you think that gets it done though? I don't really think so. Also in the next couple years coots' deal is up, so they have to re-sign him. try to work out a long term deal with hart as well. Giroux's deal is up too, so some cap relief there, but do they sign him to another deal?

i don't know if i like the cap implications it could have. i'm not poopting on laine, i just don't know if he's worth what the flyers would need to give up, along with paying him what he's going to want to get paid going forward.
- Ftown19125

Assuming we get rid of jvr as well, he’s gotta go . Idk it’s a starting point.

I’m all in on Laine, what would be your trade to WPG? I had suggested two firsts in the upcoming drafts along with Laughton and Ghost. Laine still needs to be signed .
- ClaudeFather

I would give up anything and anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier. However, if you can lowball the Jets, you’d have to think higher. Ftown and myself heard two firsts (which the Blues gave up for Schenn) and a top 4 defenseman. I think this asking price is reasonable. I personally would ask if they’d take Konecny, Ghost and a second as my lowball. As I’ve stated, Konecny and Laine have put up similar numbers the past two seasons. I want Laine for dynamic scoring.

Likely be based on what?

Ftown and I most be reading the same reports because I heard the exact report ftown just presented to me.
- SuperSchennBros

Its based on my opinion from the reports I read stating that WPG is in market for a top 4 d and 2nd line C. It fits with what you posted with Pronger trade.

Lupul was top 6 winger at the time. Sbisa was our biggest D prospect who had 1 season under his belt plus the picks. We dont exactly have a #2 C to offer.

So you are prob looking at Sanheim, Frost and 2 firsts. Realistically if you had Laine what would you want in return for him?

Id be selling higher if i was GM. For 22 year old star player. Realistically i dont see a scenario where wpg takes 👻

I mentioned a PTO last week, I like the idea but I think Ryan finds a contract but at 33 you never can tell
- wcorvette

Yeah will of course depend on what he wants. But flyers pose an interest I’m sure for one more kick at the bucket. They said he looked good after his return. Who knows.

I would be interested depending on the price.

Lmao
- ClaudeFather

I know, right?

Dude barely posts, and when he does 50% of the time its Donovan McNabb style passive hostility towards me.

Besides, he still hasn't read the culinary secrets list I am gonna post someday soon.

Its based on my opinion from the reports I read stating that WPG is in market for a top 4 d and 2nd line C. It fits with what you posted with Pronger trade.

Lupul was top 6 winger at the time. Sbisa was our biggest D prospect who had 1 season under his belt plus the picks. We dont exactly have a #2 C to offer.

So you are prob looking at Sanheim, Frost and 2 firsts. Realistically if you had Laine what would you want in return for him?

Id be selling higher if i was GM. For 22 year old star player. Realistically i dont see a scenario where wpg takes 👻
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I didn’t hear anything about a second line center but based on splashes we’ve made that I can remember. It sounds like two firsts rounders are a given, just to start. Schenn brought up 2 firsts. We gave up 2 firsts plus for Pronger.

I didn’t hear anything about a second line center but based on splashes we’ve made that I can remember. It sounds like two firsts rounders are a given, just to start. Schenn brought up 2 firsts. We gave up 2 firsts plus for Pronger.
- SuperSchennBros

schenn and taking back a bad contract brought 2 firsts.

I didn’t hear anything about a second line center but based on splashes we’ve made that I can remember. It sounds like two firsts rounders are a given, just to start. Schenn brought up 2 firsts. We gave up 2 firsts plus for Pronger.
- SuperSchennBros

Schenn got 2 firsts but remember we took a cap dump in return as well in Lehtera. I dont think Schenn alone gets 2 firsts.

Speaking on behalf of the board: you should both leave.
- Tomahawk

The winner for beat doesn't of the day. Right here!
Well done, sir!

I honestly thought my sarcasm was funny. I guess I was misguided.

Speaking of bong, I went to school in Oregon, and umm, spent most of my college days stoned or worse. I used to listen to Pink Floyd and would cover my head with a blanket and smoke under there, so that none of the fumes would escape my ravenous nostrils.

But since then, it's a rare occurrence that does not include today. My primary affliction today is the brain bleed from having to watch the 'debate' last night.
- PT21

That debate was truly ridiculous.

Konecny and Laine have put up similar numbers the past two seasons. I want Laine for dynamic scoring.
- SuperSchennBros

Based on what Rantanen got, I assume Laine will ask for 7.5-8m. Konecny is signed for a while for 5.5m. So, you have to also consider whether those 10 extra goals and 10 less assists are worth 2.5m + all the other assets already discussed.

I honestly thought my sarcasm was funny. I guess I was misguided.

Speaking of bong, I went to school in Oregon, and umm, spent most of my college days stoned or worse. I used to listen to Pink Floyd and would cover my head with a blanket and smoke under there, so that none of the fumes would escape my ravenous nostrils.

But since then, it's a rare occurrence that does not include today. My primary affliction today is the brain bleed from having to watch the 'debate' last night.
- PT21

By any chance, did you happen to play baseball for your school and grow-up on two rivers?

Pietrangelo is a really long name. But you are right I should have just typed it out originally. I've had to type out twice since to explain myself. Saving time is always a delicate balance.
- mickel25

Tech writing fundamental: Unambiguity eschews obfuscation.

Why isn't anyone mentioning Toffoli? He is a good two way player, steady, dependable. Not very flashy and not high-end, but would add stability and skill to any line he plays on.
- PT21

Was just talking about him with my buddies the other day. I don't disagree with your opinion of him, and at just 28 years old, I believe that he'll be one of the most sought after FAs around the league. Meaning whichever team signs him will almost certainly be over paying for him. And in the Flyers case, they would have to make other moves in order to be able to afford him. I don't think highly enough of Toffoli to reshape your roster just to get him. He's not on that level for me.

I could be wrong, but I don't think skating is one of his strengths. I would prefer that if they're going to bring in a FA, that skating/speed be one of their best attributes. I also feel like the Flyers already have enough guys that fit the description that you laid out. Lindblom, Laughton, Hayes, and at this point, Giroux (I know I'm gonna get roasted for that last one...). In other words, they have enough stability. What this lineup lacks is a game-changer. Which is obviously very difficult to acquire

I would give up anything and anyone not named Carter Hart, Ivan Provorov and Sean Couturier. However, if you can lowball the Jets, you’d have to think higher. Ftown and myself heard two firsts (which the Blues gave up for Schenn) and a top 4 defenseman. I think this asking price is reasonable. I personally would ask if they’d take Konecny, Ghost and a second as my lowball. As I’ve stated, Konecny and Laine have put up similar numbers the past two seasons. I want Laine for dynamic scoring.
- SuperSchennBros

I wouldn’t immediately say no but I think TK has some real value at his current contract. Playoffs he sucked bad but I’m not going to write him off because of one odd playoff run.

Was just talking about him with my buddies the other day. I don't disagree with your opinion of him, and at just 28 years old, I believe that he'll be one of the most sought after FAs around the league. Meaning whichever team signs him will almost certainly be over paying for him. And in the Flyers case, they would have to make other moves in order to be able to afford him. I don't think highly enough of Toffoli to reshape your roster just to get him. He's not on that level for me.

I could be wrong, but I don't think skating is one of his strengths. I would prefer that if they're going to bring in a FA, that skating/speed be one of their best attributes. I also feel like the Flyers already have enough guys that fit the description that you laid out. Lindblom, Laughton, Hayes, and at this point, Giroux (I know I'm gonna get roasted for that last one...). In other words, they have enough stability. What this lineup lacks is a game-changer. Which is obviously very difficult to acquire
- Big_E_88

Yes, I understand the desire for a game breaker, and for speed. But Toffoli seems like a solid player and while he would not yank us forward, I think he might nudge us there. Baby steps and all that. He is also only 6 odd months older than Couts, I believe.

By any chance, did you happen to play baseball for your school and grow-up on two rivers?
- Bendecko

Watched 1 min of that video. Got the drift.

I was not good enough to pay baseball for my school. But there were rivers near my house, and I did play catcher in middle school.

Does that count?

I honestly thought my sarcasm was funny. I guess I was misguided.

Speaking of bong, I went to school in Oregon, and umm, spent most of my college days stoned or worse. I used to listen to Pink Floyd and would cover my head with a blanket and smoke under there, so that none of the fumes would escape my ravenous nostrils.


- PT21

This is 100% fiction.

That debate was truly ridiculous.
- landros 2

As an American, as a businessman in real life who advises a hedge fund, and someone who has been spent most of my life surrounded by, and contributing to, the idealism of academia (I have been affiliated to Penn for decades now), and someone for whom social struggles are intensely personal, it was tremendously spiritually depressing, quite apart from being aghast at the spectacle. I had trouble sleeping last night.

A serving American President repeatedly impugned a long established form of democracy (mail-in ballots), asked his supporters to enter polling stations (where they are not allowed without prior arrangements and county consent), told a white supremacy group "to stand back and stand by", refused to accept results unless they were consistent in allaying his phantom fears, and showed deep contempt for the institution of debate itself by hectoring, interrupting, being irrelevantly personal and nasty and behaving, in general, like one of the unhinged autocrats in the kind of "poophole" country that he does not want immigrants to come from.

The issue is not just the man itself. The blood that flows in his veins is the blood of trash. I knew that before he took office. The issue is the splatter of that blood in the trashing of all norms, all institutions, from the man who is supposed to lead them. It is as though the Pope delivered a 1.5 hour sermon on the joys of pedophilia.

In saying such things in a forum that is certainly devoted to other pursuits, I have to confess to feeling a certain bewilderment at the antipathy of those who reprimand me for talking about "politics."

I began my career working as a lecturer where my primary role was to assists senior faculty in preparation of graduate courses. One of the people I worked for went on to become a household name, a Republican, who was one of the kindest and most decent men I have ever met. I have voted for Packwood and Specter, two former US senators. I known many colleagues and friends, many highly successful people in business and academia and public life who are Republicans. None of them are anything less than appalled at the behavior of the dude at the helm.

There is nothing in my vehemence that has anything to do with Republican ideology. This President has drawn more disgust from his side of the aisle and from high ups in every sphere of public life than the last 10 Presidents combined. They have chosen to speak out and speak up in ways that are often in contradiction to the way their current roles dictate. In other words, they have broken the precise taboos that I am accused of breaking here (by inconsequential blithering nincompoops like Tomahawk and his ilk), in far more consequential forums. McCarthyism ended, in part, when a lawyer used un-lawyerly language and spoke out of turn: "have you left no sense of decency, sir?"

When will some people realize that those who tend to their gardens, those who use the manure to fertilize and overlook the stench, are just as much taking a stance as guys like myself? That it might be implicit, but it is still complicit? That those who insist on breaking the taboos suddenly, after twelve prior years of 'political circumspection', may be motivated by outrage more than rabble-rousing desires?

Based on what Rantanen got, I assume Laine will ask for 7.5-8m. Konecny is signed for a while for 5.5m. So, you have to also consider whether those 10 extra goals and 10 less assists are worth 2.5m + all the other assets already discussed.
- PT21

Your assumption is low by at least 1M.

As an American, as a businessman in real life who advises a hedge fund, and someone who has been spent most of my life surrounded by, and contributing to, the idealism of academia (I have been affiliated to Penn for decades now), and someone for whom social struggles are intensely personal, it was tremendously spiritually depressing, quite apart from being aghast at the spectacle. I had trouble sleeping last night.

A serving American President repeatedly impugned a long established form of democracy (mail-in ballots), asked his supporters to enter polling stations (where they are not allowed without prior arrangements and county consent), told a white supremacy group "to stand back and stand by", refused to accept results unless they were consistent in allaying his phantom fears, and showed deep contempt for the institution of debate itself by hectoring, interrupting, being irrelevantly personal and nasty and behaving, in general, like one of the unhinged autocrats in the kind of "poophole" country that he does not want immigrants to come from.

The issue is not just the man itself. The blood that flows in his veins is the blood of trash. I knew that before he took office. The issue is the splatter of that blood in the trashing of all norms, all institutions, from the man who is supposed to lead them. It is as though the Pope delivered a 1.5 hour sermon on the joys of pedophilia.

In saying such things in a forum that is certainly devoted to other pursuits, I have to confess to feeling a certain bewilderment at the antipathy of those who reprimand me for talking about "politics."

I began my career working as a lecturer where my primary role was to assists senior faculty in preparation of graduate courses. One of the people I worked for went on to become a household name, a Republican, who was one of the kindest and most decent men I have ever met. I have voted for Packwood and Specter, two former US senators. I known many colleagues and friends, many highly successful people in business and academia and public life who are Republicans. None of them are anything less than appalled at the behavior of the dude at the helm.

There is nothing in my vehemence that has anything to do with Republican ideology. This President has drawn more disgust from his side of the aisle and from high ups in every sphere of public life than the last 10 Presidents combined. They have chosen to speak out and speak up in ways that are often in contradiction to the way their current roles dictate. In other words, they have broken the precise taboos that I am accused of breaking here (by inconsequential blithering nincompoops like Tomahawk and his ilk), in far more consequential forums. McCarthyism ended, in part, when a lawyer used un-lawyerly language and spoke out of turn: "have you left no sense of decency, sir?"

When will some people realize that those who tend to their gardens, those who use the manure to fertilize and overlook the stench, are just as much taking a stance as guys like myself? That it might be implicit, but it is still complicit? That those who insist on breaking the taboos suddenly, after twelve prior years of 'political circumspection', may be motivated by outrage more than rabble-rousing desires?
- PT21

Have you read anyone else in this thread making long winded posts about politics. I'll go out on a limb and state that nobody gives a rats ass about your indoctrinated ideas and thoughts on politics.

Based on what Rantanen got, I assume Laine will ask for 7.5-8m. Konecny is signed for a while for 5.5m. So, you have to also consider whether those 10 extra goals and 10 less assists are worth 2.5m + all the other assets already discussed.
- PT21

They aren’t imo. Tk may very well be a thirty goal scorer in the future for years. And is a better passer. Yes laine can shoot but I don’t want a selfish player. At his age and size i question why they would be willing to trade him.

They aren’t imo. Tk may very well be a thirty goal scorer in the future for years. And is a better passer. Yes laine can shoot but I don’t want a selfish player. At his age and size i question why they would be willing to trade him.
- Peter Richards

I would say it's a combination of character and that he's overrated as a player for the contract that he is going to command. Someone is going to pay him. I pray it's not the Flyers.

As an American, as a businessman in real life who advises a hedge fund, and someone who has been spent most of my life surrounded by, and contributing to, the idealism of academia (I have been affiliated to Penn for decades now), and someone for whom social struggles are intensely personal, it was tremendously spiritually depressing, quite apart from being aghast at the spectacle. I had trouble sleeping last night.

A serving American President repeatedly impugned a long established form of democracy (mail-in ballots), asked his supporters to enter polling stations (where they are not allowed without prior arrangements and county consent), told a white supremacy group "to stand back and stand by", refused to accept results unless they were consistent in allaying his phantom fears, and showed deep contempt for the institution of debate itself by hectoring, interrupting, being irrelevantly personal and nasty and behaving, in general, like one of the unhinged autocrats in the kind of "poophole" country that he does not want immigrants to come from.

The issue is not just the man itself. The blood that flows in his veins is the blood of trash. I knew that before he took office. The issue is the splatter of that blood in the trashing of all norms, all institutions, from the man who is supposed to lead them. It is as though the Pope delivered a 1.5 hour sermon on the joys of pedophilia.

In saying such things in a forum that is certainly devoted to other pursuits, I have to confess to feeling a certain bewilderment at the antipathy of those who reprimand me for talking about "politics."

I began my career working as a lecturer where my primary role was to assists senior faculty in preparation of graduate courses. One of the people I worked for went on to become a household name, a Republican, who was one of the kindest and most decent men I have ever met. I have voted for Packwood and Specter, two former US senators. I known many colleagues and friends, many highly successful people in business and academia and public life who are Republicans. None of them are anything less than appalled at the behavior of the dude at the helm.

There is nothing in my vehemence that has anything to do with Republican ideology. This President has drawn more disgust from his side of the aisle and from high ups in every sphere of public life than the last 10 Presidents combined. They have chosen to speak out and speak up in ways that are often in contradiction to the way their current roles dictate. In other words, they have broken the precise taboos that I am accused of breaking here (by inconsequential blithering nincompoops like Tomahawk and his ilk), in far more consequential forums. McCarthyism ended, in part, when a lawyer used un-lawyerly language and spoke out of turn: "have you left no sense of decency, sir?"

When will some people realize that those who tend to their gardens, those who use the manure to fertilize and overlook the stench, are just as much taking a stance as guys like myself? That it might be implicit, but it is still complicit? That those who insist on breaking the taboos suddenly, after twelve prior years of 'political circumspection', may be motivated by outrage more than rabble-rousing desires?
- PT21

Trump 2020 we the people

Did I just see video of Stamkos vaping on a boat with the cup?