele and Wheeler, and caused Connor (and everyone else really) to struggle as a result as well. The defence isn’t anywhere near as big a problem if we can at least get the puck out and moving forward more. We can win a chaotic shootout game with almost any team. We’re too far from being a shutdown hockey club to bother trying.
Puck moving D, and another strong play driver in Hall fixes all of our big issues. Balance everywhere. Roll all the lines and pairings. Profit.

- Rexypoo


Copp is a good two-way player and has improved the last two years, but he lacks the skill and vision to ever be on the first line and is still doubtful to be even a servicable second-line center. Gustafsson is not nearly good enough yet to be a second-line center
.. Wheeler and Scheif read each other way too well to break them up just yet. Wheeler is still an elite player and passer that belongs on the top two lines. Giving him third line ice time is a waste. so you might as well just trade him if you think so badly of him. We don't need Hall , but getting him and then putting Copp ahead of him is a total joke. Same with wasting a rising NHL elite 30+ goal scorer in Connor on the third line. Niku top pairing ? He might not even make the team. If you think Demelo gets re-signed then why third pairing when he worked so well with Morrissey?

Seriously Rexy, this lineup is so bad and so poorly thought out, that the only reason you must be posting it is to get a rise from everyone. Still a troll.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 8:14 AM ET
Greg Wyshynski, senior NHL writer: The Senators are in a fascinating position but one that's a bit out of their control. They're going to take either Byfield or Stutzle at No. 3, depending on which player the Kings take at No. 2. Then the Red Wings will determine what they do with that No. 5 pick. "We have to be ready for a number of different things, including a scenario where somebody wants to move up and take No. 5 as well," Ottawa's top scout Trent Mann said.


Here's to hoping......
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 8:50 AM ET
I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ?
- jetsnation



As a fan who thinks that Roslovic is going to blossom this year if we can get that #2C, then I am not a huge fan of this idea. However if it happens, won't jump off the bridge or anything. Got to be creative I guess.

Sounds like Philly is the favorite right now in dealing Laine. Myers, Patrick, Frost and 23rd? Can we get Konecny thrown in somehow? May have to add on our own end.

Do think the Sens draft Drysdale not Sanderson. RH Drysdale would be a good compliment for LH Chabot.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 9:05 AM ET
As a fan who thinks that Roslovic is going to blossom this year if we can get that #2C, then I am not a huge fan of this idea. However if it happens, won't jump off the bridge or anything. Got to be creative I guess.

Sounds like Philly is the favorite right now in dealing Laine. Myers, Patrick, Frost and 23rd? Can we get Konecny thrown in somehow? May have to add on our own end.

Do think the Sens draft Drysdale not Sanderson. RH Drysdale would be a good compliment for LH Chabot.

- grahamzky


I just think that one of the unfortunate effects of Covid-19 is that it will have a stunting effect on the development of the next few years of draft prospects due to lack of organized hockey, shortened schedules, and availability of ice time.

We might lose Roslovic or Niku to Seattle anyways. Moving up in the draft to get one of. these guys makes sense to me. Perfetti won't be ready for next season. Rossi might be ready. Holtz is at least a year away. Seth Jarvis is two years away. Lundell might be ready for a 3-4th line role. The worst case is a RHD like Drysdale to replace Buff. There is a definite drop off around 8th pick, depending on where Sanderson and Askarov place.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 6 @ 10:00 AM ET
I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ?
- jetsnation


If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better?
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 10:05 AM ET
I just think that one of the unfortunate effects of Covid-19 is that it will have a stunting effect on the development of the next few years of draft prospects due to lack of organized hockey, shortened schedules, and availability of ice time.

We might lose Roslovic or Niku to Seattle anyways. Moving up in the draft to get one of. these guys makes sense to me. Perfetti won't be ready for next season. Rossi might be ready. Holtz is at least a year away. Seth Jarvis is two years away. Lundell might be ready for a 3-4th line role. The worst case is a RHD like Drysdale to replace Buff. There is a definite drop off around 8th pick, depending on where Sanderson and Askarov place.

- jetsnation


Possibly could be right about the Sens, maybe they'll think they are well positioned with the selection of Byfield/Sutzle, and trade down to select the Rissian goalie, Askarov? However, my thought is they'll be thrilled with the #3 pick and Drysdale.

Expansion draft? Right now the seven Jets forwards protected would be Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers, Roslovic and Copp, I believe. IF Laine is traded for that #2C, that player takes Copp's place and we still protect Jacko, right?

The Jets need to know NOW, what the scoop is with Little. Perhaps they already do. I think he retires.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 6 @ 10:30 AM ET
Possibly could be right about the Sens, maybe they'll think they are well positioned with the selection of Byfield/Sutzle, and trade down to select the Rissian goalie, Askarov? However, my thought is they'll be thrilled with the #3 pick and Drysdale.

Expansion draft? Right now the seven Jets forwards protected would be Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers, Roslovic and Copp, I believe. IF Laine is traded for that #2C, that player takes Copp's place and we still protect Jacko, right?

The Jets need to know NOW, what the scoop is with Little. Perhaps they already do. I think he retires.

- grahamzky

Little goes on LTIR for the remainder of his contract. He retires after that and most likely gets a job in the Jets head office.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 10:40 AM ET
Little goes on LTIR for the remainder of his contract. He retires after that and most likely gets a job in the Jets head office.
- TheUltimateJet


Yea, that's what I think too. But not official is it? Chevy was walking about it yesterday.

P.S. Thanks for the different trade scenarios you put out. As expected, don't always agree, but always interested. Good job!

Quite a few teams that just don't come across at all as suitable trading partners.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 6 @ 11:15 AM ET
Yea, that's what I think too. But not official is it? Chevy was walking about it yesterday.

P.S. Thanks for the different trade scenarios you put out. As expected, don't always agree, but always interested. Good job!

Quite a few teams that just don't come across at all as suitable trading partners.

- grahamzky

Thanks Grahamzky, I appreciate it!
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 6 @ 12:02 PM ET
If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better?
- TheUltimateJet


Does Ottawa develop their prospects on the 4th line with 6 minutes of ice time too?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
Does Ottawa develop their prospects on the 4th line with 6 minutes of ice time too?
- JetFuel

It's the genius known as Paul Maurice!
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 6 @ 2:43 PM ET
It's the genius known as Paul Maurice!
- TheUltimateJet



That's as much Chevy's fault as Maurice. everybody on the planet knows Maurice likes his 3rd grind line with Lowry. The simplest solution trade Lowry.

While he's at that get rid of Perreault to free up another roster spot for a young guy.

*edit* the first solution should be to fire the coach but Jets fans know that won't happen
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 6 @ 3:30 PM ET
Copp is a good two-way player and has improved the last two years, but he lacks the skill and vision to ever be on the first line and is still doubtful to be even a servicable second-line center. Gustafsson is not nearly good enough yet to be a second-line center
.. Wheeler and Scheif read each other way too well to break them up just yet. Wheeler is still an elite player and passer that belongs on the top two lines. Giving him third line ice time is a waste. so you might as well just trade him if you think so badly of him. We don't need Hall , but getting him and then putting Copp ahead of him is a total joke. Same with wasting a rising NHL elite 30+ goal scorer in Connor on the third line. Niku top pairing ? He might not even make the team. If you think Demelo gets re-signed then why third pairing when he worked so well with Morrissey?

Seriously Rexy, this lineup is so bad and so poorly thought out, that the only reason you must be posting it is to get a rise from everyone. Still a troll.

- jetsnation


Did you not read any of what I said?
-Blake Wheeler is in decline and overworked.
-Copp has proven himself more than capable in the top 6 at every opportunity, and his defence is the reason he’s on that line, not his offence.
-As for the positioning of Hall, Niku, Wheeler, DeMelo, and everyone else... I literally said roll all the lines, meaning equal minutes at 5v5, and further emphasized the need for balance.
You’re still thinking top 6/bottom 6
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 6 @ 3:33 PM ET
That's as much Chevy's fault as Maurice. everybody on the planet knows Maurice likes his 3rd grind line with Lowry. The simplest solution trade Lowry.

While he's at that get rid of Perreault to free up another roster spot for a young guy.

*edit* the first solution should be to fire the coach but Jets fans know that won't happen

- BWJumper


I’m honestly not sure it is Chevy’s fault.

Lowry is the driving force behind the bottom 6 when Copp is meandering up top, and part of our only functional dynamic duo when Copp is around.

Perreault was a legit top line level player when he signed his extension, but has since faded.

I think the fault lies with Maurice, Chipman, and Chevy. In that order. Chevy has no real power here.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 4:00 PM ET
I’m honestly not sure it is Chevy’s fault.

Lowry is the driving force behind the bottom 6 when Copp is meandering up top, and part of our only functional dynamic duo when Copp is around.

Perreault was a legit top line level player when he signed his extension, but has since faded.

I think the fault lies with Maurice, Chipman, and Chevy. In that order. Chevy has no real power here.

- Rexypoo



Domi just dealt to CBS for Josh Anderson. Interesting!
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 6 @ 4:23 PM ET
Domi just dealt to CBS for Josh Anderson. Interesting!
- grahamzky


yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 6 @ 4:47 PM ET
yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours
- Ross77


Bergevin needs to let us know where he buys his weed. What was he thinking on this deal?!?!?!?! Pretty sure 2C > 3RW
bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Oct 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better?
- TheUltimateJet



Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 4:54 PM ET
yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours
- Ross77


That's ok with me. Didn't seem like the perfect trading partner.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 4:56 PM ET
Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C.
- bikeguy99


I fully agree with that. Roslovic is now just coming on, and I'm hoping for a bug year, whether it's a C or RW
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 5:17 PM ET
Did you not read any of what I said?
-Blake Wheeler is in decline and overworked.
-Copp has proven himself more than capable in the top 6 at every opportunity, and his defence is the reason he’s on that line, not his offence.
-As for the positioning of Hall, Niku, Wheeler, DeMelo, and everyone else... I literally said roll all the lines, meaning equal minutes at 5v5, and further emphasized the need for balance.
You’re still thinking top 6/bottom 6

- Rexypoo


Complete nonsense. If your goal is to have the Jets finish dead last then go ahead with your lineup.


Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 6 @ 5:58 PM ET
EK saying Flyers shopping Voracek and willing to eat half his salary. I have to wonder if he to was part of the package Philly wanted to trade for Laine. I'd still rather Konecny over Voaracek even with salary retained.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 6 @ 6:00 PM ET
EK saying Flyers shopping Voracek and willing to eat half his salary. I have to wonder if he to was part of the package Philly wanted to trade for Laine. I'd still rather Konecny over Voaracek even with salary retained.
- Ross77


For sure!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 6 @ 6:35 PM ET
Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C.
- bikeguy99

Jetsnation said he has not developed. Go back and read the thread.
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