Ugh.
No.
- Fakepartofme

Wasn’t a suggestion. He just said somebody who would surprise us.

He's already been bought out according to Cap Friendly, and that $23 million is for 13 signed players, need to add 13 more say including Georgiev (RFA), DeAngelo (RFA) and maybe Strome (RFA) even if those three cost only $11 million (it is probabably more) that leaves them $12 million for 10 roster spots. That's as tight as a bull's ass at fly time.
- winsix

13 more? what is this the NFL?

Look at CF and map them out. They've got all their big guys locked up except AD and RS. Hell, they could walk from Strome if he's looking for too much - he's not that good. But 23 million ...sign those 3 for 11 ....leaves you 12 million for 5-6 more roster spots (A roster is 20 plus 1-3). Those spots are 4th liners and bottom extras.

They need a top 4 LHD for sure. They'll be in the mix. They've got lots of cap space and have lots of good young contracts to make some moves if they want.

The only guys that "might" be options on the UFA market would be Crawford, Khudobin and Talbot.

Crawford sounds like he's angling to stay in Chicago. Khudobin probably stays in Dallas now and/or might have earned something to close 5 to make it worthwhile anymore. Talbot had a good regular season but he's always a riddle. Maybe if he wanted to come and the savings were big enough you'd consider that.

And it's hard to tell if there's anything that fits the need on the trade market. Georgiev likely stays in NY. Korpisalo would fit but CLB doesn't have to move him and his value is probably inflated right now. Demko? Small sample size and the price might be really high even if the Nucks went that way.

The easiest route still seems to be to move Johnsson out and Robertson in and then sign a 4-5 milly UFA D and a couple of depth vets.
- The Law

I confess I didn't watch him play a game last year (unless he got the start against the Leafs), but his numbers look good.

If I'm a guy looking to grab a 1 year deal, I'm going to try my best to stay in the city where I already have a house and my kids are set. Next year is going to be so franked up, you don't want to pull your kids out of school in January (or later) - for that and 100 other reasons, you'd want to stay put.

I'll be right furious if we trade our (Pitts)first rounder.. We need cheap young talent in the cupboards and in the system.
- systemtool

Agree, Leafs should add more, Move Andersen for picks and get a goalie for $3 - $4 Million. In this draft I'd like to see them move up not down.

I was throwing out some names that would be a surprise if Dubas acquired them.. MAF as a UFA or even at 50% retained would be fine with me..

MAF at $3.5M would be a good add.
- PatC80

I'd take that.
MAF at 3.5 for two years.
Done.
Send a 4th rounder to Pitts, lets do it.

Agree, Leafs should add more, Move Andersen for picks and get a goalie for $3 - $4 Million. In this draft I'd like to see them move up not down.
- winsix

Yup...enough with moving down in the draft.
Keep 15 or move up.

However, moving up will cost quite a bit.

Hank is 38 years old. Ed Belfour was 37 when he signed with the Leafs. Just sayin'.
- gergeswillems

The hair controversy would tear the team apart.

I confess I didn't watch him play a game last year (unless he got the start against the Leafs), but his numbers look good.

If I'm a guy looking to grab a 1 year deal, I'm going to try my best to stay in the city where I already have a house and my kids are set. Next year is going to be so franked up, you don't want to pull your kids out of school in January (or later) - for that an 100 other reasons, you'd want to stay put.
- Atomic Wedgie

Ya, factor in that salaries are going to be cut by escrow and deferral and everything points to guys like that staying put.

Not sure about that.
But they definitely have 1 cup because of him (08/09). Not just because of him, but he played a big part.
- Fakepartofme

Everyone recalls MAF's save on Lidstrom in game 7 of the 2009 SCF. But the main reason why Pittsburgh beat Detroit that year was Malkin. Zetterberg shut down Sid 2 years in a row in the SCF. Malkin really was the Man in 2009. Plus the Wings had no answer for Jordan Staal as the Pens 3C. MAF was decent but Osgood actually outplayed him up until game 7.

Wasn’t a suggestion. He just said somebody who would surprise us.
- Canada Cup

no surprises like that.

13 more? what is this the NFL?

Look at CF and map them out. They've got all their big guys locked up except AD and RS. Hell, they could walk from Strome if he's looking for too much - he's not that good. But 23 million ...sign those 3 for 11 ....leaves you 12 million for 5-6 more roster spots (A roster is 20 plus 1-3). Those spots are 4th liners and bottom extras.

They need a top 4 LHD for sure. They'll be in the mix. They've got lots of cap space and have lots of good young contracts to make some moves if they want.
- The Law

Taking a quick peek on CapFriendly, they have major pain coming next year.

Regarding MAF, Rinosaur in the main thread had a good point a couple of days ago:

Vegas might be better off trading him for a 7th round pick and retaining half his salary than buying him out.

If they buy him out, here's his cap hit for the next four years:

$2,583,333
$3,083,333
$2,083,333
$2,083,333

Would you rather take a $3.5M cap hit for two years and then wash your hands of him?

And would the Leafs be interested in him for two years at $3.5M?
- Atomic Wedgie

Yes, I would take him at 3.5M for 2 years

Everyone recalls MAF's save on Lidstrom in game 7 of the 2009 SCF. But the main reason why Pittsburgh beat Detroit that year was Malkin. Zetterberg shut down Sid 2 years in a row in the SCF. Malkin really was the Man in 2009. Plus the Wings had no answer for Jordan Staal as the Pens 3C. MAF was decent but Osgood actually outplayed him up until game 7.
- gergeswillems

He still played well and was one of the reasons (not the only) they won.

Why do i want Soup now.

Perhaps that will be enough for the 1st trade proposal but I'm not sure it gets it done
- dmnted

Is this a realistic return for Demko? I'm thinking no

I'll be right furious if we trade our (Pitts)first rounder.. We need cheap young talent in the cupboards and in the system.
- systemtool

not sure if Dubas is willign to take a gamble on Braden Schneider - a Brandon Carlo type of player..? seems like an obvious fit for the Leafs, but it all obviously depends on how Leafs have their own rankings; might be an off-the boards pick

13 more? what is this the NFL?

Look at CF and map them out. They've got all their big guys locked up except AD and RS. Hell, they could walk from Strome if he's looking for too much - he's not that good. But 23 million ...sign those 3 for 11 ....leaves you 12 million for 5-6 more roster spots (A roster is 20 plus 1-3). Those spots are 4th liners and bottom extras.

They need a top 4 LHD for sure. They'll be in the mix. They've got lots of cap space and have lots of good young contracts to make some moves if they want.
- The Law

Let's go with 23 man roster, if they have 16 signed, it leaves 7 spots to fill with $12 Million. Add one "middle of the road" d-man for $3.5 Million leaves you $8.5 million for 6 spots. Where is "something big" coming from - especially when you consider that their top goalie will be an RFA next year along with 6 more RFA's

Regarding MAF, Rinosaur in the main thread had a good point a couple of days ago:

Vegas might be better off trading him for a 7th round pick and retaining half his salary than buying him out.

If they buy him out, here's his cap hit for the next four years:

$2,583,333
$3,083,333
$2,083,333
$2,083,333

Would you rather take a $3.5M cap hit for two years and then wash your hands of him?

And would the Leafs be interested in him for two years at $3.5M?
- Atomic Wedgie

It would fit their need (assuming he's equivalent to Freddy).

In a perfect world they find an inexpensive goalie for the next two years for the flat cap. Put those savings (and the Johnsson savings) into the blue line and some raises for the young guys. They're also staring down a request for a raise from Hyman next summer.

I think it's a two year plan. The summer of 2022 is probably too hard to plan for given all the question marks about salary caps and Seattle.

Would you trade the Leafs first rounder in a package to get Ekblad?
- gergeswillems

Ehh..maybe.

Ehh..maybe.
- systemtool

I don't recommend it.

He's not that good.

Taking a quick peek on CapFriendly, they have major pain coming next year.
- Atomic Wedgie

and the year after Kakko plus Zbanejad and the one following Lafreniere - they'll be juggling for sure.

Interesting tweet from a Queen's Park reporter:

Laura Stone
@l_stone
Replying to
@l_stone
On ICU capacity, if we stay under 150 cases, hospitals can operate normally. Between 150-350, system becomes "strained." Post 350 - "It becomes impossible." #onpoli
10:13 AM · Sep 30, 2020·Twitter Web App

I don't recommend it.

He's not that good.
- BINGO!

Way over paid.

first trade: willie to edmonton for Larsson (leafs save 4 mil)

second trade: anderson to whoever and pick up King Henry for a million or go with another buyout for the same (leafs again have another 3-4 million from Anderson's contract)

Try and sign Luke Shen #5-6 (stay at home with grit)

reach out to sign goudas

Leafs now have three new defecemen (move or send to minors there 5,6,7 defencemen)

this provide the leafs with 7-8 million more to spend defence and maybe on trevor lewis

Stamkos and a third rounder to New Jersey for a 5th rounder (all about money)

i don't believe ap's rights will be traded. Of anything, it will be a sign and trade to get that extra year.
- Fakepartofme

Don't think that's possible. I believe the player had to be in the lineup the end of the previous year to get that 8th year.
I could be wrong though.

Yup...enough with moving down in the draft.
Keep 15 or move up.

However, moving up will cost quite a bit.
- Fakepartofme

If Askarov is as good as some say, Leafs should go for it. Montreal can be competetive with Price and a bunch of fourth liners