PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Mirtle has a good article on all the guys the Leafs could consider moving.
Most of the evaluations end with " but unless you can find a guy who is better, who will make less, it's unlikely he will be moved." - Atomic Wedgie
I think this year, there are better options then Andersen, that do make less cap-wise.. So, this would be the time..
Also, Johnsson's production can be replaced for a cheaper contract. |
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The Law
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If you'd let Mickey go at the tdl, I would've made it happen... - 21peter
Rangers could do some big things.
Lots of cap space, lots of young cheap talent, and they need a couple of big ticket items. They probably need to move some pieces before the expansion draft too.
Could see them go after Krug and a top 6 centre. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I think this year, there are better options then Andersen, that do make less cap-wise.. So, this would be the time..
Also, Johnsson's production can be replaced for a cheaper contract. - PatC80
If I had to bet a beer and a plate of nachos, I'd say Johnsson will be traded.
I'm far less confident about Andersen being traded.
I doubt you get much in assets for him, and then you need to find a guy who costs less than $5M and can perform at the same level or above. There isn't that guy in the UFA market, so you need to give up assets to obtain him. And he'll probably have a bigger cap hit than $5M.
From that perspective, Andersen is a Leaf next year.
JMHO. |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Rangers could do some big things.
Lots of cap space, lots of young cheap talent, and they need a couple of big ticket items. They probably need to move some pieces before the expansion draft too.
Could see them go after Krug and a top 6 centre. - The Law
I am confident that instead of taking a slow, steady approach to rebuilding, the Rangers will have bought "The Idiot's Guide to Ruining the Rebuild by Loading Up Too Fast" by Brian Burke. |
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If I had to bet a beer and a plate of nachos, I'd say Johnsson will be traded.
I'm far less confident about Andersen being traded.
I doubt you get much in assets for him, and then you need to find a guy who costs less than $5M and can perform at the same level or above. There isn't that guy in the UFA market, so you need to give up assets to obtain him. And he'll probably have a bigger cap hit than $5M.
From that perspective, Andersen is a Leaf next year.
JMHO. - Atomic Wedgie
I wonder if Holtby would be interested in a 5y x 5.5-6mlnAAV deal.
I've always liked Holtby, and from the Leafs perspective, that should be considered as an upgrade over Andersen.
Not sure if the goalie market right now is such that Holtby is able to demand a better contract.. |
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Canada Cup
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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If I had to bet a beer and a plate of nachos, I'd say Johnsson will be traded.
I'm far less confident about Andersen being traded.
I doubt you get much in assets for him, and then you need to find a guy who costs less than $5M and can perform at the same level or above. There isn't that guy in the UFA market, so you need to give up assets to obtain him. And he'll probably have a bigger cap hit than $5M.
From that perspective, Andersen is a Leaf next year.
JMHO. - Atomic Wedgie
Just finished my second plate of nachos so I’m willing to say that Johnsson gets traded. Based on Mirtle’s “yeah but” I agree that Freddy is trickier. Here’s the deal though, unless they know they’re keeping him past next year or that they have a starter in the system, they pretty much need to go shopping this year when the market works in their favour. Still tricky, but they might be in a corner. |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Why "hell no" on AP (the rights to) and Barbashev? Barb would be fantastic for 3C.
I mean, obviously the Leafs would need to make a trade to backfill Andy (e.g. the aforementioned Demko), but I don't think that's such a bad deal to make. - mjones242
Because it is an overpay. Johnsson, while he was hurt last year is a good player, and then we are trading away another assets for rights and a 3C who had 26 points last year . Also, Barb is an RFA after next year.
Doesnt seem great to me. |
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Rangers could do some big things.
Lots of cap space, lots of young cheap talent, and they need a couple of big ticket items. They probably need to move some pieces before the expansion draft too.
Could see them go after Krug and a top 6 centre. - The Law
Hall/Krug?
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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If I had to bet a beer and a plate of nachos, I'd say Johnsson will be traded.
I'm far less confident about Andersen being traded.
I doubt you get much in assets for him, and then you need to find a guy who costs less than $5M and can perform at the same level or above. There isn't that guy in the UFA market, so you need to give up assets to obtain him. And he'll probably have a bigger cap hit than $5M.
From that perspective, Andersen is a Leaf next year.
JMHO. - Atomic Wedgie
I agree.. I think Johnsson will be moved. I still have a feeling that Andersen will be dealt as well. I could see the Leafs going after a cheaper UFA goalie like Greiss or trade for a goalie that surprises most of us
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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I agree.. I think Johnsson will be moved. I still have a feeling that Andersen will be dealt as well. I could see the Leafs going after a cheaper UFA goalie like Greiss or trade for a goalie that surprises most of us - PatC80
Reimer? |
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Atomic Wedgie
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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I agree.. I think Johnsson will be moved. I still have a feeling that Andersen will be dealt as well. I could see the Leafs going after a cheaper UFA goalie like Greiss or trade for a goalie that surprises most of us - PatC80
If I'm the GM, I'm waiting to see what 2020-21 looks like.
If it's 82 games, you probably have different goalie needs than if it is 48 games.
Quick question: how done is Lundqvist? In an "oh my God, I can't believe we are actually attempting this" scenario, could you go with him and Campbell for a shortened season? |
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TheMussel
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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If I'm the GM, I'm waiting to see what 2020-21 looks like.
If it's 82 games, you probably have different goalie needs than if it is 48 games.
Quick question: how done is Lundqvist? In an "oh my God, I can't believe we are actually attempting this" scenario, could you go with him and Campbell for a shortened season? - Atomic Wedgie
It's been awhile since an over the hill star player has signed with the Leafs to enact the swansong of their career. I say we go for it. |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Reimer? - Canada Cup
I hope not.
Maybe like a Quick, MAF, Grubauer, Jones, Varlamov or Rittich? |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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It's been awhile since an over the hill star player has signed with the Leafs to enact the swansong of their career. I say we go for it. - TheMussel
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I very much hope that the few people left that still inexplicably supported Montoya are done with that now. - GreatGigInTheSky
It wasn't montoyas decision, it was the game plan from the analytics geeks.
Had the jays actually been able to hit the ball and not swing at every pitch, it looked like it could have worked.
They only allowed 3 runs, one of which was an error. |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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If I had to bet a beer and a plate of nachos, I'd say Johnsson will be traded.
I'm far less confident about Andersen being traded.
I doubt you get much in assets for him, and then you need to find a guy who costs less than $5M and can perform at the same level or above. There isn't that guy in the UFA market, so you need to give up assets to obtain him. And he'll probably have a bigger cap hit than $5M.
From that perspective, Andersen is a Leaf next year.
JMHO. - Atomic Wedgie
The only guys that "might" be options on the UFA market would be Crawford, Khudobin and Talbot.
Crawford sounds like he's angling to stay in Chicago. Khudobin probably stays in Dallas now and/or might have earned something to close 5 to make it worthwhile anymore. Talbot had a good regular season but he's always a riddle. Maybe if he wanted to come and the savings were big enough you'd consider that.
And it's hard to tell if there's anything that fits the need on the trade market. Georgiev likely stays in NY. Korpisalo would fit but CLB doesn't have to move him and his value is probably inflated right now. Demko? Small sample size and the price might be really high even if the Nucks went that way.
The easiest route still seems to be to move Johnsson out and Robertson in and then sign a 4-5 milly UFA D and a couple of depth vets. |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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I think this year, there are better options then Andersen, that do make less cap-wise.. So, this would be the time..
Also, Johnsson's production can be replaced for a cheaper contract. - PatC80
who is better than andersen and cheaper....that is available? |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Rangers could do some big things.
Lots of cap space, lots of young cheap talent, and they need a couple of big ticket items. They probably need to move some pieces before the expansion draft too.
Could see them go after Krug and a top 6 centre. - The Law
Pietrangelo
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bixll
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Location: New Glasgow, NS Joined: 09.04.2008
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I hope not.
Maybe like a Quick, MAF, Grubauer, Jones, Varlamov or Rittich? - PatC80
MAF, OMFG. He has a 7 mill cap hit. And, he just lost his starting job on his second Cup contending team. I see a pattern. Pass. JMO |
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Fakepartofme
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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Reimer? - Canada Cup
Ugh.
No. |
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The Law
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Joined: 01.29.2008
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who is better than andersen and cheaper....that is available? - Fakepartofme
The same'ish and cheaper is the need. Better and cheaper would be a bonus. |
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The Law
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Pietrangelo - Fakepartofme
I think Krug might be their guy. Or maybe they take a swing at OEL. |
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winsix
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Rangers could do some big things.
Lots of cap space, lots of young cheap talent, and they need a couple of big ticket items. They probably need to move some pieces before the expansion draft too.
Could see them go after Krug and a top 6 centre. - The Law
They bought out Lundqvist and have about $13 Million in dead salary cap plus they have some RFA's to sign. Doubt they will be doing anything too big.
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Pietrangelo - Fakepartofme
Not sure he fits their timeline, but I guess you never know.
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Archaic
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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MAF, OMFG. He has a 7 mill cap hit. And, he just lost his starting job on his second Cup contending team. I see a pattern. Pass. JMO - bixll
Some have mentioned him as possibly getting bought out. |
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