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SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 3:21 PM ET
Don't care if they could get him. The rumored assets it would take to land Laine, along with what his next contract will probably look like, make me not want to touch it.
- Ftown19125

Details please. What would it take to get a 40 goal scorer in a trade and sign?
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 30 @ 3:29 PM ET
Details please. What would it take to get a 40 goal scorer in a trade and sign?
- SuperSchennBros


I dont think Laine will end up being dealt. I think his price tag is going to be higher than what ppl expect.

I would take a flyer on B.Ryan if the price is right. He looked good after returning from his leave.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Sep 30 @ 3:30 PM ET
I mentioned a PTO last week, I like the idea but I think Ryan finds a contract but at 33 you never can tell
- wcorvette

Hey Joe Pavelski could find a team at 36
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Sep 30 @ 3:30 PM ET
Details please. What would it take to get a 40 goal scorer in a trade and sign?
- SuperSchennBros


SSB, I like the idea of a sniper like Laine on the Flyers but, like everything else, what's the price in current assets and the cost of the contract in a locked cap environment going forward? I think it may be too high on both sides of that question. Why else would WPG be interested in moving a 40+ goal player?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 3:31 PM ET
I dont think Laine will end up being dealt. I think his price tag is going to be higher than what ppl expect.

I would take a flyer on B.Ryan if the price is right. He looked good after returning from his leave.

- xShoot4WarAmpsx

You didn’t answer my question.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 30 @ 3:31 PM ET
Rangers are going after Adrian Peterson?
- SuperSchennBros


He is a tremendous athlete. But no Pietrangelo is who I meant.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 30 @ 3:36 PM ET
Details please. What would it take to get a 40 goal scorer in a trade and sign?
- SuperSchennBros


I think it was 2 firsts and a top 4 D or a 1st and a top 2 D or something like that. I think I may have read a 1st, a good prospect, and a top 4 D somewhere possibly as well.

In my opinion, I'd rather not give up those assets and then have to sign him for 9-10 million after next season.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 3:37 PM ET
SSB, I like the idea of a sniper like Laine on the Flyers but, like everything else, what's the price in current assets and the cost of the contract in a locked cap environment going forward? I think it may be too high on both sides of that question. Why else would WPG be interested in moving a 40+ goal player?
- Letterkenney


Ok....

Ftown just implied it will cost a lot to trade for Laine and a lot to sign him, as if he heard something. So my question became, what did he hear?

Realistically, no price with surprises me. If some of you were fine with signing Kevin Hayes at 7.14 million at age 27 and only posting 45-55 points a season, obviously a 22 year old 40 goal scorer is gonna cost a lot more. Really think about this. 55 points is Hayes is ceiling. 40 plus goals is what Laine has done so far and could potentially go up.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Sep 30 @ 3:43 PM ET
You didn’t answer my question.
- SuperSchennBros


Price would likely be 2C and/or top 4 pick and a pick or 2.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
Ok....

Ftown just implied it will cost a lot to trade for Laine and a lot to sign him, as if he heard something. So my question became, what did he hear?

Realistically, no price with surprises me. If some of you were fine with signing Kevin Hayes at 7.14 million at age 27 and only posting 45-55 points a season, obviously a 22 year old 40 goal scorer is gonna cost a lot more. Really think about this. 55 points is Hayes is ceiling. 40 plus goals is what Laine has done so far and could potentially go up.

- SuperSchennBros


Fair point, but a big part of the reason Hayes price tag was as high as it is is because of what he does on the defensive side as well. Most people also thought the Flyers overpaid him.
SuperSchennBros
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Sep 30 @ 3:44 PM ET
I think it was 2 firsts and a top 4 D or a 1st and a top 2 D or something like that. I think I may have read a 1st, a good prospect, and a top 4 D somewhere possibly as well.

In my opinion, I'd rather not give up those assets and then have to sign him for 9-10 million after next season.

- Ftown19125

Ok. When I look back at what it took to get Chris Pronger. Joffery Lupul who was in his mid 20’s and a 20 goal scorer. Luca Sbisa who was one year out of his after and coming out of the first round at 19. Plus two first round picks. The Flyers willingly gave this to the Ducks for Pronger who was 35 at the time. I think that asking price for Laine is nothing more than fair.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
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Sep 30 @ 3:46 PM ET
Price would likely be 2C and/or top 4 pick and a pick or 2.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Likely be based on what?

Ftown and I most be reading the same reports because I heard the exact report ftown just presented to me.
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Sep 30 @ 3:51 PM ET
Flyersfeed

Flyers linked to Laine as of 4 minutes ago
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Sep 30 @ 3:52 PM ET
He is a tremendous athlete. But no Pietrangelo is who I meant.
- mickel25


Probably should have spelled that out in the first place. Because my first thought was that you were referring to Panarin. And I was puzzled as to why you thought they'd have to go after him when he's already on the team...
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Sep 30 @ 3:55 PM ET
Flyersfeed

Flyers linked to Laine as of 4 minutes ago

- SuperSchennBros


I would bet they only got this “link” because Elliot Friedman said in his 31 thoughts:

“ There’s a legit chance it happens. Columbus, hoping to make a major move, is in there, but is there a match? Same with Carolina. Two teams that could do it: Los Angeles and Philadelphia. I’m just not sure they would. I also wonder about the Islanders. It’s the kind of stealth move Lou Lamoriello would love. But they’ve got cap issues and it’s not like he’d give us a hint.”
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 3:56 PM ET
Speaking of goalies - we are now halfway through paying Ilya Bryzgalov. Only 7 more years.
- atibus



But won't the AMac and Gudas buyouts/cap retentions come off soon?
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 3:57 PM ET
Rangers are going after Adrian Peterson?
- SuperSchennBros


Buying out one washed up dude for another.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 4:00 PM ET
PT, I think you may have been hitting the bong a bit early today.... just sayin
- Letterkenney





I honestly thought my sarcasm was funny. I guess I was misguided.

Speaking of bong, I went to school in Oregon, and umm, spent most of my college days stoned or worse. I used to listen to Pink Floyd and would cover my head with a blanket and smoke under there, so that none of the fumes would escape my ravenous nostrils.

But since then, it's a rare occurrence that does not include today. My primary affliction today is the brain bleed from having to watch the 'debate' last night.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 4:01 PM ET
Ok. When I look back at what it took to get Chris Pronger. Joffery Lupul who was in his mid 20’s and a 20 goal scorer. Luca Sbisa who was one year out of his after and coming out of the first round at 19. Plus two first round picks. The Flyers willingly gave this to the Ducks for Pronger who was 35 at the time. I think that asking price for Laine is nothing more than fair.
- SuperSchennBros


Well, to be fair, Pronger was already then a sure fire HOFer and still playing at a very high level.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 4:03 PM ET
Speaking on behalf of the board: you should both leave.
- Tomahawk





You sound like a girl I used to know in high school.

But why? why?

All taken in good spirit. I am a hyper-competitive, very opinionated, sharp-tongued dude, but I always like to consider all povs and I am not being antagonistic here.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 4:04 PM ET
Likely be based on what?

Ftown and I most be reading the same reports because I heard the exact report ftown just presented to me.

- SuperSchennBros

I’m all in on Laine, what would be your trade to WPG? I had suggested two firsts in the upcoming drafts along with Laughton and Ghost. Laine still needs to be signed .
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Sep 30 @ 4:06 PM ET
Why isn't anyone mentioning Toffoli? He is a good two way player, steady, dependable. Not very flashy and not high-end, but would add stability and skill to any line he plays on.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Sep 30 @ 4:08 PM ET
I’m all in on Laine, what would be your trade to WPG? I had suggested two firsts in the upcoming drafts along with Laughton and Ghost. Laine still needs to be signed .
- ClaudeFather


you think that gets it done though? I don't really think so. Also in the next couple years coots' deal is up, so they have to re-sign him. try to work out a long term deal with hart as well. Giroux's deal is up too, so some cap relief there, but do they sign him to another deal?

i don't know if i like the cap implications it could have. i'm not poopting on laine, i just don't know if he's worth what the flyers would need to give up, along with paying him what he's going to want to get paid going forward.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Sep 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Speaking on behalf of the board: you should both leave.
- Tomahawk

Lmao
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Sep 30 @ 4:10 PM ET
Probably should have spelled that out in the first place. Because my first thought was that you were referring to Panarin. And I was puzzled as to why you thought they'd have to go after him when he's already on the team...

- Bendecko


Pietrangelo is a really long name. But you are right I should have just typed it out originally. I've had to type out twice since to explain myself. Saving time is always a delicate balance.
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