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TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 4:51 PM ET
Potential Laine trade to Washington.

To WSH: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Evgeny Kuznetsov, #25 OA pick

Next up: Winnipeg
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 4:52 PM ET
Can we take a moment to appreciate that you might just start a Laine VS Matthews debate because of a hypothetical Toronto trade posted the day before the draft on an article about Dylan Samberg?
- Rexypoo

Yes let's take that moment!
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 4:55 PM ET
Fantasy Laine trade with the 92-93 Winnipeg Jets.

To 92-93 WPG: Patrik Laine

To Current WPG: Teemu Selanne, Alexei Zhamnov, Keith Tkachuk, Phill Housley

There you go all problems solved: toughness, Center ice position, puck moving defenseman, high end scorer!

BW, now you can officially say that the Ultimate one has traded Laine to every team in the NHL.
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 5 @ 5:58 PM ET
Yes let's take that moment!
- TheUltimateJet


No debate needed.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
If I'm Chevy then I would be asking NYR's what they want in a Laine deal for #1 pick and so long as it's not abnormally ridiculous they can have it . Laine plus Roslovic would be hard to refuse. I would then use up all that freed up cap space to get one two top UFA defensemen that is on the market right now. In addition, all the extra cap space I can take a good player from cap squeezed Tampa or Philly . Jets would be a far superior team to what they were last year. Still cap space to upgrade that 4th line.

Connor -Scheif- Wheeler
Lafreniere - T. Johnston - Ehlers (speed line)
Lowry- Copp - P. Maroon
Perreault - Harkins/ Gustaffson - Appleton

Morrissey - Pionk
Heinola - T. Barrie / Vantanen
Samberg - Poolman
bennythehat
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 03.23.2015

Oct 5 @ 5:59 PM ET
Fantasy Laine trade with the 92-93 Winnipeg Jets.

To 92-93 WPG: Patrik Laine

To Current WPG: Teemu Selanne, Alexei Zhamnov, Keith Tkachuk, Phill Housley

There you go all problems solved: toughness, Center ice position, puck moving defenseman, high end scorer!

BW, now you can officially say that the Ultimate one has traded Laine to every team in the NHL.

- TheUltimateJet


We may have to throw in Perreault for some cap relief.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 5 @ 6:21 PM ET
If I'm Chevy then I would be asking NYR's what they want in a Laine deal for #1 pick and so long as it's not abnormally ridiculous they can have it . Laine plus Roslovic would be hard to refuse. I would then use up all that freed up cap space to get one two top UFA defensemen that is on the market right now. In addition, all the extra cap space I can take a good player from cap squeezed Tampa or Philly . Jets would be a far superior team to what they were last year. Still cap space to upgrade that 4th line.

Connor -Scheif- Wheeler
Lafreniere - T. Johnston - Ehlers (speed line)
Lowry- Copp - P. Maroon
Perreault - Harkins/ Gustaffson - Appleton

Morrissey - Pionk
Heinola - T. Barrie / Vantanen
Samberg - Poolman

- jetsnation


The Rangers are in a serious cap crunch, yes they have $23 million dollars cap space but they have RFA'S to sign in Deangelo, Strome, Lemieux, Georgiev plus not a full lineup yet, gotta think they're banking on Lafreniere's ELC saving them some cap space, can't see them parting with him, its crazy but the Rangers will be using up $13 million in cap space on buyouts this season.

Don't see the Rangers as a likely match in a Laine trade.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 7:01 PM ET
Crap, I just realized that I forgot about Vegas.

Potential Laine trade to Vegas.

To VEG: Patrik Laine

To WPG: William Karlsson, Jonathan Marchessault, #29 OA pick

Finally Done!!!
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 5 @ 7:16 PM ET
Crap, I just realized that I forgot about Vegas.

Potential Laine trade to Vegas.

To VEG: Patrik Laine

To WPG: William Karlsson, Jonathan Marchessault, #29 OA pick

Finally Done!!!

- TheUltimateJet


Laine's trade worth in terms of current Jets players:

2c Copp, LD Heinola, Roslovic because everybody includes Roslovic in trades and 10th pick
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 7:30 PM ET
Laine's trade worth in terms of current Jets players:

2c Copp, LD Heinola, Roslovic because everybody includes Roslovic in trades and 10th pick

- BWJumper

Not sure if you caught it in my last message: BW, now you can officially say that Ultimate has traded Laine to every team in the NHL.
JetFuel
Joined: 10.08.2019

Oct 5 @ 8:00 PM ET
Not sure if you caught it in my last message: BW, now you can officially say that Ultimate has traded Laine to every team in the NHL.
- TheUltimateJet


Honestly do we think Chevy trades Laine within the Western Conference?

I don't so I think he goes to Montreal, Philly or Jersey, the other Eastern Conference teams are in either full on rebuilds, don't have the cap space or would have to do too much maneuvering to create the cap space to facilitate a Laine trade or don't have the future cap space for what his new contract will be due to some big rfa's of their own to sign in the next couple years.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Oct 5 @ 8:26 PM ET
Crap, I just realized that I forgot about Vegas.

Potential Laine trade to Vegas.

To VEG: Patrik Laine

To WPG: William Karlsson, Jonathan Marchessault, #29 OA pick

Finally Done!!!

- TheUltimateJet


They’d have to include Krebs or Glass
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:28 PM ET
Potential Laine trade to Washington.

To WSH: Patrik Laine

To WPG: Evgeny Kuznetsov, #25 OA pick

Next up: Winnipeg

- TheUltimateJet


F*ck no. As a reformed Caps fan, Kuzy is fun, but he’s not very good on the whole. Horrid contract.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:31 PM ET
If I'm Chevy then I would be asking NYR's what they want in a Laine deal for #1 pick and so long as it's not abnormally ridiculous they can have it . Laine plus Roslovic would be hard to refuse. I would then use up all that freed up cap space to get one two top UFA defensemen that is on the market right now. In addition, all the extra cap space I can take a good player from cap squeezed Tampa or Philly . Jets would be a far superior team to what they were last year. Still cap space to upgrade that 4th line.

Connor -Scheif- Wheeler
Lafreniere - T. Johnston - Ehlers (speed line)
Lowry- Copp - P. Maroon
Perreault - Harkins/ Gustaffson - Appleton

Morrissey - Pionk
Heinola - T. Barrie / Vantanen
Samberg - Poolman

- jetsnation


-We already know that top line will fail. It has for 2 years.
-Line 2 looks fun, but that’s a lot of pressure on Ehlers is LAF isn’t ready and Johnson can’t bounce back.
-Love line 3.
-Love line 4.

-Morrissey-Pionk doesn’t work. Pionk can’t handle those minutes.
-Heinola-Barrie would be fun. Vatanen is kinda bad.
-Samberg-Poolman is fun.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:32 PM ET
Crap, I just realized that I forgot about Vegas.

Potential Laine trade to Vegas.

To VEG: Patrik Laine

To WPG: William Karlsson, Jonathan Marchessault, #29 OA pick

Finally Done!!!

- TheUltimateJet


I do it. Vegas doesn’t.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 5 @ 8:33 PM ET
Laine's trade worth in terms of current Jets players:

2c Copp, LD Heinola, Roslovic because everybody includes Roslovic in trades and 10th pick

- BWJumper


Not enough.

You’re looking at on ice value, not trade market value.

The Jets don’t even seem to know what they have in Copp, Heinola is magic beans to everyone but us, and Roslovic is a player that’s been shopped casually for 2 years. The value to us is way higher than anyone else with all 3.
grahamzky
Location: MB
Joined: 09.01.2008

Oct 5 @ 8:37 PM ET
You can't blame DeMelo for wanting to test the market.

As far as the Jets and an internal budget.... I mentioned this at the start of the playoffs about salary caps and budgets. I just can't see how teams can play top dollar for all these free agents right now when they can't put fans in the stands. You have to think that salaries for UFA's right now might actually come down a bit. If I were Chevy I would absolutely be making a deal for Laine that included another top 10 pick in this year's draft and pick up a top-quality junior player who will be ready by next year
and not hurt the cap much for years to come. It makes perfect sense.

Laine to LAK for a player plus 2nd pick makes a lot of sense in these uncertain times. We get Byfield or Stutzle and a decent player. I do that deal all day long as the Jets GM.

- jetsnation


I too would like to see the Jets another draft choice, although not sure it would be top ten.

Do you think either the Jets or Carolina would consider:
Carolina - M. Necas, B. Pesce and 13th for Laine? Carolina, with the deal, the Canes get Aho's Jr line-mate, plus they should be able to afford both Laine and D. Hamilton. Jets draft Quinn and B. Schneider.

If not, perhaps the Jets offer Laine to LA to play with Kopitar - for Vilardi, Kempe and the 2ND OVERALL PICK. Maybe not reasonable or far-fetched?

Other than that, we may have to turn to the Habs, Philly, NJ or CBS to get that additional draft choice. Also think the Isles remain in play.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 5 @ 9:32 PM ET
Not enough.

You’re looking at on ice value, not trade market value.

The Jets don’t even seem to know what they have in Copp, Heinola is magic beans to everyone but us, and Roslovic is a player that’s been shopped casually for 2 years. The value to us is way higher than anyone else with all 3.

- Rexypoo


I can already see the meltdown you are going to have Rexypoo if Laine gets traded, I know it's not going to be enough for you.
BWJumper
Location: MB
Joined: 01.26.2019

Oct 5 @ 9:36 PM ET
Not sure if you caught it in my last message: BW, now you can officially say that Ultimate has traded Laine to every team in the NHL.
- TheUltimateJet


Great Job UJ, and you didn't add Lowry to one of your proposals I'm shocked.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 5 @ 10:23 PM ET
I can already see the meltdown you are going to have Rexypoo if Laine gets traded, I know it's not going to be enough for you.

- BWJumper


I won’t meltdown. I’ll just be dead inside :p
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 5 @ 11:42 PM ET
Would anyone be upset on here if the Jets were to trade Roslovic in order to swap picks (10th for 5th) with Ottawa's 5th pick and lockdown Rossi or Perfetti. I personally think that these two players in particular still have a massive upside. Perfetti has a Gretzky-like mind and Rossi's skills are off the charts. Ottawa still get two picks in the top 10 plus a young Roslovic ( who's talent is being wasted on the Jets ).

The Jets also have the Seattle expansion draft to think about so losing Roslovic isn't such a bad thing. A win-win for both teams.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Oct 5 @ 11:54 PM ET
Would anyone be upset on here if the Jets were to trade Roslovic in order to swap picks (10th for 5th) with Ottawa's 5th pick and lockdown Rossi or Perfetti. I personally think that these two players in particular still have a massive upside. Perfetti has a Gretzky-like mind and Rossi's skills are off the charts. Ottawa still get two picks in the top 10 plus a young Roslovic ( who's talent is being wasted on the Jets ).

The Jets also have the Seattle expansion draft to think about so losing Roslovic isn't such a bad thing. A win-win for both teams.

- jetsnation

I don't think Ottawa is doing that. As a Jets fan I would be ecstatic if that happens.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 12:04 AM ET
I don't think Ottawa is doing that. As a Jets fan I would be ecstatic if that happens.
- TheUltimateJet


I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ?
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Oct 6 @ 12:32 AM ET
I'm not so sure Ottawa fans would be very much upset at getting three good young players for two. For example, Ottawa might get Stutzle, Sanderson, and Roslovic. Two good forwards plus a defenseman on a rebuilding team and they still have two more additional picks in the top 35. Chevy ?
- jetsnation


I love the idea. But what do you want that badly at 5 vs at 10?
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Oct 6 @ 1:00 AM ET
I love the idea. But what do you want that badly at 5 vs at 10?
- Rexypoo


Bottom line is that if Laine doesn't get traded then the Jets need a guy who can create the time and space to give Laine room to get open. Need a guy with incredible hockey vision and intellect. Both Rossi and Perfetti are the two guys that can be had that have these skills. I compare them to a Mitch Marner / Gaudreau type player. Rossi being the better of the two because of his more all-around game. Perfetti needs a bit more muscle and toughness. Watch some videos. Perfect second line guy who can flourish away from the checking lines. It would be a dream to see one of them between Laine and Ehlers.

I'd happily trade away Roslovic for these two highly skilled magicians. I don't see either of them going past #6 in the draft although stranger things have happened.
I really hope Chevy has some balls at this draft to be creative.
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