Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Bottom line is that if Laine doesn't get traded then the Jets need a guy who can create the time and space to give Laine room to get open. Need a guy with incredible hockey vision and intellect. Both Rossi and Perfetti are the two guys that can be had that have these skills. I compare them to a Mitch Marner / Gaudreau type player. Rossi being the better of the two because of his more all-around game. Perfetti needs a bit more muscle and toughness. Watch some videos. Perfect second line guy who can flourish away from the checking lines. It would be a dream to see one of them between Laine and Ehlers.
I'd happily trade away Roslovic for these two highly skilled magicians. I don't see either of them going past #6 in the draft although stranger things have happened.
I really hope Chevy has some balls at this draft to be creative. - jetsnation
So, the perfect player you’ve described for Laine sounds a lot like Taylor Hall. What say we follow your trade and draft plan, but give the rookie an easier start by signing Hall to a 1/2 year big money deal and letting Mr. Gustafsson have a go with his 30 year old man physique.
Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Hall-Gustafsson-Laine
Connor-Rossi/Perfetti-Wheeler
Harkins-Lowry-Appleton
Morrissey-Niku
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo
The Jets transition game being broken with Buff, Trouba, Toby, and... Myers all gone has played hell on both Scheifele and Wheeler, and caused Connor (and everyone else really) to struggle as a result as well. The defence isn’t any where near as big a problem if we can at least get the puck out and moving forward more. We can win a chaotic shootout game with almost any team. We’re too far from being a shutdown hockey club to bother trying.
Puck moving D, and another strong play driver in Hall fixes all of our big issues. Balance everywhere. Roll all the lines and pairings. Profit. |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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So, the perfect player you’ve described for Laine sounds a lot like Taylor Hall. What say we follow your trade and draft plan, but give the rookie an easier start by signing Hall to a 1/2 year big money deal and letting Mr. Gustafsson have a go with his 30 year old man physique.
Copp-Scheifele-Ehlers
Hall-Gustafsson-Laine
Connor-Rossi/Perfetti-Wheeler
Harkins-Lowry-Appleton
Morrissey-Niku
Heinola-Pionk
Samberg-DeMelo
The Jets transition game being broken with Buff, Trouba, Toby, and... Myers all gone has played hell on both Scheifele and Wheeler, and caused Connor (and everyone else really) to struggle as a result as well. The defence isn’t anywhere near as big a problem if we can at least get the puck out and moving forward more. We can win a chaotic shootout game with almost any team. We’re too far from being a shutdown hockey club to bother trying.
Puck moving D, and another strong play driver in Hall fixes all of our big issues. Balance everywhere. Roll all the lines and pairings. Profit. - Rexypoo
Copp is a good two-way player and has improved the last two years, but he lacks the skill and vision to ever be on the first line and is still doubtful to be even a servicable second-line center. Gustafsson is not nearly good enough yet to be a second-line center
.. Wheeler and Scheif read each other way too well to break them up just yet. Wheeler is still an elite player and passer that belongs on the top two lines. Giving him third line ice time is a waste. so you might as well just trade him if you think so badly of him. We don't need Hall , but getting him and then putting Copp ahead of him is a total joke. Same with wasting a rising NHL elite 30+ goal scorer in Connor on the third line. Niku top pairing ? He might not even make the team. If you think Demelo gets re-signed then why third pairing when he worked so well with Morrissey?
Seriously Rexy, this lineup is so bad and so poorly thought out, that the only reason you must be posting it is to get a rise from everyone. Still a troll. |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Greg Wyshynski, senior NHL writer: The Senators are in a fascinating position but one that's a bit out of their control. They're going to take either Byfield or Stutzle at No. 3, depending on which player the Kings take at No. 2. Then the Red Wings will determine what they do with that No. 5 pick. "We have to be ready for a number of different things, including a scenario where somebody wants to move up and take No. 5 as well," Ottawa's top scout Trent Mann said.
Here's to hoping...... |
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I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ? - jetsnation
As a fan who thinks that Roslovic is going to blossom this year if we can get that #2C, then I am not a huge fan of this idea. However if it happens, won't jump off the bridge or anything. Got to be creative I guess.
Sounds like Philly is the favorite right now in dealing Laine. Myers, Patrick, Frost and 23rd? Can we get Konecny thrown in somehow? May have to add on our own end.
Do think the Sens draft Drysdale not Sanderson. RH Drysdale would be a good compliment for LH Chabot. |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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As a fan who thinks that Roslovic is going to blossom this year if we can get that #2C, then I am not a huge fan of this idea. However if it happens, won't jump off the bridge or anything. Got to be creative I guess.
Sounds like Philly is the favorite right now in dealing Laine. Myers, Patrick, Frost and 23rd? Can we get Konecny thrown in somehow? May have to add on our own end.
Do think the Sens draft Drysdale not Sanderson. RH Drysdale would be a good compliment for LH Chabot. - grahamzky
I just think that one of the unfortunate effects of Covid-19 is that it will have a stunting effect on the development of the next few years of draft prospects due to lack of organized hockey, shortened schedules, and availability of ice time.
We might lose Roslovic or Niku to Seattle anyways. Moving up in the draft to get one of. these guys makes sense to me. Perfetti won't be ready for next season. Rossi might be ready. Holtz is at least a year away. Seth Jarvis is two years away. Lundell might be ready for a 3-4th line role. The worst case is a RHD like Drysdale to replace Buff. There is a definite drop off around 8th pick, depending on where Sanderson and Askarov place. |
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I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ? - jetsnation
If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better? |
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I just think that one of the unfortunate effects of Covid-19 is that it will have a stunting effect on the development of the next few years of draft prospects due to lack of organized hockey, shortened schedules, and availability of ice time.
We might lose Roslovic or Niku to Seattle anyways. Moving up in the draft to get one of. these guys makes sense to me. Perfetti won't be ready for next season. Rossi might be ready. Holtz is at least a year away. Seth Jarvis is two years away. Lundell might be ready for a 3-4th line role. The worst case is a RHD like Drysdale to replace Buff. There is a definite drop off around 8th pick, depending on where Sanderson and Askarov place. - jetsnation
Possibly could be right about the Sens, maybe they'll think they are well positioned with the selection of Byfield/Sutzle, and trade down to select the Rissian goalie, Askarov? However, my thought is they'll be thrilled with the #3 pick and Drysdale.
Expansion draft? Right now the seven Jets forwards protected would be Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers, Roslovic and Copp, I believe. IF Laine is traded for that #2C, that player takes Copp's place and we still protect Jacko, right?
The Jets need to know NOW, what the scoop is with Little. Perhaps they already do. I think he retires. |
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Possibly could be right about the Sens, maybe they'll think they are well positioned with the selection of Byfield/Sutzle, and trade down to select the Rissian goalie, Askarov? However, my thought is they'll be thrilled with the #3 pick and Drysdale.
Expansion draft? Right now the seven Jets forwards protected would be Connor, Scheifele, Wheeler, Laine, Ehlers, Roslovic and Copp, I believe. IF Laine is traded for that #2C, that player takes Copp's place and we still protect Jacko, right?
The Jets need to know NOW, what the scoop is with Little. Perhaps they already do. I think he retires. - grahamzky
Little goes on LTIR for the remainder of his contract. He retires after that and most likely gets a job in the Jets head office. |
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Little goes on LTIR for the remainder of his contract. He retires after that and most likely gets a job in the Jets head office. - TheUltimateJet
Yea, that's what I think too. But not official is it? Chevy was walking about it yesterday.
P.S. Thanks for the different trade scenarios you put out. As expected, don't always agree, but always interested. Good job!
Quite a few teams that just don't come across at all as suitable trading partners. |
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Yea, that's what I think too. But not official is it? Chevy was walking about it yesterday.
P.S. Thanks for the different trade scenarios you put out. As expected, don't always agree, but always interested. Good job!
Quite a few teams that just don't come across at all as suitable trading partners. - grahamzky
Thanks Grahamzky, I appreciate it! |
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If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better? - TheUltimateJet
Does Ottawa develop their prospects on the 4th line with 6 minutes of ice time too? |
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Does Ottawa develop their prospects on the 4th line with 6 minutes of ice time too? - JetFuel
It's the genius known as Paul Maurice! |
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It's the genius known as Paul Maurice! - TheUltimateJet
That's as much Chevy's fault as Maurice. everybody on the planet knows Maurice likes his 3rd grind line with Lowry. The simplest solution trade Lowry.
While he's at that get rid of Perreault to free up another roster spot for a young guy.
*edit* the first solution should be to fire the coach but Jets fans know that won't happen |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Copp is a good two-way player and has improved the last two years, but he lacks the skill and vision to ever be on the first line and is still doubtful to be even a servicable second-line center. Gustafsson is not nearly good enough yet to be a second-line center
.. Wheeler and Scheif read each other way too well to break them up just yet. Wheeler is still an elite player and passer that belongs on the top two lines. Giving him third line ice time is a waste. so you might as well just trade him if you think so badly of him. We don't need Hall , but getting him and then putting Copp ahead of him is a total joke. Same with wasting a rising NHL elite 30+ goal scorer in Connor on the third line. Niku top pairing ? He might not even make the team. If you think Demelo gets re-signed then why third pairing when he worked so well with Morrissey?
Seriously Rexy, this lineup is so bad and so poorly thought out, that the only reason you must be posting it is to get a rise from everyone. Still a troll. - jetsnation
Did you not read any of what I said?
-Blake Wheeler is in decline and overworked.
-Copp has proven himself more than capable in the top 6 at every opportunity, and his defence is the reason he’s on that line, not his offence.
-As for the positioning of Hall, Niku, Wheeler, DeMelo, and everyone else... I literally said roll all the lines, meaning equal minutes at 5v5, and further emphasized the need for balance.
You’re still thinking top 6/bottom 6 |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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That's as much Chevy's fault as Maurice. everybody on the planet knows Maurice likes his 3rd grind line with Lowry. The simplest solution trade Lowry.
While he's at that get rid of Perreault to free up another roster spot for a young guy.
*edit* the first solution should be to fire the coach but Jets fans know that won't happen - BWJumper
I’m honestly not sure it is Chevy’s fault.
Lowry is the driving force behind the bottom 6 when Copp is meandering up top, and part of our only functional dynamic duo when Copp is around.
Perreault was a legit top line level player when he signed his extension, but has since faded.
I think the fault lies with Maurice, Chipman, and Chevy. In that order. Chevy has no real power here. |
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I’m honestly not sure it is Chevy’s fault.
Lowry is the driving force behind the bottom 6 when Copp is meandering up top, and part of our only functional dynamic duo when Copp is around.
Perreault was a legit top line level player when he signed his extension, but has since faded.
I think the fault lies with Maurice, Chipman, and Chevy. In that order. Chevy has no real power here. - Rexypoo
Domi just dealt to CBS for Josh Anderson. Interesting! |
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Domi just dealt to CBS for Josh Anderson. Interesting! - grahamzky
yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours |
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bikeguy99
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Joined: 09.05.2017
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yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours - Ross77
Bergevin needs to let us know where he buys his weed. What was he thinking on this deal?!?!?!?! Pretty sure 2C > 3RW |
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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils |
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Joined: 09.05.2017
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If Roslovic has not developed under our "draft & development" system, what makes Ottawa think they can develop him better? - TheUltimateJet
Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C. |
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yup, I'd assume this wipes Montreal from laine rumours - Ross77
That's ok with me. Didn't seem like the perfect trading partner. |
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Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C. - bikeguy99
I fully agree with that. Roslovic is now just coming on, and I'm hoping for a bug year, whether it's a C or RW |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Did you not read any of what I said?
-Blake Wheeler is in decline and overworked.
-Copp has proven himself more than capable in the top 6 at every opportunity, and his defence is the reason he’s on that line, not his offence.
-As for the positioning of Hall, Niku, Wheeler, DeMelo, and everyone else... I literally said roll all the lines, meaning equal minutes at 5v5, and further emphasized the need for balance.
You’re still thinking top 6/bottom 6 - Rexypoo
Complete nonsense. If your goal is to have the Jets finish dead last then go ahead with your lineup.
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EK saying Flyers shopping Voracek and willing to eat half his salary. I have to wonder if he to was part of the package Philly wanted to trade for Laine. I'd still rather Konecny over Voaracek even with salary retained. |
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EK saying Flyers shopping Voracek and willing to eat half his salary. I have to wonder if he to was part of the package Philly wanted to trade for Laine. I'd still rather Konecny over Voaracek even with salary retained. - Ross77
For sure! |
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Who said Raslovic hasn't developed? I think he has played fantastic given his TOI and linemates. I still think he is the current best option for 2C. Hopefully Chevy can find a new 2C and keep Ras on the right, but if not, he did very well with the moose at C. - bikeguy99
Jetsnation said he has not developed. Go back and read the thread. |
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